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George II

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124. In a way he's correct.....
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:50 PM
Oct 2017

....I know I don't stay up every day worrying about Russia's interference, but it sure keeps me up many nights, when most of us sleep, worrying about it.

I don't know about him Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2017 #1
Pretty important to me, too. As is women, black, Latino and gays as or MORE important than bread Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #4
I Caught That Too Me. Oct 2017 #126
Well, the lovely Russians bought Facebook ads backing Sanders, Stein and Trump snooper2 Oct 2017 #5
Hmmmm.... come to think of it..... Squinch Oct 2017 #18
The Sanders defender who trashes Clinton and the TheDebbieDee Oct 2017 #71
Oh, that hadn't occurred to me. Good point. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #181
How come I cant say what you just said Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #84
I remember something you said once like that. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #184
Sanders worries me too. Sometimes it seems he takes contrarian stances just to be different brush Oct 2017 #65
Exactly my thoughts. These aren't stand-alone issues, they're all inter-related.... George II Oct 2017 #114
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I'm pretty concerned about it. Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #2
I find it hard to believe he said a lot of this. NCTraveler Oct 2017 #3
Well, him saying essentially we do need to deal with "identity politics"... moriah Oct 2017 #45
Taken out of context, of course. DLevine Oct 2017 #47
"by only focusing on the Russian investigation while Trump pushes his agenda" NCTraveler Oct 2017 #54
He did not attack Democrats. DLevine Oct 2017 #72
He did falsely attack democrats. NCTraveler Oct 2017 #79
Where did I quote anyone? I paraphrased. DLevine Oct 2017 #87
You are more right wrong angrychair Oct 2017 #69
The context was provided to me above. It made it even worse. NCTraveler Oct 2017 #75
I dont know angrychair Oct 2017 #118
From those comments, he seems to be out of touch with the average American and.... George II Oct 2017 #120
I will never understand... NCTraveler Oct 2017 #121
It absolutely needs to be dealt with. It is not our biggest issue. Corporate meddling in our JCanete Nov 2017 #236
"Corporate meddling in our elections" came about because of republicans being elected and... George II Nov 2017 #256
exposure does not equate to effectiveness, for starters. And corporations aren't exactly beholden to JCanete Nov 2017 #269
"Russia didn't bring us Trump," We need to stop this irresponsible denial of reality. R B Garr Nov 2017 #278
what the fuck do you think CNN and Fox news and most corporate media has been doing? So JCanete Nov 2017 #281
A lot of people don't watch cable news like CNN and Fox, and there has been plenty of R B Garr Nov 2017 #282
"Ordinary Americans" seems to have a very narrow definition. ehrnst Nov 2017 #250
That stood out for me too... Caliman73 Nov 2017 #265
I watched the part of the video. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #187
Whether the average Joe is aware or not, it is that important to our Democracy and Sanders should Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #189
Thanks. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #225
Differentiating the "average American" from female Americans, Americans of color ehrnst Nov 2017 #251
We need to get to washington and protest all night outside white house moda253 Oct 2017 #6
I thought this was Sarah Sanders for a second. joshcryer Oct 2017 #7
I did too. It's a Trumpian talking point. Squinch Oct 2017 #15
I haven't slept well for almost a year. lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #27
We need to make it absolutely clear to them that republicans are robbing them blind and have smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #42
Thank you! Great start on the language: "Republicans are robbing you" lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #56
I think we need to stress that todays Republican Party has been corrupted. Bluepinky Nov 2017 #214
You are right. I am going to change my language. Mediumsizedhand Nov 2017 #215
Wait, so he is calling me a non-American?? malchickiwick Oct 2017 #8
The FUCK WE AIN'T MariaCSR Oct 2017 #9
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I agree with him 100% Ferrets are Cool Oct 2017 #10
According to the article, Bernie never said we have to do both. He never mentioned impeachment. Squinch Oct 2017 #22
Well, he's the senator: HE should be concerned even if the average person is not frazzled Oct 2017 #33
The first thing he said in the interview was how important the Mueller investigation is. nt DLevine Oct 2017 #50
The Mueller investigation can only have significance if the people care about the issue frazzled Oct 2017 #102
