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disillusioned73

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6. I was just about to post this..

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 09:04 AM

Nov 2017

This is disappointing..
I'm a bit surprised not to see a prominent figure in the Democratic party that writes a pretty scathing article & it gets zero attention here.. maybe the truth stings too much - but the reality is that these things need addressed or at least seen, people have been trying to say it since the election.. but instead of discussion and/or analysis we get disdain and contempt.. This party is in trouble, whether people here want to face it or not..

"When we hung up, I was livid. Not at Gary, but at this mess I had inherited. I knew that Debbie had outsourced a lot of the management of the party and had not been the greatest at fundraising. I would not be that kind of chair, even if I was only an interim chair. Did they think I would just be a surrogate for them, get on the road and rouse up the crowds? I was going to manage this party the best I could and try to make it better, even if Brooklyn did not like this. It would be weeks before I would fully understand the financial shenanigans that were keeping the party on life support."

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Inside Hillary Clintons Secret Takeover of the DNC (By DONNA BRAZILE November 02, 2017) [View all] Omaha Steve Nov 2017 OP

K & R Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #1

Lots of cya going on joeybee12 Nov 2017 #2

exactly OKNancy Nov 2017 #4

I've read it three times. Still wondering what the hell hillary did that was so bad. She bailed out boston bean Nov 2017 #5

I couldn't see what was so terrible either. But the "OMG CLINTON MACHINE" people will love it. betsuni Nov 2017 #13

It's the political equivalent of a bodice-ripper. Even the writing... (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #63

I know. NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #185

"Broke my heart..." ehrnst Nov 2017 #210

"Cancer?" This woman is dead to me. How dare she Hortensis Nov 2017 #365

Well, she's already bringing the lucre in. ehrnst Nov 2017 #411

This could be Russian propaganda, but of course who needs Hortensis Nov 2017 #412

If OR wasn't getting the $$ from this email ehrnst Nov 2017 #413

Well, the more the radical bent is exposed the better. Hortensis Nov 2017 #424

If the DNC was broke and in debt radical noodle Nov 2017 #406

my thought as well. I wondered if it was satire at first. Amaryllis Nov 2017 #451

It's already a YUUUUGE hit with the deplorables. highplainsdem Nov 2017 #271

I think people are retweeting this without even reading the article Pugster Nov 2017 #17

The DNC was bankrupt and Hillary's campaign bought a controlling interest for pennies on the dollar Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #86

The thing is the DNC couldn't wait for 2015 to start the process ehrnst Nov 2017 #91

Actually, I do understand that Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #124

Telling the DNC to ignore the common wisdom of starting the groundswell and mechanisms ehrnst Nov 2017 #202

I disagree that the DNC was right Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #219

You were the one who brought up the "choice of voters" ehrnst Nov 2017 #226

OK, fine about the "goalposts" Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #245

15% - yeah in elections that's pretty overwhelming. ehrnst Nov 2017 #248

Now you are the one who introduced wording Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #258

Mea cupla - I introduced the word rigging. ehrnst Nov 2017 #266

This is ridiculous. The DNC did not rig the primary, nor did they have the ability to. StevieM Nov 2017 #299

This is what I think the DNC (probably - still needs to vbe verified) did Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #308

As Melissa McEwen put it: ehrnst Nov 2017 #374

There's a little more to it -- RandomAccess Nov 2017 #437

What harm would have been done by keeping the DNC neutral in the nominating process Ken Burch Nov 2017 #368

What was Bernie's contribution to the DNC? R B Garr Nov 2017 #389

That isn't the point. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #399

The slams against Hillary and the DNC are money related, so why not examine for Bernie...? R B Garr Nov 2017 #408

As I understand it, the question is whether the bailout came with strings. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #410

How much did he contribute? R B Garr Nov 2017 #416

This isn't about Hillary vs. Bernie Ken Burch Nov 2017 #418

Except that wasn't what was going on here. This was set up as an "anti-establishment" R B Garr Nov 2017 #422

