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Ken Burch

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73. At what point did everybody decide that POC are to the right of white leftists?

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:59 AM

Nov 2017

POC objected to Bernie(and had reason to do so) because they didn't trust him to speak out against racism. They haven't turned into economic royalists for God's sakes.

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Here's why I don't think Bernie will run in 2020-and a way of making sure he doesn't. [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2017 OP

I gotta be honest, Bernie would smoke Kamala Harris JDC Nov 2017 #1

agree. juxtaposed Nov 2017 #3

I'm not so sure about that. PragmaticLiberal Nov 2017 #27

I think you are right. comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #35

you'd be right not to be. I get the feeling people supporting Sanders/Warren are white uber left who GeneMcM Nov 2017 #42

Your feeling is wrong. pangaia Nov 2017 #60

You tell me all about it. GeneMcM Nov 2017 #62

Lol. Brava ! pangaia Nov 2017 #65

It's not like we'd have won the Wisconsin Senate race if only we'd gone with a bland centrist. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #74

I supported Bernie, and would have supported Warren, woodsprite Nov 2017 #64

so therefor that means that milions and millions of people will despite all evidence to the contrary GeneMcM Nov 2017 #66

At what point did everybody decide that POC are to the right of white leftists? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #73

Lived in Texas all my life PDittie Nov 2017 #78

yes... fallout87 Nov 2017 #29

First of all I do not think Bernie will run in 2020, but not because of the "age factor" as the OP still_one Nov 2017 #53

Agree with you except the ego part. kstewart33 Nov 2017 #2

I never saw his ego jumping around as much as you just stated? He never said he will be my juxtaposed Nov 2017 #5

He probably won't. For one thing: Aristus Nov 2017 #4

He wasn't running to keep Hillary out and it's not his fault that we got Trump. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #6

Well said! silverweb Nov 2017 #8

That he did...he implored his supporters but the simple fact is he stayed in the race too long. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #25

in light fallout87 Nov 2017 #30

Yes I can and I did at the time. He should of gotten out when it stopped being viable...and he Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #34

We're not going to get there by refusing to ever run on those ideas. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #75

He stayed in for technical / practical reasons RandomAccess Nov 2017 #39

sorry but no GeneMcM Nov 2017 #43

Agreed. dreamland Nov 2017 #52

+++++ pangaia Nov 2017 #58

He can run again if he liquid diamond Nov 2017 #7

I think there are many Democratic banners. David__77 Nov 2017 #9

Who is 'we' when you write "We beat him once and will do so again" aikoaiko Nov 2017 #15

Those of us who don't buy into bernie's pipedream message, that's who onetexan Nov 2017 #36

+1 liquid diamond Nov 2017 #41

It's pretty obvious. Take a look at recent threads about the independent. liquid diamond Nov 2017 #40

Bernie is plenty popular among Democrats. That's why I want to know who we is. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #50

Exactly...he is popular in some quarters...but I think less and less with Democrats based on some Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #45

I think it'll depend on who else is running & that person's stance on issues as a populist candidate InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #67

Harris won't run in 2020 Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #10

That consensus has already changed GaryCnf Nov 2017 #33

I find the death penalty an abomination...and pray it ends soon . Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #46

That is true to a point Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #54

I think that is a fair point GaryCnf Nov 2017 #77

That is what pissed me off about Kaine Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #80

He was never running in 2020 Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #11

He did not change his registration. He couldn't. Vermont doesn't have partisan registration. (n/t) Jim Lane Nov 2017 #13

He did go back to being an independent...you can belong to a party regardless of registration Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #47

I'm so tired of this. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #70

I honestly believe it. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #16

Oh, good Lord! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #12

Yes, SOMEBODY help! NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #14

What matters is making sure he doesn't run and we aren't divided. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #18

Good lord WHAT? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #17

Nice try... but... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #19

The result of the primaries doesn't mean we can't ever debate ideas again. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #21

Not buying it. I'm smarter than you give me credit for. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #22

Not buying what? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #24

Asked and answered. Lather rinse repeat. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #37

Good grief Ken, give it a rest. NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #20

If only. Wouldn't that be nice? NurseJackie Nov 2017 #69

It feels like we cave (and I don't disagree with most of his message) or else... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #48

Not cave. Each side meets the other halfway. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #76

I am pretty sure that Bernie will run again. Biden is also a possible candidate, although a little StevieM Nov 2017 #23

There's no good reason for Bernie or Biden to run. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #26

Warren is 2 years younger than Clinton. Hardly a "newer generation". n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2017 #32

I don't think todays voters will consider delisen Nov 2017 #28

Amen! GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #38

I agree...and Sherrod has a shitload of Koch money coming against him. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #49

Maybe it should be: "Just Us for the Many" coolsandy Nov 2017 #31

Oh so we adopt his ideas that were not sufficient for him to win a nomination and he doesn't run... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #44

Kamala would be smart to wait until 2024. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #51

He will run. Your insistence that he won't just shows how little you know him lunamagica Nov 2017 #55

I disagree. 2016 was about ego. nt ecstatic Nov 2017 #56

I will just say I agree 100% I don't think Bernie wanted to run. pangaia Nov 2017 #57

Boo hoo UT_democrat Nov 2017 #59

LOL PDittie Nov 2017 #79

he had better NOT run again... chillfactor Nov 2017 #61

He's running. More photo ops and tours than time in DC. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #63

This thread is good for one thing: growing an ignore list. woodsprite Nov 2017 #68

I agree that we need to focus on 2018. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #72

2020 will be a convoluted shit show madville Nov 2017 #71