I'm guessing the ones who disagree are well fed. Cobalt Violet Oct 2017 #100
I'm guessing the ones who disagree take it seriously when a hostile foreign power puts Squinch Oct 2017 #154
+1 Jamaal510 Nov 2017 #203
We are doing both. If Sanders only wants to focus on one delisen Oct 2017 #119
I truly have no interest in what Sen. Sander says. He is not a Democrat and as another Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #149
I'd say you are both wrong, then. Adrahil Oct 2017 #162
Duh. For people who have to battle just to live, their priorities are different. phleshdef Oct 2017 #11
Trump/Russia is actually going to put millions more people in that category of "people who have to Squinch Oct 2017 #155
It keeps me up at night, too! pandr32 Oct 2017 #12
WTF? Yes, Americans are. A hostile foreign power installed their puppet president to Squinch Oct 2017 #13
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #14
Jesus Christ Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #23
Hes 100% wrong. Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #16
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They had plans Hornedfrog1985 Nov 2017 #231
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Yep Hornedfrog1985 Nov 2017 #233
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Bwahahaha Hornedfrog1985 Nov 2017 #235
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Nah, we're really hoping that billionaires get a tax break. NightWatcher Oct 2017 #17
So, he is sanctioning that the Russian interference continue. Evergreen Emerald Oct 2017 #19
Exactly Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #20
No, he is not sanctioning Russian interference. DLevine Oct 2017 #52
That might be true, but Americans should be focused on Russian interference. Vinca Oct 2017 #21
You have to forgive Senator Sanders..... virtualobserver Oct 2017 #24
We cant win an election in 2018 if our votes dont count, Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #25
"You have to forgive Senator Sanders....." NCTraveler Oct 2017 #28
no, not dismissal..... virtualobserver Oct 2017 #82
Start with the language: "...tried to.."?? Really, isn't it obvious they succeeded? lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #31
It is not obvious. virtualobserver Oct 2017 #58
Russian ads (according to what Facebook ALONE admits to) were shown to 126,000,000 lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #59
"shown" does not translate to "bang" virtualobserver Oct 2017 #66
Are you serious? This is the first you are hearing of bots and fake accounts? lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #70
I understand that they exist..... virtualobserver Oct 2017 #76
The combo of Tweets and FB posts pushed real looking fake stories to the top of google searches to bettyellen Oct 2017 #130
+1, they can't accept any actual reality that does not fit their narrative blaming R B Garr Oct 2017 #99
The $70 million spent by Trump on Facebook was thousands of times more powerful virtualobserver Oct 2017 #186
This is just more excuses and sidestepping reality. R B Garr Nov 2017 #213
What are you talking about? virtualobserver Nov 2017 #217
You are trying to divert away from the reason for the R B Garr Nov 2017 #220
What Russia did does matter, because it was a foreign power trying to interfere with our election.. virtualobserver Nov 2017 #226
No, even his own words dont match what you said. R B Garr Nov 2017 #228
To ignore human rights, women's rights and civil rights mcar Oct 2017 #32
if Trump's performance isn't enough to get out the base.... virtualobserver Oct 2017 #35
Agree mcar Oct 2017 #39
People for whom the economic struggle requires so much attention virtualobserver Oct 2017 #62
But people for whom the struggle for equal rights mcar Oct 2017 #90
they also have ordinary problems, but no, they are not ordinary virtualobserver Oct 2017 #147
The Russians didn't merely "try". They succeeded. N/T lapucelle Oct 2017 #125
Russians influenced the elections is a fact. JI7 Oct 2017 #138
We won't get the results we want bdamomma Oct 2017 #146
Blaming the Russians PDittie Nov 2017 #247
I don't think his advice as to what will win elections is anything that really works. I have worked Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #150
Tell that to President Ford's Second term and the 1974 congressional elections nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #170
basing your entire winning strategy on a Trump resignation is a risky proposition virtualobserver Oct 2017 #174
I'm not basing an entire strategy on that. But it is comforting to know the history. stevenleser Nov 2017 #201
I do worry though virtualobserver Nov 2017 #210
C'mon Bernie, that's what Hillary ran on njhoneybadger Oct 2017 #26
+ a million. Wwcd Oct 2017 #78
Who, exactly, does the Senator define as 'ordinary Americans?' mcar Oct 2017 #29
I'm guessing straight blue collar white men, but I'm just guessing. n/t Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #132