BAILOUT???? RandomAccess Nov 2017 #432

+27 chwaliszewski Nov 2017 #203

You have a cart - horse problem there. nt fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #375

The lesson, to me, is that we should never treat anyone as "the presumed nominee". Ken Burch Nov 2017 #363

Oh bs. For real. She helped save the committee and she is the bad guy now. boston bean Nov 2017 #97

Yes, that is how democracy works. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #125

Campaigns and political parties work in various ways in a Democracy ehrnst Nov 2017 #194

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #131

Not Hillary, the DNC zipplewrath Nov 2017 #107

But any Dem candidate for 2016 would have to start in 2014 ehrnst Nov 2017 #127

Yes, but they don't control the party zipplewrath Nov 2017 #136

I get that, but am not seeing how this was "control" over the party ehrnst Nov 2017 #164

Dunno why you put it quotes zipplewrath Nov 2017 #223

Hillary was the running the debate schedule and clearing press releases? ehrnst Nov 2017 #224

Strategy zipplewrath Nov 2017 #228

What about the debates? ehrnst Nov 2017 #230

That's strategy zipplewrath Nov 2017 #233

Tactics and planning are not the same as "rigging" ehrnst Nov 2017 #259

Number and timing zipplewrath Nov 2017 #275

letting the repubs have a couple monthes headstart debating is what killed us questionseverything Nov 2017 #356

Wait... the "Hillary Clinton Victory Fund" contributions were used by Hillary??? WTH?? boston bean Nov 2017 #138

Funded by the DNC zipplewrath Nov 2017 #142

We didn't know it was going to that fund when we were writing checks to the DNC. Baitball Blogger Nov 2017 #158

I donated to her victory fund. It was called that. boston bean Nov 2017 #167

I donated to the Democratic Party. Baitball Blogger Nov 2017 #172

you are making an assumption or claim that is not in that breathless expose. boston bean Nov 2017 #180

I read the article and applied the information to my personal experience Baitball Blogger Nov 2017 #187

you had to notate it was for that. Next time pay closer attention if it bothered u that much. boston bean Nov 2017 #189

I don't think it would have mattered, in this case. Baitball Blogger Nov 2017 #215

Lol. At the time the "victory" was supposed to be for down ticket races too. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #261

I seem to remember her oft criticized choices where to campaign were often in support of down ticket bettyellen Nov 2017 #281

I'm sure that's what you seem to remember. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #283

Your rude reply is noted. bettyellen Nov 2017 #285

Thank you for noting HRC's bailout of the DNC. democratisphere Nov 2017 #145

Agreed . . . peggysue2 Nov 2017 #169

What's so bad about it is the violation of neutrality. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #268

Post the preceding paragraph to give some context. boston bean Nov 2017 #280

Sorry, I'm not following you. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #286

No. Post the preceding paragraph to the one you posted. It provides wonderul context. boston bean Nov 2017 #291

Enough with the game-playing. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #296

The paragraph preceding the one you already posted. boston bean Nov 2017 #298

The "secret plan" was publicly announced in August 2015. lapucelle Nov 2017 #329

That is simply and demonstrably false. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #332

No, your claim is simply and demonstrably false. lapucelle Nov 2017 #337

Then please quote the 2015 Politico language that disclosed the part I highlighted. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #341

"Then please quote the 2015 Politico language that disclosed the part I highlighted"... lapucelle Nov 2017 #388

You said in #329 that it was "publicly announced". Jim Lane Nov 2017 #421

Both agreements were announced in the press at the time they were signed. lapucelle Nov 2017 #428

There was no public announcement of the Clinton campaign's control over the DNC. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #439

The details of both agreements were and remain confidential information. lapucelle Nov 2017 #443

Everything lapucelle posted has been either posted in this thread R B Garr Nov 2017 #430

Doesn't the problem stem from the Clinton campaign having control over the purse strings of the JCanete Nov 2017 #350

I think that is a twisted reading of an account. boston bean Nov 2017 #351

I'm twisting Braziles account? Really? Or is she twisting the reality first? I can't dispute the JCanete Nov 2017 #353

