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49. There are not too many "nice quiet European" countries left.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 09:38 AM
Nov 2017

Switzerland won't even let you open an account any more as a US citizen unless you prove a full-time Swiss residence, and can document it. Most, if not all, western European countries have mutual reporting agreements with the USA. If you want to park funds quietly somewhere in Europe, you best bet is someplace in the Baltics, like Latvia or Estonia. I've never been to either, but I know people who have actually moved there for that reason. I met a Canadian who moved to Estonia because they have no VAT on his business, and no restrictions at all on movements of money in any form. He seemed to like it, anyway. I can't see moving to Estonia for any reason unless my wife were to leave me, and some stunningly beautiful Estonian woman would ask me to come live with her.

At any rate, even if you want to move your funds overseas, if it's cash, you have to fill out a Treasury form if you are physically taking more than $10,000 with you. And if you wire funds somewhere, there is always a record of that, too, and reporting requirements are all still in place, anyway. So, I keep all my assets in the States except for immediate needs and looming German tax bills. Confiscation has a centuries-long tradition in Europe, and here in Germany, there was a particularly drastic episode of "Enteignung (de-ownership)" going on less than a century ago. The "the-state-is-always-right/the-individual-is-always-wrong" attitude is still very pervasive here, so I am wary of leaving anything around here. Of course, if Trump's insane budget-busting fantasies ever come close to getting enacted into law, I'll have to reconsider the whole situation.

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I suspect you're right. JNelson6563 Nov 2017 #1
I am more confident now than I was a month ago. kentuck Nov 2017 #4
And that is how it must be framed! Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #19
A lot of GOP family members did get prestigious jobs. nt Snotcicles Nov 2017 #81
Look at the Whitefish utility company vis a vis Zinke vis a vis Puerto Rico. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2017 #108
it is huge but I will not be surprised because of this malaise Nov 2017 #2
Yeah, that audio needs to start making the rounds again, methinks! woodsprite Nov 2017 #7
+1,000 malaise Nov 2017 #10
You are so right! Now that we know what we know about the Russians, it paints a clearer pic. FM123 Nov 2017 #32
Here are some links to that might help... woodsprite Nov 2017 #75
Your post needs to be an OP malaise Nov 2017 #114
Like many of Turd's campaign statements, it will sound very different now. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #77
No doubt it has made the rounds with Mueller and his team of prosecutors! MLAA Nov 2017 #80
Concur rufus dog Nov 2017 #65
Excellent post malaise Nov 2017 #69
BINGO! Republicans in Congress have their fingers in the Russian pie SusanaMontana41 Nov 2017 #109
I don't trust one of them malaise Nov 2017 #112
That makes two of us. They're all trash. nt SusanaMontana41 Nov 2017 #139
Did they ever find out who was behind the tape? dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #123
Wish I knew - I do have my own suspicion malaise Nov 2017 #130
Trump trashes everyone, but publicly kisses Putin ass Skittles Nov 2017 #127
It's amazing - all now he has not once criticized anything Russian malaise Nov 2017 #129
IT IS SO FREAKING OBVIOUS Skittles Nov 2017 #133
I agree and what we've seen is a grain of sand on a beach. Vinca Nov 2017 #3
Economic citizenship is big business malaise Nov 2017 #6
If they're legit U.S. passports, how would it happen? He must have multiple social security numbers. Vinca Nov 2017 #12
I believe I read that he had over a million dollars in clothes? kentuck Nov 2017 #13
He does look like a mink coat kind of guy. LOL. Vinca Nov 2017 #16
Man Fur. volstork Nov 2017 #54
You took this right out of my thoughts lillypaddle Nov 2017 #74
For any situation you can dream up, volstork Nov 2017 #88
LOL lillypaddle Nov 2017 #90
Not US passports malaise Nov 2017 #14
I heard that one of the countries was Ecuador? kentuck Nov 2017 #15
Distinctly possible malaise Nov 2017 #17
Kushner peddles citizenship to Chinese investors. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #78
Yep -I remember that malaise Nov 2017 #79
He is beginning to sound like some sort of secret agent. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #22
A double agent? kentuck Nov 2017 #24
Of course, that's it, secret squirrel for both sides. He played them both. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #29
A second US passport is difficult to acquire DFW Nov 2017 #23
No, it's actually very easy metalbot Nov 2017 #30
Maybe some but certainly not "most" countries. CincyDem Nov 2017 #41
Not quite sure PJMcK Nov 2017 #42
That depends on the software, I guess DFW Nov 2017 #43
Do you know the sort of identity details in most passports these days? malaise Nov 2017 #70
Don't know if it is/is not multiple countries but it is legal have multiple US Passports CincyDem Nov 2017 #34
Three US passports, different namEs. In the past decade applications for ten different passports lostnfound Nov 2017 #132
Whoa - hadn't heard that news. CincyDem Nov 2017 #134
I just heard them say he has three US passports_(on CNN) malaise Nov 2017 #99
I have two and I do not travel internationally much AngryAmish Nov 2017 #35
There are not too many "nice quiet European" countries left. DFW Nov 2017 #49
I don't do it for tax reasons. The IRS is informed of everything. AngryAmish Nov 2017 #85
Well, they may not be hard to be acquired by a crook, but Tracer Nov 2017 #71
That's a US passport - not that easy malaise Nov 2017 #72
Indeed. kentuck Nov 2017 #9
Not only disregard it, but tacitly support it, for example, the GOP! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #55
Speaking of Flynn, what about Jill Stein? Maggiemayhem Nov 2017 #38
Absolutely bigger than Watergate, especially given the Ukapau Nov 2017 #44
Watergate may REALLY turn out to be volstork Nov 2017 #53
The Plot to Hack America GeoWilliam750 Nov 2017 #5
Yes mikeysnot Nov 2017 #45
Only just started, so much is classified activity. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #8
I hope we get to know all of it get the red out Nov 2017 #11
Well ... ananda Nov 2017 #18
And, we've been paying attention to people like Malcolm Nance. GoCubsGo Nov 2017 #94
Nance is right up there with Mueller in the 3D chess league. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #100
I knew it was quite bad, deep and widespread. What surprised me is that someone is going Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #20
I suppose espionage may be a bridge too far? kentuck Nov 2017 #21
Given all their other crimes, why is this one being pursued? Good question. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #26
I don't think the GOP is responsible for pursuing this investigation. kentuck Nov 2017 #31
I am more cynical about Washington politics. The powers that be could have shut this down. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #33
These 4 or 5 Republicans are the ruling coalition... kentuck Nov 2017 #40
They don't necessarily have the Democratic Party behind them, but janx Nov 2017 #119
Putin's crime of the century was like taking candy from a baby. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #135
We shall see how far they let this go. I think the insiders know the score. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #136
They are the only ones restraining Trump right now... kentuck Nov 2017 #137
How do you mean? What do you think they are doing? nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #138
after they started a war based on lies and were never held accountable Skittles Nov 2017 #125
Let's hope DownriverDem Nov 2017 #25
No surprise here; this is what Louise Mensch and Claude Taylor have been saying for the past year elias7 Nov 2017 #27
The GOP proliferation into churches in the 70s was one of the first efforts by them to.... spixxen Nov 2017 #28
Mueller is up against the largest crime syndicate in the history of the world Botany Nov 2017 #36
I stand by my suspicion that the whole party was in on it. Initech Nov 2017 #37
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Since I've believed they were all fully complicit the whole time relayerbob Nov 2017 #46
Not at all surprised - I suspected from about 9 PM election night crimes were committed NRaleighLiberal Nov 2017 #47
My concern is that Mueller will feel the need to Mr. Ected Nov 2017 #48
Excellent point! kentuck Nov 2017 #50
It isn't going to be easy. I've thought about the same possibility. janx Nov 2017 #105
Agreed. Many are involved. democratisphere Nov 2017 #51
You're right. I never imagined a Republican candidate for president would Nitram Nov 2017 #52
It's startling! The GOP used to be the ones screaming about the red invasion and finding a RKP5637 Nov 2017 #58
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I did say, "In my opinion"... kentuck Nov 2017 #57
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Yeah, it was a rather long post... kentuck Nov 2017 #61
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Good summation. Important to note Putins plan to cultivate dotard Enoki33 Nov 2017 #73
no one actually looks to seeif results are accurate questionseverything Nov 2017 #91
By Jove gibraltar72 Nov 2017 #59
I think you are correct. UCmeNdc Nov 2017 #63
I agree workinclasszero Nov 2017 #64
I think you're right Kentuck. Greybnk48 Nov 2017 #66
I'm surprised that it's not too far off from what I imagined. (n/t) Iggo Nov 2017 #67
RICO! SUAVE PubliusEnigma Nov 2017 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #113
Agreed. Ryan, Dustbin Nunes, et al are acting extremely guilty. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #76
Louise Mensch and Claude Taylor have been saying this for months. bathroommonkey76 Nov 2017 #82
Russia identified and exploited our greatest weakness -- conservatism. byronius Nov 2017 #83
You nailed that one workinclasszero Nov 2017 #101
Not me. I've been screaming about this for 15 months. sofa king Nov 2017 #84
I have been saying all along this is systemic among repukes. Javaman Nov 2017 #86
I don't think I'll be surprised at all RandomAccess Nov 2017 #87
Some months ago, GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #89
More tweets from Mensch and Taylor in the OP please. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #92
The U.S. was attacked and seized by willing instruments of the Russian government... VOX Nov 2017 #93
What's bigger? Bradical79 Nov 2017 #95
I think there will be facts come out that no one here has thought about... kentuck Nov 2017 #96
I believe a loose consortium of millionaire/billionaires are also involved.... Raster Nov 2017 #103
Fux gnewz has been pimping putin to their minions for years. socialism is BAD, but i guess pansypoo53219 Nov 2017 #97
I'm beginning to think that now also lunatica Nov 2017 #98
Anyone notice that when RWNJ's talk about Hillary and Russians they are still "commies"? brewens Nov 2017 #102
I hope you're correct, Kentuck. SergeStorms Nov 2017 #104
It became a whole new ballgame with the first indictment and guilty plea. kentuck Nov 2017 #107
How many votes.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #124
Espionage is EXACTLY what this is. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2017 #106
I won't be surprised... 2naSalit Nov 2017 #110
If "red baiting" is anti democracy,remember Roy Cohn as Trump mentor, Fred Koch $ from Stalin/Hitle stuffmatters Nov 2017 #111
Have you noticed the numbers who have read this malaise Nov 2017 #115
As well they should be. n/t janx Nov 2017 #116
as a prominent role model for my generation once said, "I can imagine an awful lot." paulkienitz Nov 2017 #117
they stole the Supreme Court seat because they knew Hillary would never be president Skittles Nov 2017 #118
K&R... spanone Nov 2017 #120
I won't be surprised. concreteblue Nov 2017 #121
I just fear the worst of it will get covered up dflprincess Nov 2017 #122
Trojan Horse Hekate Nov 2017 #126
Kick sarcasmo Nov 2017 #128
Kick for bigger than imagined!!! Raster Nov 2017 #131
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