That does seem to be it mcar Oct 2017 #140
Without Russian interference liquid diamond Oct 2017 #30
How far would he have gone in the primaries RandySF Oct 2017 #34
Don't know but those who cost us the elections were knee deep in facebook propaganda. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #151
Yeah, I am. traladeda Oct 2017 #36
Bernie will focus where Bernie wants to focus Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #37
Fuck him! The whole reason we are in this mess in the first place is because smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #38
Isn't the expression, "Staying up all NIGHT" this "staying up all day" makes little sense to me? FreeStateDemocrat Oct 2017 #40
Shut up, Bernie. DavidDvorkin Oct 2017 #41
We really are through the Looking Glass. GoCubsGo Oct 2017 #43
Democrats damn sure better talk about the Russia scandal standingtall Oct 2017 #44
If Trump cheated, then Clinton really won fallrey Oct 2017 #51
+1 lunamagica Nov 2017 #219
Conspiracy/subversion with/by a foreign power influencing sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #85
LMAO. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #46
Sen Sanders,"Do NOT speak for me & I am part of that Democratic Party Wwcd Oct 2017 #48
If "ordinary Americans" aren't women, "Latinos," "blacks," and "people in the gay community," WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #49
IKR !?!?!? People who aren't threatened by Red Dons Kremlin KKKlan can afford to be blase' uponit7771 Oct 2017 #63
White men, of course. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #68
Who's left? Straight white men like me. comradebillyboy Oct 2017 #74
Thank you for saying this. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #88
Wrong Bernie. MontanaMama Oct 2017 #53
No on Russian sanctions. His campaign manager with ties to Manafort tweets there was no collusion, MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #55
Good grief. I thought it was Huckleberry. nolabear Oct 2017 #57
Obviously concerned about what DURHAM D Oct 2017 #60
++++++ infinity MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Oct 2017 #94
Hmmmm...interesting...and so disturbing lunamagica Nov 2017 #222
AH, absolutely! They both should show us their taxes. R B Garr Oct 2017 #116
Follow the money. yardwork Nov 2017 #243
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #280
shit with something this stupid DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #61
don't know about Sen. Sanders, but i for one have lost a lot of sleep over it 0rganism Oct 2017 #64
It's time for one side of the fence or the other Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #67
If they aren't, then it means people like Bernie Sanders are FAILING with their messaging. pnwmom Oct 2017 #73
They're not? Well, they should. He's right on certain points, of course. DFW Oct 2017 #77
He does not speak for many of us. Never has and never will. bluepen Oct 2017 #80
Thank you. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #89
Speak for yourself Bernie nt Progressive dog Oct 2017 #81
Oh my GOD Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #83
My exact reaction, too! R B Garr Oct 2017 #101
He's more or less correct, but... Garrett78 Oct 2017 #86
He didn't dismiss the scandal. The first thing he talked about was the investigation, DLevine Oct 2017 #92
The quote in the OP suggests dismissiveness. Garrett78 Oct 2017 #95
The OP is taking his remarks out of context. DLevine Oct 2017 #111
I can't watch it right now but will try to later. Garrett78 Oct 2017 #115
What you propose is what he did. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #96
I'm not able to watch the video right now, but the quote in the OP suggests otherwise. Garrett78 Oct 2017 #112
The very first word out of his mout are "it's a big deal" -- meaning the investigation/indictment Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #122
ffs, the Democrats are not putting all their eggs in one basket. That was just R B Garr Oct 2017 #123
In a way he's correct..... George II Oct 2017 #124
Americans were not initially "worried" about the Watergate cover-up until the shit hit the fan. FreeStateDemocrat Oct 2017 #91
Well there are about 65 million of us who have been worried about it since Nov. 8th. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #98
Yup, and after that Democrats won the 1974 congressional elections in a landslide and prevented stevenleser Oct 2017 #171
I agree with him. Cobalt Violet Oct 2017 #97
Because people can only be worried about one thing at a time? MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #104
I didn't say that. Cobalt Violet Oct 2017 #106
"I guess if you aren't worried about your next meal it's not going to keep you up at night." MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #109
I worry about all that. But my worry has increased tenfold since the Russian interference in the lunamagica Nov 2017 #223