Yes. boston bean Nov 2017 #358

Why don't you tell me what she's actually saying? This should be interesting. nt JCanete Nov 2017 #361

No boston bean Nov 2017 #366

Yeah, Bernie could have contributed millions and worked to bring the DNC R B Garr Nov 2017 #384

This from me, who was a strong Bernie supporter during the primary: Clinton did what she had to do PatrickforO Nov 2017 #419

shoot the messenger. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #9

No. joeybee12 Nov 2017 #12

Whats the one side? former9thward Nov 2017 #25

Nope. It's the salaciously written implications. ehrnst Nov 2017 #65

Thanks for saying it. The hate on Hillary group can't wait to snip & send. Wwcd Nov 2017 #120

Yep, she was fantastic. ehrnst Nov 2017 #128

I do not want Hillary Clinton to shut up and go away. I want her to speak. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #270

what were those, so that I can understand what she said versus what she implied? It sounds to me JCanete Nov 2017 #352

Yeah, especially in light of this piece she wrote in March. ehrnst Nov 2017 #238

Read the whole article before commenting OKNancy Nov 2017 #3

Sander's ran as a Democrat. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #7

Knowing full well what that would involve. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #53

Yes, for sinister reasons even HE admits to. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2017 #122

If by "Sinister" you mean as "mathematically required by the Constitution," then I agree. Gore1FL Nov 2017 #157

What are you referring to ehrnst Nov 2017 #249

Yes Gore1FL Nov 2017 #355

I guess.. disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #11

If by "control" you mean a fiduciary duty to the party that will support their campaign ehrnst Nov 2017 #55

It was more than just that Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #143

I'm glad someone did that had knowledge of finances ehrnst Nov 2017 #254

More like this RandomAccess Nov 2017 #438

It's really not about Bernie Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #140

DING DING DING Lazy Daisy Nov 2017 #220

And they all knew that she was the front runner, and they all knew what year it was ehrnst Nov 2017 #234

That quote you included was her progress report Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #241

The realities of campaigns aren't for everyone. ehrnst Nov 2017 #243

I thought whe was well qualified Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #250

I understand the difference between criticism. Many on DU don't. ehrnst Nov 2017 #252

OK Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #263

Indeed. ehrnst Nov 2017 #264

This G_j Nov 2017 #312

You see "nothing...that is really bad on Hillary's part. What about on the DNC's part? Jim Lane Nov 2017 #272

+ 1 musette_sf Nov 2017 #339

I was just about to post this.. disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #6

+100 Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #8

It requires actually reading and not easily digested in 140 character snarky retorts Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #14

I agree. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #32

I completely agree.. disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #52

Party is in trouble romana Nov 2017 #51

Your entitled to that opinion.. disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #57

My opinion is that romana Nov 2017 #99

I'm of the opinion... tonedevil Nov 2017 #247

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #73

"Obama screwed it (Democratic Party) over"??? Really now?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #90

Financially /nt romana Nov 2017 #95

Nonsense. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #115

Blame It On The Black Guy BS..... LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #197

So, you think that Donna Brazile is blaming Obama because he is black? virtualobserver Nov 2017 #251

The posts here read as if they come from a party incapable of self-correcting virtualobserver Nov 2017 #256

Fortunately, the posts here are not a representative sample. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #273

One of your favorite strawmen. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #294

I have yet to see any criticism of the DNC that is met with anything other than absolute rejection virtualobserver Nov 2017 #372

Thats because of your confirmation bias. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #373

when she was on the outside, she had one perception......when she was put in charge... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #380

She wrote that when she was on the inside. BTW A truth Donna left out emulatorloo Nov 2017 #405

but she wasn't in charge and things were concealed from her virtualobserver Nov 2017 #429

She was in charge when she wrote that. Sorry emulatorloo Nov 2017 #448

That Time article did not debunk the DNC rigging charge virtualobserver Nov 2017 #449

