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43. Obama was also pretty darned good. :) Remember the enormous forces

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 05:35 PM

Nov 2017

ranged against him and the party in general, including most media. But competence and being on the side of our constitutional structure won through.

I believe history in hindsight will reveal the true incompetence of the extremists who took over the GOP in pursuit of hegemony over the entire nation. Extremists have ruthlessness in plenty, but extremism is intrinsically dysfunctional. Just for one, they believe their own lies, and that's a huge weakness.

And like you I'm sick for our great loss. Hillary would have built and built good on what we started. When Rep. Henrietta Wilson said, “I said — I'm a school principal — and I said, excuse my French, 'Aw, hell no, we're going to get this done," I thought of Hillary. It may sound sexist, but just like a really good woman school principal, she'd get things done. No nonsense.

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God fucking damnit I am so fucking sick of the Hillary hate from the right and the left. [View all] boston bean Nov 2017 OP

I know. It has gotten very, very old lunatica Nov 2017 #1

Old... and predictable. It's always the same ones, over and over. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #3

But it works so very well. Beartracks Nov 2017 #37

It got "old" about 20 months ago. It could only have one result and indeed it did. GeneMcM Nov 2017 #116

I agree. Aristus Nov 2017 #2

I am learning that we should never underestimate the hatred the American people Squinch Nov 2017 #4

I am sick of that shit too workinclasszero Nov 2017 #5

Predictable because her book and her gig on the talk show circuit... LisaM Nov 2017 #6

Not only that, murielm99 Nov 2017 #58

Let it go. Discussions are not bashing.Right bashes all dems onit2day Nov 2017 #91

sadly, yes handmade34 Nov 2017 #7

I couldn't agree more! mcar Nov 2017 #8

k and r + many gazillion!!!!!!! niyad Nov 2017 #9

+1000 triron Nov 2017 #88

+1,000 times another 1,000,000. calimary Nov 2017 #111

Exactly! themaguffin Nov 2017 #10

She is hated on the left because she did not step aside when a Johnny-Come-Lately showed up. LonePirate Nov 2017 #11

CORRECT Skittles Nov 2017 #12

Who did his damage as a short time "Democrat" and has left the party again. themaguffin Nov 2017 #14

Is continuing to do damage. murielm99 Nov 2017 #61

I half suspect he has an agreement with the GOP. They leave his wife alone for her scam so long as GeneMcM Nov 2017 #117

Bernie did not leave the Rincewind Nov 2017 #86

So he used the party, has no invested interest in the party & attacks the party and themaguffin Nov 2017 #94

And had Bernie won the nomination... maddiemom Nov 2017 #100

You are so right. comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #18

+100000 NT EllieBC Nov 2017 #57

Yep. joshcryer Nov 2017 #59

+1000 NEDem Nov 2017 #66

The message for women is loud and clear. EllieBC Nov 2017 #73

Exactly. +1 liquid diamond Nov 2017 #80

Correct. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #87

At the very least, we need closed primaries. murielm99 Nov 2017 #119

Exactly. nt Maven Nov 2017 #96

Well said!!! hamsterjill Nov 2017 #98

and yet, that misogyny is vehemently denied. the deniers insist that their hatred is based niyad Nov 2017 #107

THANK YOU. calimary Nov 2017 #113

Yeah. Exactly ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #13

Been going on for over 20 yrs. what are you going to do? Thrill Nov 2017 #15

Beg our republican overlords for a few scraps from the masters table? workinclasszero Nov 2017 #17

K & R SunSeeker Nov 2017 #16

I am sick of it as well, Boston. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #19

The world seems terrified of smart able women in power DFW Nov 2017 #20

And she has been for 30 years. Hamlette Nov 2017 #21

I hate her because she killed Vince Foster with her HAARP earthquake satellite. Orrex Nov 2017 #22

Me too. There is far too much rear-view-mirror hate concerning 2016. Gore1FL Nov 2017 #23

Well, yes. And what ruined my lunch was that some of them are right here now. Hekate Nov 2017 #24

Yes. Some of them are paid, some do it for pleasure. Hortensis Nov 2017 #42

And some are probably doing it from Russia EOM The Mouth Nov 2017 #65

For sure! Those are SOME of those paid come to work here. Hortensis Nov 2017 #68

Best damn Dem ever Miigwech Nov 2017 #25

Obama was also pretty darned good. :) Remember the enormous forces Hortensis Nov 2017 #43

If you're born a woman and assert a right to anything Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #26

