Would you rather of had Bernie run for President as an independent?!

[LostOne4Ever]

134. From my point of view, the purity tests havent been from the liberals on this site

But from the centrists.

All the intolerant far leftist permanently left this site for JPR and voted Jill Stein. The “far left” liberals on here are all like me- voted Sanders in the primary and Clinton in the General. We complain a lot, but are no purists.

That said, I have seen attack after attack upon Bernie and his supporters for not toeing the line. Bernie is attacked over and over and over for not being a democrat. He/we are attacked over and over and over for any perceived deviation from the party line. For instance, one of the few issues where he was to the right of Clinton was on guns. Yet we are called the purists?

I and many like me had issues with Moderate nominees like Clinton, Kerry, and others before them. And honestly, Clinton wasn’t that far from Sanders. Regardless, We held our noses and voted for them. How purist is that? Bernie even endorsed and stumped for Clinton over and over again! Where is the purist in that?

But, on the other hand, how many people have been supporting things like super delegates? A tool to keep liberal upstarts out? It seems to me that if there is an intolerance here it is against strong liberal candidates like Sanders.

And I disagree about liberal candidates can’t win. Obama won, and he was to the left of Clinton. It goes back to the idea that a hard right or hard left canadite can’t win. Trump shattered that idea.

I firmly believe that a part of the reason we lost States that went to Obama was that there was a strong mood in the country against your typical politician. It wasn’t about experience or ideology but being different. Sometimes there are election years like that. For a long time only governors could get elected because they were Washington outsiders.

Each year, what the people want changes slightly. It is entirely possible that after Trump people will want a polished politician in 2020 rather than another potentially inept outsider. Or, they may want someone as ideologically different from Trump as possible. The former case hurts a Bernie like canadite, and the latter helps them. We have to listen to the people and give them what they want.

Maybe that will be a strong liberal. Maybe it will be a moderate. We need to let the party decide. Having canadite like Bernie only gives us more options and chances to win. Thus going back to the original point of the thread: Bernie running as an independent would have only hurt us.

That is what I love most about Sanders and HATE about Stein. He did it the right way. He worked for change through the dem party and was a team player when he lost. Stein tried to give the election to the repigs and depending on how many of her supporters would have voted dem had she not run... quite possibly succeeded.

So again, how many of the “yes” posters in this thread have also attacked Stein? Cause if they have, then the good of the party isn’t their real concern...