Reading comprehension please emulatorloo Nov 2017 #450

the "rigging" occurred early on, not in the behavior of the staff and their emails virtualobserver Nov 2017 #452

SECOND THAT onetexan Nov 2017 #165

I suppose the DNC could have been more machiavellian in their financial dealings ehrnst Nov 2017 #59

Oh I bet you are disappointed. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #121

Disappointed, not suprised.. disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #168

I doubt there would ever be any form of atonement that would satisfy Bernie supporters. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #218

You say "more airing out" but AFAIK this is the first time this deal has come to light. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #276

The facts that HRC saved the party finances? ehrnst Nov 2017 #235

Fine, we get it, DWS was a shitty leader Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #211

THIS KPN Nov 2017 #255

Hillary mathematically clinched in March.. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2017 #10

Yep. Interesting how Brazille throws Obama under the bus as well. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #61

If you count ONLY regular delegates - as superdelegates can change their positions - she had NOT karynnj Nov 2017 #153

But this agreement was signed in 2015, before one single vote had been cast. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #278

No she didn't. Only if you count the supers Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #301

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #15

I had always thought snowybirdie Nov 2017 #16

One of the reasons I supported Perez over Ellison. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #76

Though to be fair, Ellison was clear in saying he'd give up his seat in Congress if he were PatsFan87 Nov 2017 #84

I think Perez was more prepared for the office ehrnst Nov 2017 #93

Completely fair. I just think the "we need a full time chair" criticism of Ellison that was going PatsFan87 Nov 2017 #111

Totally agree. They cannot focus on the job when involved with other activities. LiberalFighter Nov 2017 #200

Donna Brazile was/is a centrist, overly-polite Dem that was ALWAYS TheDebbieDee Nov 2017 #18

Another circular firing squad hit on HRC. CYA for Donna. Why would she do this at this time? coolsandy Nov 2017 #19

uuummm Omaha Steve Nov 2017 #29

I'm Assuming That You KNow Me. Nov 2017 #152

He's a fond memory at this point & that's ok. Wwcd Nov 2017 #159

... Me. Nov 2017 #160

..... (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #253

Here here BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #174

This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #196

It's called "retro rationalization, seeking to justify what was already done to cause harm." coolsandy Nov 2017 #274

Indeed Me. Nov 2017 #292

Are you now insinuating Bernie 2016 misused our Donations? emulatorloo Nov 2017 #284

"the money drained from the party that went to an Independent candidate running as a Democrat" Omaha Steve Nov 2017 #307

Hope the hand heals soon, I hate being on painkillers emulatorloo Nov 2017 #313

No, never Sanders wont unify self-identified Democrats. David__77 Nov 2017 #31

Candidates share funds with the party ehrnst Nov 2017 #117

MSNBC just had a discussion about the fund-raising letters both candidates signed, R B Garr Nov 2017 #166

She is selling a book. Getting out in front of anyone else is good for sales. ehrnst Nov 2017 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #155

I'm sure that the investigations into Russian interference would make ehrnst Nov 2017 #257

Manafort .. yikes! Wwcd Nov 2017 #262

Here's a question I keep asking without getting a good answer Jim Lane Nov 2017 #282

Rational self interest. joshcryer Nov 2017 #387

And after all that time defending Brazile and saying she did nothing wrong... vi5 Nov 2017 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #30

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. Gimble. ehrnst Nov 2017 #130

I think that making money with a book that implies corruption where there isn't any ehrnst Nov 2017 #38

Seems you are right. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #41

Exactamundo.. disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #66

Yeah, because someone is always "wrong" or always "right" ehrnst Nov 2017 #72

I can distinguish. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #287

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2017 #295

She shouldn't have forwarded the questions. ehrnst Nov 2017 #305

Yes, but in this case... vi5 Nov 2017 #345

What you just stated is a big deal around here. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #394

Well, it wasn't a secret takeover... Orsino Nov 2017 #204

My goodness. DURHAM D Nov 2017 #21

Whataboutism. David__77 Nov 2017 #34

I did not mention emailism.. DURHAM D Nov 2017 #44

It amuses me when people think that Bernie turning over his donor list shanny Nov 2017 #176