I am just sick to death of last year get the red out Nov 2017 #27

I've been flabbergasted tenisfin Nov 2017 #28

They probably would hold males to that standard Calculating Nov 2017 #32

and these are some of the same assholes who applaud the reichwing women who stay niyad Nov 2017 #108

Welcome to DU, tenisfin! calimary Nov 2017 #114

I wake up every morning with... 3catwoman3 Nov 2017 #29

Thank You Jim Dandy Nov 2017 #30

The Clintons were the epicenter of right wing hate radio from the beginning bronxiteforever Nov 2017 #31

liberals/dems have no clue they're still getting their asses kicked by talk radio certainot Nov 2017 #36

K&R... spanone Nov 2017 #33

Hillary haters have their own forum Phentex Nov 2017 #34

HRC sent a Representative to my rural, redneck county when sagesnow Nov 2017 #35

I heard that from two other deep red areas. coolsandy Nov 2017 #79

Thanks...couldn't say it better Sancho Nov 2017 #38

K&R NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #39

I valiantly tried defending HRC against a local Socialist last night. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2017 #40

he's probably working for putin elmac Nov 2017 #64

Did you get the Gish Gallop? ehrnst Nov 2017 #102

Why DID Brazile choose THIS time to release this? Hortensis Nov 2017 #41

I wonder if the reason could be as simple as attention seeking? BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #85

Poor character. The record shows she lied repeatedly throughout Hortensis Nov 2017 #92

You, Go Hortensis! maddiemom Nov 2017 #103

Maybe read again? Clinton is a good pol who tries to influence Hortensis Nov 2017 #105

Sorry. Your pronouns were a little vague. maddiemom Nov 2017 #115

Yes, they were. And I have a tendency to run-on sentences, Hortensis Nov 2017 #118

No apologies needed. maddiemom Nov 2017 #120

Lol. Done ranting here too. Hortensis Nov 2017 #121

I agree with the intent........... davidmp Nov 2017 #44

I couldn't agree more Tribalceltic Nov 2017 #45

Time to move on, folks left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #46

You are asking me??? boston bean Nov 2017 #49

But it really lines the pockets of some. ehrnst Nov 2017 #47

Seems valid to me. David__77 Nov 2017 #82

I backed Bernie, voted for Clinton and I believe 100 percent Election 2016 was rigged. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2017 #48

I agree completely. SalviaBlue Nov 2017 #112

My thoughts exactly. MontanaMama Nov 2017 #50

Yes, well said. It's beyond irrational. nt R B Garr Nov 2017 #51

Please if you see these kind of posts don't open kacekwl Nov 2017 #52

I echo your sentiment... Beantighe Nov 2017 #53

I agree! SCVDem Nov 2017 #54

And thank you, Elizabeth Warren for jumping in Lulu KC Nov 2017 #55

Ditto. K&r spooky3 Nov 2017 #56

that the general election was rigged.... tomp Nov 2017 #60

same ol circular firing squad and old news at that elmac Nov 2017 #62

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #63

I agree. CaptainTruth Nov 2017 #67

Have Russian trolls Perseus Nov 2017 #69

The GOP is falling back on what has worked for years. There is no excuse for Democratic voters. Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #70

K&R betsuni Nov 2017 #71

Me and I wish they would leave and form their own place to bash leftofcool Nov 2017 #72

Yeah, I'd love to stop talking about Hillary HopeAgain Nov 2017 #74

Me too shenmue Nov 2017 #75

I dont get it either. liquid diamond Nov 2017 #76

Agree. The Russians interferred in our elections and most Congressional Repugs do not care. This riversedge Nov 2017 #77

K&R Gothmog Nov 2017 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #81

yeah, lots of dems posted hillary hate. So sad. my own party hurt the woman candidate trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #83

She isnt the fucking president. roamer65 Nov 2017 #84

I was a big Bernie supporter, and I don't hate Hillary. PatrickforO Nov 2017 #89

Have you ever thought about just accepting that many don't like her? LittleBlue Nov 2017 #90

Good points. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #95

Have you considered that the hate for her was largely manufactured? Maven Nov 2017 #97

Well said! mcar Nov 2017 #99

and on what, exactly, do they base their dislike? you do know that she is one of the most niyad Nov 2017 #109

I agree! DDySiegs Nov 2017 #93

The hatred of the Clintons Funtatlaguy Nov 2017 #101

i agree...and she was the only dem running in the end of the primary.. samnsara Nov 2017 #104

Hillary hate? KPN Nov 2017 #106

Clinton is evil because she supported the Democratic party 100% financially and in word and action. Nitram Nov 2017 #110