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Demsrule86

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47. Oh please any Democrat is better than Gillespie...and Virginia has implications in the 2020

Wed Nov 1, 2017, 11:31 AM

Nov 2017

presidential race...it is imperative we win the governorship...Sen. Sander is not a Democrat and appears not to care one way or the other. There is a GOP governor in Vermont now. I really believe Sen. Sanders could have prevented this. He is very popular in Vermont. Also,the endorsement of Perriello hurt Northam too. Below is an article that appeared just before we lost Vermont...that is the Democrats lost Vermont.

"Bernie Sanders, by far the most popular political figure in his state but one who has long clashed with the more moderate Democratic establishment there, has no apparent plans to assist Democrats' nominee for governor, Sue Minter, who faces a difficult race against popular GOP Lt. Gov. Phil Scott despite Vermont’s liberal leanings."

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/bernie-sanders-vermont-sue-minter-228980

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Bernie Sanders Sits Out a Tight Race in Virginia [View all] comradebillyboy Nov 2017 OP

INteresting Me. Nov 2017 #1

Interesting? Not really, just some right wing hope to divide us. FSogol Nov 2017 #14

Disagree Me. Nov 2017 #28

Wow, compelling argument! Kudos! FSogol Nov 2017 #31

Who Made You JUdge & Jury Me. Nov 2017 #32

Just my opinion, like almost everything I say. FSogol Nov 2017 #33

Precisely Me. Nov 2017 #36

So, why are you upset? FSogol Nov 2017 #37

Not Upset Me. Nov 2017 #61

If Bernie were serious about moving this country on a progressive path then he'd support the DEM pnwmom Nov 2017 #115

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #2

What a load of bullshit. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #4

Bullshit. Richmond and Newport News are blue areas too. Harrisonburg is purple. FSogol Nov 2017 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #7

Charlottesville is very blue too ollie10 Nov 2017 #8

Agreed. n/t FSogol Nov 2017 #12

Bernie endorsed Periello countingbluecars Nov 2017 #3

Periello has been quite vocal in his support for Northam. n/t FSogol Nov 2017 #6

I hope not because that would be putting your butt hurt before the state (Virginia) Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #41

shit... we don't need this uponit7771 Nov 2017 #45

I'm sorry, countingbluecars Nov 2017 #57

Sorry, I mean we don't need Sanders sitting out on this ... jus, little frustrated with uponit7771 Nov 2017 #60

Thanks countingbluecars Nov 2017 #62

I'm with you, countingbluecars. calimary Nov 2017 #93

Republicans are using this as propaganda. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #9

Exactly, this is just a feeble attempt to divide us. n/t FSogol Nov 2017 #13

Northam has a lot of support. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #18

True, but it will all come down to turnout. GOTV, VA. FSogol Nov 2017 #19

Big time. Always does. GOTV, VA. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #22

If Sanders showed overt support they wouldn't be able to divide us in this manner. Why doesn't Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #42

Sanders lost by a large margin in the VA primary. What would his support do? Chuck Schumer FSogol Nov 2017 #49

This is not between two Democrats...it would help. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #69

Once again Sanders is nothing but talk, I suppose. FSogol Nov 2017 #73

Yep...he doesn't like the Democratic party...it has always been a 'marriage' of convenience. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #127

You keep alleging as such LanternWaste Nov 2017 #109

Here you go, from the friendly people at the Republican Governor's Assoc. FSogol Nov 2017 #112

Well, yet more proof that this sets the table for them very nicely. Again. R B Garr Nov 2017 #24

I see no reason Sanders wouldnt write a short endorsement. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #29

Exactly, one would think he could at least acknowledge that the Democrat is always R B Garr Nov 2017 #43

Well, you can see why they would. They don't even have to make anything up. Demit Nov 2017 #34

They shouldn't be gifted an opportunity to hurt us with the truth. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #35

People in this thread don't seem to understand your statement, so I'll lay it out: FSogol Nov 2017 #63

"No wedge exists" NCTraveler Nov 2017 #65

Bernie is probably doing Northam a favor (unintentionally) JaneQPublic Nov 2017 #10

My thoughts exactly still_one Nov 2017 #11

He could send an email to his supporters RandySF Nov 2017 #27

The voters who would not be swayed by a Bernie endorsement are GOP types anyway...it could Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #44

RIGHT !!! This is a turnout race why not have all hands on deck ... jus, I'll wait but this doesn't uponit7771 Nov 2017 #48

No it doesn't look good to give the GOP ammo against Northam. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #70

No... no.... no... all hands on deck and if they're not going after Obama why would they go after uponit7771 Nov 2017 #46

You don't think Northam could use some of that 35%? Demit Nov 2017 #64

I'm giving them credit for being able to think for themselves. JaneQPublic Nov 2017 #66

He already has them. You think they'll become Confederate-loving Repubs since Peirello didn't win? FSogol Nov 2017 #105

I love your complete confidence in what voters will do! Demit Nov 2017 #117

In Northern VA, I've seen Gillespie's racist ads 1,000 times, and Northam's ad only once. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #15

They are split evenly in the Roanoke area. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #17

Northam's ads have picked up the last few weeks. His quantity of ads is surpassing Gillespie's now. FSogol Nov 2017 #21

I don't watch much local TV, so I may be missing it. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #23

Do we know if Northam asked Sanders to help out? Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #16

Good point. Sanders would be criticized if he helped him without being asked. Bluepinky Nov 2017 #20

There's plenty of criticism flying around... Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #26

No he wouldn't. That would show some loyalty to the Democratic Party Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #68