You mean the 80% that went on to support Hillary? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #237

"Vote for" does not equal "support"--especially in the face of Cheeto. nt shanny Nov 2017 #309

You say she's "desperate for attention". Is what she wrote true? (n/t) Jim Lane Nov 2017 #288

Well if she says that she "discovered" the joint financial agreement... ehrnst Nov 2017 #306

You keep trying to make this JUST about the money. The issue is the control. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #315

This seems very negative Not Ruth Nov 2017 #22

Ahh yes those dirty rotten Clintons again. Republicans have been warning us about them for Wwcd Nov 2017 #23

I know! the party's been doing so well, and winning so much! Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #37

Are you aware that this is a board that supports Democrats? ehrnst Nov 2017 #42

we don't all march in lockstep. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #54

What threat? ehrnst Nov 2017 #67

"but you soon will be" is a threat. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #75

How so? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #77

How silly of me to not recognize your exalted position here. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #94

So how did I "threaten" you? ehrnst Nov 2017 #96

How much longer do I have to wait? Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #103

Yes that is what I said. ehrnst Nov 2017 #105

I never said anything "awful" would come from anything happening here. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #126

That's what threat means.... ehrnst Nov 2017 #135

If I were to say I was mad I would be lying. I have never been mad during our discussion. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #149

Oh, so you think I have the power to wave my wand and get you kicked off DU... ehrnst Nov 2017 #178

ehrnst, I too am curious about what you mean by "you will be soon." Demit Nov 2017 #170

See my response to cobalt above. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #236

I saw no threat either. Control-Z Nov 2017 #267

Cobalt V has been a member since 2004. I doubt she needs to be taught DU's purpose. Demit Nov 2017 #277

Agreed melman Nov 2017 #324

I am also unsettled by this post LeonardShelby Nov 2017 #232

"aware that this is a board that supports Democrat" is what they said. uppityperson Nov 2017 #447

What does this mean LeonardShelby Nov 2017 #455

You may not understand that this is a board that supports Democrats, but read more uppityperson Nov 2017 #456

This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #141

I didn't know Russia caused the states to keep less than half of 1% of the $82 million they raised. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #161

This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #188

sorry, you aren't making sense to me but we tried talk. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #290

Donna Braziles comments should be banned? David__77 Nov 2017 #40

Who is saying that her comments should be banned? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #69

Here: Ask the Administrators or ATA Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #47

A prominent Democrat disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #70

Doesn't mean that it's accurate or well-meaning. ehrnst Nov 2017 #81

Well, IS it accurate? Jim Lane Nov 2017 #289

Been a loophole for years zipplewrath Nov 2017 #109

LOL took me a minute to figure out you meant "loophole." Demit Nov 2017 #173

Yeah, I knew it was wrong but I couldn't figure it out zipplewrath Nov 2017 #225

... LexVegas Nov 2017 #24

It's abundantly clear, Donna's not the person you'd want in your lifeboat. oasis Nov 2017 #27

For obvious practical reasons also.... AngryAmish Nov 2017 #83

Well said comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #229

This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #28

K&Fuckin'R Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #35

Secret takeover? NCTraveler Nov 2017 #36

That's my favorite part, "secret takeover." It must be Christmas and New Year's over at JPR. betsuni Nov 2017 #45

I know. ehrnst Nov 2017 #46

She built her power base within the Democratic party for decades The Mouth Nov 2017 #64

And she cravenly "worked closely" with people "inside the beltway" for decades ehrnst Nov 2017 #106

This is such an intelligent (and knowledgeable) comment. Demit Nov 2017 #181

Thank you The Mouth Nov 2017 #217

+1 Exactly. n/t FSogol Nov 2017 #101

The secret was that the Officers didn't know zipplewrath Nov 2017 #112

The officers didn't know something rank and file Democrats knew? NCTraveler Nov 2017 #116

