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uncle ray

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18. i doubt he has info big enough that he can share to get his ass out of this sling.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 02:05 PM
Oct 2017

yes, Mueller has precedents on how he has won in the past, but as we all know, this situation has no precedent.

what info and on who could dramatically reduce his potential sentence? i expect his buddies: Cohn, Stone, Etc. all were just as bad at covering up their crimes as Manafort was, so sufficient evidence already exists, that along with testimony of lesser targets will easily convict them. trump was surely not the mastermind, so info on him, though possibly damning for trump, is still smaller than Manafort's crimes, whether he has been indicted of them yet or not. he could turn on actual russians, but if he did that i suspect he'd prefer to be in Federal custody than risk the consequences. if he was entertaining the notion of helping the investigation, why did he not act on it before indictments dropped that threaten to take everything he has? i suspect he has tried, and Mueller basically laughed at him.

that's not to say that there are not going to be deals cut. it seems that lots of people have benefited from Manaforts russian money and enormous pressure will be put on them to help build the cases against the other co-conspirators.

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Let's also remember that Manafort was in that June with Russians meeting w/his handy phone. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #1
RUSSIA: The most important part of Paul Manaforts indictment thats gone unnoticed .... L. Coyote Oct 2017 #8
I bet Mueller is just holding 'em cards. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #11
Smart strategy Lotusflower70 Oct 2017 #2
This indicates Manafort was under surveillance before going to work for Trump. Bad news for Donnie. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #6
Yep Lotusflower70 Oct 2017 #7
Well, the FBI has been on this since summer '16, at least... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #14
That's a great point because... PearliePoo2 Oct 2017 #3
Have you paid attention Break time Oct 2017 #4
Because these charges had to be brought now due to statute of limitations. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #5
there will be no light sentence for cooperation. uncle ray Oct 2017 #9
Mueller needs witnesses who can say Trump knew marylandblue Oct 2017 #10
yes, but those witnesses will not include Paul Manafort. uncle ray Oct 2017 #13
Still they will want Manafort to talk marylandblue Oct 2017 #16
i doubt he has info big enough that he can share to get his ass out of this sling. uncle ray Oct 2017 #18
You can't cut a deal until they charge you with a crime marylandblue Oct 2017 #19
The indictments against Manafort and Gates are only one part of the day's news better Oct 2017 #12
I agree this is bigger marylandblue Oct 2017 #17
Papadopoulos plead GUILTY to collusion with Russians re eMails offered to Don Jr. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #15
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