Arghhhhhhhhh! MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Oct 2017 #105
This American is... Cadfael Oct 2017 #107
legitimate elections are somewhat necessary to fix the other problems, IMO. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #108
How does he know that? Many of the people I know are worried about Russian interference.... George II Oct 2017 #110
I am MaryMagdaline Oct 2017 #113
Me too, welcome to DU grantcart Oct 2017 #129
We are not ordinary, Senator Sanders. delisen Oct 2017 #117
As always, big on talk but short on details.... Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #127
I hope the Republicans don't exploit that sound bite in their 2018 ads. N/T lapucelle Oct 2017 #128
No doubt they will. NurseJackie Oct 2017 #133
The last couple days we got up early to check the news lame54 Oct 2017 #131
They must be smoking some good Covfefe! Initech Oct 2017 #134
These threads have value PDittie Oct 2017 #135
Bernie has grown out of touch, it seems? kentuck Oct 2017 #136
I do not see the Bernie of 2016 posturing for 2020 any differently. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #168
I disagree. Me, ordinary American, I worry about Russian influences on 2016 and future elections. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #137
Wrong. milestogo Oct 2017 #139
Who? ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #141
If your house is overrun with termites destroying your roof and foundation... WePurrsevere Oct 2017 #142
Perfect analogy. Who could argue against that? lunamagica Nov 2017 #224
With all the outrage against Russian interference, why not point more of it at right wingnut diva77 Oct 2017 #143
Well, one could concisely say lapucelle Oct 2017 #183
There are at least 52 Senators who should be a higher priority for receiving diva77 Oct 2017 #191
I wasn't aware that we're required to prioritize our critiques. lapucelle Nov 2017 #196
sigh. JHan Oct 2017 #144
Bernie don't fall for this fallacy please.. people can care about different things simultaneously. JHan Oct 2017 #145
I have to wonder sometimes if he wants Democrats to lose. Anyone who has been observant Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #148
He is posturing for 2020. It behooves us to listen to what he is saying. He has been consistent. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #156
Consistently wrong...he has a particular view point...I agree with much of it... but it simply won't Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #259
Perhaps he was expressing the idea that the literal first priority is to eat guillaumeb Oct 2017 #152
He is talking middle class, that is not what he was talking or it would be the poor and homeless. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #157
We all have the same needs. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #176
Are you sugggesting the middle class has the same needs as the homeless? No, stating. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #177
Are you suggesting that we all do not need to eat? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #178
Two different worlds. I am willing to admit that sitting in my privilege and what makes me a proud Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #180
It's funny how Sen Sanders and his supporters often say things TheDebbieDee Oct 2017 #153
I am seeing some confused thing Sarah Sanders said this. Telling. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #158
You will NEVER create an economy that works for all of us as long as the GOP is in power PERIOD! coolsandy Oct 2017 #159
I do not think they care; with posturing for 2020, that matters. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #161
Fuck him. Russian interference is an existential threat to the Republic. Adrahil Oct 2017 #160
Impeached Trump can't attack the environment, women, or minorities. krispos42 Oct 2017 #163
+1. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #166
He is reminding us that even if the Trump and his administration lands in prison. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #164
And the priority is not women, gays, Latinos and blacks. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #167
That's not what he said, but get your smear on if you wish. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #172
"MORE important." Bread and butter is MORE important than women, blacks, Latinos, Gays losing life. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #175
In the paragraph you provided, he said social justice and economic justice are more important... aikoaiko Oct 2017 #190
Bread and butter is more important than women, blacks, Latino and gays. I disagree. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #192
Do you not think women, blacks, Latinos, and gays are also concerned with economics? aikoaiko Oct 2017 #193
Right now, I am pretty damn sure they are concerned about their lives. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #194