No one really knew zipplewrath Nov 2017 #129

"No one really knew" NCTraveler Nov 2017 #139

No, you wouldn't have found 5 people zipplewrath Nov 2017 #239

wow. I can't wait to read it!! Interesting book title, "Hacks"! m-lekktor Nov 2017 #39

The title of the article is clearly trying to gin up divisiveness in the party. rogue emissary Nov 2017 #43

The JPR nutjobs are gonna LOVE Donna now! ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #48

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #49

So if Clinton wanted to run in 2016 she had to delisen Nov 2017 #89

Any Dem candidate for 2016 had to start the process in 2014 ehrnst Nov 2017 #110

Oh, well, if people on JPR say something, that PROVES it's false. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #293

Glenn is already speaking out, all aquiver ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #325

Is what Donna Brazile wrote true? (n/t) Jim Lane Nov 2017 #328

That a secret deal was made? Yeah she said that ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #331

Let's put aside all the discussion about things she didn't say. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #335

Shes inferring that the Joint Funding agreement was unusual. Its not. ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #348

The defenders keep wanting to talk ONLY about the money. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #360

Hillary seems to me a very organized person who sees possibilities and likes to clean up messes. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #50

Yep. During the primary I watched as her staff members DURHAM D Nov 2017 #62

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #56

Its the worst writing since HA Goodman ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #71

LOL nt DURHAM D Nov 2017 #74

Are we throwing Donna Brazile under the bus now? InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #85

Not me ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #92

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #113

First of all ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #133

The secrecy isn't about the money, it's about one campaign's control of the DNC. (n/t) Jim Lane Nov 2017 #314

To critique her implications is "throwing her under the bus?" ehrnst Nov 2017 #104

Not necessarily, you have a point... guess it depends on HOW those implications are being critiqued. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #118

Also, in converse, Julian Assange has suddenly decided that she's ehrnst Nov 2017 #191

It reads like a bodice-ripper. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #114

If Bernie Wanted Democratic Party Resources and the Nomination, Why Didn't He Join the Party? dlk Nov 2017 #58

If There Is A Primary.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #206

it is like the dnc is finally admitting primaries are just for show questionseverything Nov 2017 #370

Pretty Much.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #458

O'Malley was a Democrat. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #304

Brazile was a Clinton ally marylandblue Nov 2017 #60

Back in the 90's yes. But she made a fatal mistake in the 2000 campaign in not VermontKevin Nov 2017 #132

Oh look, more anti-Hillary porn. MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #68

Well hey, Glen Greenwald LOVES it ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #78

Ha, it IS porn! betsuni Nov 2017 #79

Agreed MFM008 Nov 2017 #80

The writing is kind of like the acting in porn JI7 Nov 2017 #82

Ok, you got a lol out of me. MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #88

Yeah, I get a bodice-ripper vibe from it ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #98

Exactly - titillating the Hillary hating crowd ehrnst Nov 2017 #119

Are Donna Brazile's statements true? Jim Lane Nov 2017 #318

Oh, good grief... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #87

The principle fault here is certainly the DNC's. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #320

Agreed. n/t Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #322

Oops, I just noticed an error in my post. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #327

Both Donna and Debbie awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #100

The person who looks the worst in this is Debbie Wasserman Schultz. PatsFan87 Nov 2017 #102

DWS.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #214

As with everything else that happened on earth between 2007-17, it was Obamas fault, eh Donna? BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #108

Sorta zipplewrath Nov 2017 #123

Yes, I remember thinking often during his administration BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #171

I do not like the optics of this at all superpatriotman Nov 2017 #134

Yep, especially when it's ginned up with bodice-ripper style titilation ehrnst Nov 2017 #147

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #137

We are not the opposition party. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #146

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Nov 2017 #144

Okay, she lost me at the lighting a candle.... VermontKevin Nov 2017 #148

The DNC was heavily in debt mercuryblues Nov 2017 #150

LMAO, now Brazile is a "solid D, former DNC chair", instead of a R B Garr Nov 2017 #151

