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BainsBane

(57,760 posts)
25. Open about what?
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 11:10 PM
Nov 2017

That the votes of white men count more than the majority? That the Democratic Party and Democratic VOTERS have the audacity to prefer and vote for Democrats? That we dare to care about issues like reproductive rights, civil rights, and gun violence rather than pretending white men who earn more than 99.7% of the planet are exploited? That the Democratic Party dares to promote policies that direct resources to the most needy rather than the most entitled? That Democratic voters dared to vote for a competent and experienced candidate who was actually a Democrat?

The GOP didn’t want Trump to be the nominee. They did everything they could to stop him, but he still won. He won because a majority of Republicans turned out to support him. To pretend that a few emails signaling Democratic preference for an actual Democrat who had worked hard for the party for decades a non-Democrat was somehow determinative is a cop out.

Clinton won by 4 million votes. Her campaign invested in voter turnout, in local offices and organizers. Sanders spent the huge majority of his record-breaking fundraising haul on advertising, which has limited effectiveness at best. Of course he lost. How could he have done otherwise with that campaign strategy? Elections take a lot of hard work, drudging, daily doorknocking in snowstorms and the rain. Vigorous voter registration and turnout campaigns. That is how Clinton won, not because Kremlin hacked and altered emails show some DNC officials preferred her. The total 2016 fundraising of the DNC was 1/3 of what Sanders raised, and that money only came in when they opened donations up to corporate donors. The DNC was anemic, hardly capable of rigging an election.

The whole debate meme is bullshit as well. Eichenwald took apart all those myths months ago.
http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044 Emails, debates, one bullshit excuse after another. And that is what they are: excuses for failure.

This is the exact same shit the Kremlin pushed to put Trump in office. That we have public figures using Kremlin hacked and altered emails to curry favor with a self entitled minority is reprehensible.

Divide away. They want a war over control of the party, they’ve got it. I’ve held my tongue (held iin comparison to what I have thought). They want to refight their 4 million vote loss, they can have at it. They certainly have persuaded me of the consequences of their efforts. That is why I have the list of Our Rev endorsed candidates for my upcoming local elections, and I’m going to systematically vote for their opponents. And there are many more elections to come. Of course, that is why Nomiki Konst is so committed to replacing primaries with caucuses, so that the poor, people of color, shift workers, elderly, disabled, and women with childcare obstacles can’t participate. If they don’t surrender their votes to the self-entitled, they lose their rights. Then finally the Dem Party can get back to good old days of the 1930s, when only the right sort of people were represented.






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Well it ain't gonna work and things are still looking dire for tRUMP....every day even more so. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #1
He's my only focus. 24/7/365 nt SusanaMontana41 Nov 2017 #66
Unfortunately it's done plenty of damage GeneMcM Nov 2017 #72
I believe this was done on purpose. leftofcool Nov 2017 #76
Yeah man Glamrock Nov 2017 #2
It'll blow over if WE don't keep rehashing it. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #3
will that keep it out of the news alerts, headlines, Orange tweets and RNC/Bannon for the next 2yr GeneMcM Nov 2017 #73
That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw the headline for that Donna thing. kydo Nov 2017 #4
Yeppers. SergeStorms Nov 2017 #21
Yeah! Checking the TV between errands -- MSNBC discussing common sense and R B Garr Nov 2017 #5
Im glad I havent been watching BainsBane Nov 2017 #14
At least Rachel Maddow didnt bring it up. R B Garr Nov 2017 #38
Yes, it IS a pattern. NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #6
Things are still dire for Trump et al Nanjeanne Nov 2017 #7
Crap like weve seen today BainsBane Nov 2017 #8
There has to be Republican or Russian influence behind this. Kablooie Nov 2017 #9
I dont know BainsBane Nov 2017 #10
Oh Bull Shit! Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #22
You can't seriously be suggesting DB is working on behalf of the Russians... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #41
It perfectly fits the Putin Playbook; exactly like he did in 2016. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #62
Great analysis Spiranthes Nov 2017 #11
Could it be Russian or Republican trolls doing this? Then, how about Perseus Nov 2017 #12
Warren and Brazile cant be chalked up to Russians BainsBane Nov 2017 #13
No, but interestingly tho, if you think bout it, both here wud prolly lose their posting privileges. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #40
since big lie talk radio and putin's crew are selling the same shit, shouldn't investigators work certainot Nov 2017 #15
Donna Brazile wrote a book BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #16
Mediocre is putting it mildly. awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #52
Agreed BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #53
Well, this whole Donna Brazile thing is sad - a story of many good people making PatrickforO Nov 2017 #17
We don't wanna hang separately !! n/t Pluvious Nov 2017 #18
Well, the chase of $$$ always benefits the right wing. joshcryer Nov 2017 #19
We need to deal with all this now. Well before the 2018 elections. Or it will be applegrove Nov 2017 #20
Open about what? BainsBane Nov 2017 #25
+1000! mcar Nov 2017 #27
4 million? progressoid Nov 2017 #58
The threshold will never be reached BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #32
Glad to hear the DNC is under new management. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #34
Yes. DWS is no longer chair. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #36
No, but I think it's fair to ask: meet the new boss... same as the old boss?... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #39
research Perez before you push that "new boss old boss wont get fooled" cliche emulatorloo Nov 2017 #42
Yes boss... will do.. whatever you say boss! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #43
That would be said regardless and in perpetuity no matter who is in charge. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #45
Yup. That's the truth ... KPN Nov 2017 #47
There is nothing to deal with...the primary is over. The election is over... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #71
It is a DAMN OBVIOUS pattern!!! workinclasszero Nov 2017 #23
Pray tell, what "pattern"? HopeAgain Nov 2017 #24
One question BainsBane Nov 2017 #29
I would need specific examples of people HopeAgain Nov 2017 #44
Nina Turner BainsBane Nov 2017 #74
It sure is mcar Nov 2017 #26
Individual candidates will probably see a 2018 upside Not Ruth Nov 2017 #28
They always do BainsBane Nov 2017 #31
Russians stirring the ole Shitpot!,,,,, Cryptoad Nov 2017 #30
But Donna, though? That's just weird. yodermon Nov 2017 #33
Disappointing, for sure BainsBane Nov 2017 #46
As one who voted for Bernie and who then strongly supported Hillary Ukapau Nov 2017 #35
Astute observation. lpbk2713 Nov 2017 #37
Democrats need to reverse engineer their tactics and fight back bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #48
What ... a conspiracy? Guess I see it as KPN Nov 2017 #49
When you threaten the most powerful person in the world and that person also wiggs Nov 2017 #50
Donna seems like she was vulnerable to blackmail WhiteTara Nov 2017 #51
Thanks Donna and Lizzie. Nitram Nov 2017 #54
And how ironic is that Brazile's rusty fender Nov 2017 #55
but there is no interference, correct? and no coincidence. niyad Nov 2017 #56
The Dem primary isn't distracting Mueller. liberalnarb Nov 2017 #57
It is a blip on the radar, nothing more Tarc Nov 2017 #59
Helo Russia Repugs. lark Nov 2017 #60
A Putin Pattern lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #61
Yep. Scurrilous Nov 2017 #63
Things remain dire for Trump Progressive dog Nov 2017 #64
Donna Brazille does not need to be a Russian agent DonCoquixote Nov 2017 #65
She now denies saying it BainsBane Nov 2017 #70
the foot kissing DonCoquixote Nov 2017 #75
Okay BainsBane Nov 2017 #78
I know, right? Cary Nov 2017 #67
We dems need to "cooperate and graduate". That was a saying in high school back in the day... iluvtennis Nov 2017 #68
Thank you! I'm quite annoyed with us and how we keep helping out 45 bitterross Nov 2017 #69
Divide and conquered us is the only way the Reich wing wins kimbutgar Nov 2017 #77
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