I think the issues of POC and other minorities are more complex than that. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #195
I think the Dreamers might see it as that simple, their lives. Mediumsizedhand Nov 2017 #199
Good thing YOU are here to explain all of this ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #204
You make no sense. Being informed, being a Liberal Democrat is not contingent on time spent on Mediumsizedhand Nov 2017 #205
Of course ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #206
Lying about Democrats does not help people with R B Garr Nov 2017 #212
I don't think Bernie is lying. As a Democrat I can't say we're perfect? I welcome his criticism. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #245
You are just proving again why they targeted him. Wanting R B Garr Nov 2017 #246
RBGarr, Democrats and allies have been criticizing Democrats for a long time prior to 2016 aikoaiko Nov 2017 #257
Thats just an excuse, and the GOP thanks you. R B Garr Nov 2017 #258
What exactly did he say that was so irresponsible? aikoaiko Nov 2017 #260
Loyalty to his world view is no excuse to malign Democrats. Reality is that he R B Garr Nov 2017 #261
So you have nothing when you said his comments in this thread were irresponsible. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #263
His comments are in this thread, lol! Thats what this R B Garr Nov 2017 #268
Its not a denial of reality. We have legitimate disagreements about the value of criticism. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #270
Now all of a sudden you can remember that Bernie criticizes Democrats. R B Garr Nov 2017 #271
So you now you admit they're criticisms and not smears. Thank goodness you've come to your senses. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #273
You are so bad at this, yourself. Especially the part where you don't read the thread R B Garr Nov 2017 #274
Hes wrong on this. TDale313 Oct 2017 #165
Is he really this dense? lunamagica Oct 2017 #169
I haven't had a decent nights sleep since last November. nini Oct 2017 #173
He never passes up an opportunity to take pot shots at the Democratic Party. NT Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #179
"He never passes up an opportunity to take pot shots at the Democratic Party" Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #182
Sorry, Bernie, but the slide into fascism does keep me up at night. VOX Oct 2017 #185
I didnt have any grey hairs until this year. Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #188
Polling backs this unfortunately. Most Americans are dumbshits Arazi Nov 2017 #197
Who is losing sight of creating a more equal economy? betsuni Nov 2017 #198
I thought this was Huckabee-Sanders. herding cats Nov 2017 #200
+1 betsuni Nov 2017 #211
+++++++++++++++++++++ JHan Nov 2017 #216
Yep. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #249
well senator sanders has always been stuck on one speed. drray23 Nov 2017 #202
Bernies right. Open enrollment for insurance is 11/1/17 to 12/15/17- we can multitask, & see it all. Sunlei Nov 2017 #207
You Forgot to Add "Sarah" Before the Sanders TomCADem Nov 2017 #208
"Your issues aren't important" ecstatic Nov 2017 #209
Wow. Sanders (done with the sappy "Bernie") thinks the bedrock of our DEMOCRACY should be second WinkyDink Nov 2017 #221
realclearpolitics via Breitbart melman Nov 2017 #229
That is a video of Bernie's interview with Seth Meyers on Late Night. pnwmom Nov 2017 #237
"Interesting that Breitbart wants to spread them." melman Nov 2017 #240
Yeah, that's interesting. Breitbart aims at "ordinary Americans," too -- pnwmom Nov 2017 #241
I feel that way about The Intercept and Greenwald. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #248
Sorry, Bernie, but I DO. Because of this interference, the rightful POTUS is in New York catbyte Nov 2017 #230
Oh fuck off, Bernie. Americans vote for personalities Azathoth Nov 2017 #242
"More important..." ehrnst Nov 2017 #244
Sanders gets standard adversary op research treatment by some at DU Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #252
Yup. nt DLevine Nov 2017 #253
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #262
True enough. During primaries Democrats ARE adversaries to each other Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #264
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #272
Mr. Sanders is on the Senate Democratic Leadership Team. By definition, not an adversary n/t Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #275
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #279
2 am tweet: "Bernie agrees with me 100% that the Russia investigation is fake news. dalton99a Nov 2017 #254
Disagree Bradical79 Nov 2017 #255
Bernie benefited Johnny2X2X Nov 2017 #266
So the system really IS rigged, but now it doesn't matter? ucrdem Nov 2017 #267
Bernie should be looking to the near future: 2018 to be exact... AntiFascist Nov 2017 #276
This American cares a lot BainsBane Nov 2017 #277
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