+1 betsuni Nov 2017 #183

I believe her. These are the undercurrents that have eroded trust in the Democratic party. Baitball Blogger Nov 2017 #154

Whether you agree or disagree with brazille, I think the takeaway is that there is significant SweetieD Nov 2017 #156

Yep loyalsister Nov 2017 #433

sounds like someone is looking for a Fox News gig. nt procon Nov 2017 #162

Is what she wrote true? (n/t) Jim Lane Nov 2017 #321

Over here in Wisconsin jodymarie aimee Nov 2017 #163

She was caught leaking a debate question while working for CNN and subsequently resigned. jalan48 Nov 2017 #175

The DNC did indeed tip the scales in HRC's favor. kytngirl Nov 2017 #177

What Brazille describes is more than tipping the scales. The Dem Party agreed to let Bernie run Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #201

Do you have a link about "agreed to let Bernie run"? Jim Lane Nov 2017 #323

No resolution that I know of. It's an obvious thing. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #390

I disagree, because the Democratic Party is not a private boys' club. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #392

The DNC controls who is on the ticket. Ted Cruz can't run for the Dem Party primary.nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #396

I believe that to be incorrect. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #434

What's with the resolution fixation? Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #435

I don't know about "fixation", but there are two reasons I'm curious. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #440

I don't know about all that. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #441

Then why was he so concerned about the DNC debates if he could have done R B Garr Nov 2017 #391

Please try to focus. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #393

Yes, I've seen the pointless Clinton/DNC bashing at JPR, but why focus only on the DNC when the R B Garr Nov 2017 #404

I think you make perfect sense, Jim Lane. FourScore Nov 2017 #453

Your argument is with Skinner PDittie Nov 2017 #205

He's a democratic socialist who caucuses more TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #212

Exactly. CentralMass Nov 2017 #457

Sounds like MAJOR sour grapes and excuse-making. George II Nov 2017 #179

Is what Donna Brazile wrote true? Jim Lane Nov 2017 #330

Nobody knows for sure, the book hasn't even been released yet. What we're seeing is.... George II Nov 2017 #334

I don't know for sure that the Sun will rise tomorrow. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #336

The sun doesn't rise, the earth rotates. George II Nov 2017 #344

Ah, that's what they'd LIKE you to believe. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #362

Never been a fan of DB. Part of the problem, not the solution. democratisphere Nov 2017 #182

Trump needs the cover BainsBane Nov 2017 #184

In reality then... sagesnow Nov 2017 #186

Were "Bernie and his gang" offered the same deal that the Clinton campaign got? Jim Lane Nov 2017 #340

This is the paragraph that describes the problem. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #190

Put it in context of the prior paragraph. It doesnt mean what you think it does. boston bean Nov 2017 #199

Here are the four paragraphs prior to the one I quoted. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #213

Exactly, the prior paragraphs showed that Clinton was doing all the fund raising, R B Garr Nov 2017 #227

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Oooooo. That's dynamite. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #193

Thanks for posting without spin bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #195

Well she got a book to sell ... just disgraceful Fullduplexxx Nov 2017 #198

Is what she wrote true? Jim Lane Nov 2017 #342

Wonkette says she is not correct Fullduplexxx Nov 2017 #376

Wonkette says no such thing. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #431

What about donna herself Fullduplexxx Nov 2017 #459

Brazile had next to no credibility left on DU Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #207

So now you are throwing her under the bus? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #302

You must be new here Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #379

What a load of BS. What? I screamed. "I had promised Bernie..." "So I followed the money..." Nitram Nov 2017 #208

Nice timing. Who does this help again? Jim Dandy Nov 2017 #209

Democratic party members only from now on thanks... stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #216

In other words, Clinton saved the Democratic party from financial ruin, KitSileya Nov 2017 #221

Inside HRC's bailout of broke DNC and limiting incompetent Wasserman-Schultz's spendthrift ways. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #222

FUCK THIS, you don't get to rewrite history krawhitham Nov 2017 #231

Thank you. MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #240

This from April 2016 seems to cast a lot of doubt about these charges ehrnst Nov 2017 #242