Brernie is pretty selective with his outreach. comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #87

Really? Hard to fathom when he endorsed Mello. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #126

This is a perfect race for Bernie to talk to those working class Whites that he claims to care about Blue_true Nov 2017 #25

Indeed! Me. Nov 2017 #30

yep, don't understand burning for the adequate for good or perfect. This should be all hands on deck uponit7771 Nov 2017 #50

He wants his revolution, not the Democrats' incremental progress. Demit Nov 2017 #53

Yes, this has been clear for a while. This is why I am not a fan. Incremental Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #38

How to make an issue out of nothing. KPN Nov 2017 #39

Ralph Northam voted twice for George W. Bush for president, virtualobserver Nov 2017 #40

Oh please any Democrat is better than Gillespie...and Virginia has implications in the 2020 Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #47

And Northam's Bernie-endorsed primary opponent had issues, too. JaneQPublic Nov 2017 #51

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2017 #55

agreed......my objection concerns the attack on Bernie for "non-endorsement" virtualobserver Nov 2017 #88

So burn the adequate for good or perfect and get none of it ?! REALLY !?!?!? uponit7771 Nov 2017 #54

No, I'd still vote for him.....but this was an attack Bernie thread virtualobserver Nov 2017 #80

Attacking the Democratic candidate one week before the election? FSogol Nov 2017 #56

This thread was attacking Bernie.....which is standard procedure here. virtualobserver Nov 2017 #76

So retaliate by attacking the Democratic candidate for Virginia with some RW tropes? FSogol Nov 2017 #82

His record is not a "trope"....There is a reason why Team Obama supported Periello.... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #85

Team Obama didn't support Periello, only a few of his staff did. The others were Northam supporters. FSogol Nov 2017 #89

No it does not, not at all ... burning the adequate for the perfect or good is senseless. uponit7771 Nov 2017 #90

You do know Obama countingbluecars Nov 2017 #96

Everything that Bernie does or doesn't do is spun in a negative way on this site. virtualobserver Nov 2017 #99

You know who is pushing that story? The Republican Governors Association onenote Nov 2017 #58

+1 n/t FSogol Nov 2017 #59

what I'm saying is, he can't be relied on.... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #75

Not the point, why wouldn't dems want all hands on deck to get even incremental progress?! Seems uponit7771 Nov 2017 #91

no, this attack on Bernie is senseless virtualobserver Nov 2017 #94

Stating facts is not an attack, if Sanders has supported the VA dem gov in any way uponit7771 Nov 2017 #95

If stating facts is not an attack, why is it inappropriate to mention Northam's voting record.... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #102

Its not inappropriate to state his record if its not in defense of Sanders not supporting him uponit7771 Nov 2017 #110

Virginia was hardly a Sanders stronghold in the primary.... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #111

Link for the claim he almost switched to the republicans? He endorsed Obama in Feb. 2008. onenote Nov 2017 #104

here virtualobserver Nov 2017 #106

This article casts it in a different light onenote Nov 2017 #116

he is spinning it differently 8 years later.....that is politics virtualobserver Nov 2017 #118

Staunch supporters of Abortion rights don't vote for the guy who put Roberts and Alito on the court. virtualobserver Nov 2017 #97

of course. The efforts to make sure democrats are fighting the 2016 primary going into the 2018 Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #123

Repub talking points. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #71

No, Republican voting record virtualobserver Nov 2017 #74

You're thinking of Perriello, the guy Bernie endorsed that we rejected. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #77

I'm thinking of the guy that voted for Bush twice and almost switched to Repubs in 2009 virtualobserver Nov 2017 #78

No, you're thinking of the anti-woman, pro-gun guy that Bernie endorsed. He got thrashed. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #79

Why did team Obama want Perriello? virtualobserver Nov 2017 #83

Why did NARAL want Northam? nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #84

You didn't answer my question. virtualobserver Nov 2017 #92

He had NEA teachers union, and Equality Virginia. Also, every statewide Democratic office holder... LexVegas Nov 2017 #98

A better plan to "get over it" would be to stop attacking Bernie.... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #100

You attacked a Democrat running in an election that's being held next week. LexVegas Nov 2017 #103

I was defending Bernie...I said that I would vote for Northam virtualobserver Nov 2017 #107

Fair enough. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #108

Just curious. countingbluecars Nov 2017 #81

no, but if I did, I would vote for Northam. virtualobserver Nov 2017 #86

It would be interesting to know if Northam wanted a Sanders endoursement karynnj Nov 2017 #52

It is not the same thing...Kaine ran as centrist. Northam has not done so...and Virginia has a Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #67

You obviously know nothing about Vt's gubernatorial race karynnj Nov 2017 #72

Haha...I am from Virginia and followed the primary closely...Perriello had abortion rights issues Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #128

Good to see Bernie's opinion carries so much weight. Call or email him and ask this question. jalan48 Nov 2017 #101

Ok, so what? Perhaps Sanders doesn't have the same confidence or trust in the policies that JCanete Nov 2017 #113

Fine countingbluecars Nov 2017 #114

why not? We think the reasons for that win are different. nt JCanete Nov 2017 #119

You obviously don't live countingbluecars Nov 2017 #120

the state of virginia and the rest of the US has been a long time in the making. There are things JCanete Nov 2017 #121

Awwwww, perfection. Blue_true Nov 2017 #122

This part caught my eye... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #124

Yes it was a very insightful article. comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #125

Wow Pugster Nov 2017 #129

Wow Pugster Nov 2017 #130

That's ok. Pugster Nov 2017 #131