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GeneMcM

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43. sorry but no

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:27 PM

Nov 2017

Anyone who is over 30 knows that you don't run to the left in general elections. He entered the line-up for the money and then when he became the darling of the far left looking for their latest spoiler, his ego got away from him. He took it too far nd it's not forgivable to me. You can do that maybe if you control Congress, or state legislatures, or the SCOTUS isn't in the balance. But when a Dem Presidency is your last line of defense, no excuse. He was damned sure old enough to know better. But hey, he got his adulation, and the GOP sent him plenty of those "small donations" and he's got several homes now and his wife is probably off the hook at least so long as he keeps attacking democrats and organizing spoiler efforts. Not bad for a guy who used to siphon his neighbors electricity.

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Here's why I don't think Bernie will run in 2020-and a way of making sure he doesn't. [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2017 OP

I gotta be honest, Bernie would smoke Kamala Harris JDC Nov 2017 #1

agree. juxtaposed Nov 2017 #3

I'm not so sure about that. PragmaticLiberal Nov 2017 #27

I think you are right. comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #35

you'd be right not to be. I get the feeling people supporting Sanders/Warren are white uber left who GeneMcM Nov 2017 #42

Your feeling is wrong. pangaia Nov 2017 #60

You tell me all about it. GeneMcM Nov 2017 #62

Lol. Brava ! pangaia Nov 2017 #65

It's not like we'd have won the Wisconsin Senate race if only we'd gone with a bland centrist. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #74

I supported Bernie, and would have supported Warren, woodsprite Nov 2017 #64

so therefor that means that milions and millions of people will despite all evidence to the contrary GeneMcM Nov 2017 #66

At what point did everybody decide that POC are to the right of white leftists? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #73

Lived in Texas all my life PDittie Nov 2017 #78

yes... fallout87 Nov 2017 #29

First of all I do not think Bernie will run in 2020, but not because of the "age factor" as the OP still_one Nov 2017 #53

Agree with you except the ego part. kstewart33 Nov 2017 #2

I never saw his ego jumping around as much as you just stated? He never said he will be my juxtaposed Nov 2017 #5

He probably won't. For one thing: Aristus Nov 2017 #4

He wasn't running to keep Hillary out and it's not his fault that we got Trump. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #6

Well said! silverweb Nov 2017 #8

That he did...he implored his supporters but the simple fact is he stayed in the race too long. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #25

in light fallout87 Nov 2017 #30

Yes I can and I did at the time. He should of gotten out when it stopped being viable...and he Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #34

We're not going to get there by refusing to ever run on those ideas. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #75

He stayed in for technical / practical reasons RandomAccess Nov 2017 #39

sorry but no GeneMcM Nov 2017 #43

Agreed. dreamland Nov 2017 #52

+++++ pangaia Nov 2017 #58

He can run again if he liquid diamond Nov 2017 #7

I think there are many Democratic banners. David__77 Nov 2017 #9

Who is 'we' when you write "We beat him once and will do so again" aikoaiko Nov 2017 #15

Those of us who don't buy into bernie's pipedream message, that's who onetexan Nov 2017 #36

+1 liquid diamond Nov 2017 #41

It's pretty obvious. Take a look at recent threads about the independent. liquid diamond Nov 2017 #40

Bernie is plenty popular among Democrats. That's why I want to know who we is. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #50

Exactly...he is popular in some quarters...but I think less and less with Democrats based on some Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #45

I think it'll depend on who else is running & that person's stance on issues as a populist candidate InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #67

Harris won't run in 2020 Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #10

That consensus has already changed GaryCnf Nov 2017 #33

I find the death penalty an abomination...and pray it ends soon . Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #46

That is true to a point Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #54

I think that is a fair point GaryCnf Nov 2017 #77

That is what pissed me off about Kaine Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #80

He was never running in 2020 Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #11

He did not change his registration. He couldn't. Vermont doesn't have partisan registration. (n/t) Jim Lane Nov 2017 #13

He did go back to being an independent...you can belong to a party regardless of registration Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #47

I'm so tired of this. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #70

I honestly believe it. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #16

Oh, good Lord! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #12

Yes, SOMEBODY help! NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #14

What matters is making sure he doesn't run and we aren't divided. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #18

Good lord WHAT? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #17

Nice try... but... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #19

The result of the primaries doesn't mean we can't ever debate ideas again. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #21

Not buying it. I'm smarter than you give me credit for. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #22

Not buying what? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #24

Asked and answered. Lather rinse repeat. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #37

Good grief Ken, give it a rest. NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #20

If only. Wouldn't that be nice? NurseJackie Nov 2017 #69

It feels like we cave (and I don't disagree with most of his message) or else... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #48

Not cave. Each side meets the other halfway. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #76

I am pretty sure that Bernie will run again. Biden is also a possible candidate, although a little StevieM Nov 2017 #23

There's no good reason for Bernie or Biden to run. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #26

Warren is 2 years younger than Clinton. Hardly a "newer generation". n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2017 #32

I don't think todays voters will consider delisen Nov 2017 #28

Amen! GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #38

I agree...and Sherrod has a shitload of Koch money coming against him. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #49

Maybe it should be: "Just Us for the Many" coolsandy Nov 2017 #31

Oh so we adopt his ideas that were not sufficient for him to win a nomination and he doesn't run... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #44

Kamala would be smart to wait until 2024. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #51

He will run. Your insistence that he won't just shows how little you know him lunamagica Nov 2017 #55

I disagree. 2016 was about ego. nt ecstatic Nov 2017 #56

I will just say I agree 100% I don't think Bernie wanted to run. pangaia Nov 2017 #57

Boo hoo UT_democrat Nov 2017 #59

LOL PDittie Nov 2017 #79

he had better NOT run again... chillfactor Nov 2017 #61

He's running. More photo ops and tours than time in DC. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #63

This thread is good for one thing: growing an ignore list. woodsprite Nov 2017 #68

I agree that we need to focus on 2018. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #72

2020 will be a convoluted shit show madville Nov 2017 #71