Supposing for a second that all of this is true Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2017 #244

Here is another take... Beantighe Nov 2017 #246

Thanks for the reality check. And welcome to Democratic Underground! n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #343

Thanks pnwmom! eom Beantighe Nov 2017 #395

The posts here read as if they come from a party incapable of self-correcting virtualobserver Nov 2017 #260

... emulatorloo Nov 2017 #297

Exactly. azmom Nov 2017 #319

Thank you, Omaha Steve saidsimplesimon Nov 2017 #265

"It is not in my nature to "trust" anyone who makes a living working party politics." emulatorloo Nov 2017 #311

CNN headline now... Beantighe Nov 2017 #269

Could also be named How Clinton helped the DNC retire debt and raise funds... Fresh_Start Nov 2017 #279

Exactly. Kind of like the way she is condemned for having a husband who started a global charity StevieM Nov 2017 #300

...and bought a primary. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #303

Bullshit. KitSileya Nov 2017 #316

Except, not bullshit. WoonTars Nov 2017 #359

"Inside Hillary's Rescue of a Bankrupt Democratic Party" by Donna Brazille. pnwmom Nov 2017 #310

yes, that should be the headline OKNancy Nov 2017 #326

+ 1 musette_sf Nov 2017 #338

But that would mean it was bankrupted by... vi5 Nov 2017 #346

No, it wouldn't. Obama didn't run the party. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #347

No wonder we lost. What a clusterfuck! Nt azmom Nov 2017 #317

SHOCKED! A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2017 #333

I see the republican/Russian plan on strife/division/defeat for the democratic party workinclasszero Nov 2017 #349

THANK YOU! You are NOT alone! VOX Nov 2017 #383

It's big on freakrepublic right now... workinclasszero Nov 2017 #423

Do you blame the original actors, or the truthful public disclosure of what they did? Jim Lane Nov 2017 #444

Timing is everything workinclasszero Nov 2017 #445

See!!! I knew it!!! WoonTars Nov 2017 #354

If you bailed out the DNC, would you not expect a controlling interest? ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #357

Then they should have put a sign on the front door -- "Under New Management" Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #364

You have a point ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #367

or she could of raised money for the dnc and let them use it fairly questionseverything Nov 2017 #377

She did raise money for the DNC ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #397

umm u just said it wasnt "fair" questionseverything Nov 2017 #398

Notice the sarcastic use of quotation marks? nt ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #402

Did you really say that? Curmudgeoness Nov 2017 #369

That is not what I wrote ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #371

Well, yes it seems that is what you wrote. Curmudgeoness Nov 2017 #400

Thanks, Donna Brazile, for binding wounds and making us stronger to battle the Russian coup. VOX Nov 2017 #378

Thanks, Steve. elleng Nov 2017 #381

Missing facts emulatorloo Nov 2017 #403

We O'Malley supporters recall both of these. elleng Nov 2017 #407

Yes, me too. Both were covered in Politico. But Donna forgot I guess emulatorloo Nov 2017 #409

Seems obvious... fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #382

Who cares what Donna Brazils says or thinks. Polly Hennessey Nov 2017 #385

This is all the Dem Party needs now. More division. 4 more years of Republican rule and Trump. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2017 #386

Me too. It's beating a dead horse, Ilsa Nov 2017 #425

Omaha or Odessa? Jakes Progress Nov 2017 #401

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Nov 2017 #414

This is a really interesting article. PatrickforO Nov 2017 #415

Wish I could like this post. It summarizes my thoughts, perfectly. Tatiana Nov 2017 #417

k&r joet67 Nov 2017 #420

So what is the secret exactly???? This is kinda like Sessions admitting he lied. Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #426

Donna will not be welcomed in the African American community underthematrix Nov 2017 #427

OK, let's be blunt DonCoquixote Nov 2017 #436

Thread... fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #442

ask voters how much anything the DNC did influenced their decision bigtree Nov 2017 #446

Or not... fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #454