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hack89

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39. Why should any Dem fear OWS?

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 08:19 AM

Jul 2012

if they have any impact on the election, it will be to reelect Democrats. That is my point - OWS says they are about change. Yet everything they do will put the same politicians back in power.

So I have no real problem with OWS now that it is clear what path we are on and that it is clear what impact they will have on the election.

On edit: Just to be clear, I have never had a problem with the issues OWS fights for. I agree with most of them. My only issue was from a purely political perspective - I did not want them damaging election prospects for Democrats in November. That is no longer a concern.

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Occupy vs the Anti-Social Justice Movement [View all] Zorra Jul 2012 OP

There is a reason the Occupy forum was created. randome Jul 2012 #1

Why? This is a topic that is of general interest. white_wolf Jul 2012 #2

The reason the Occupy forum was created was because of last year. randome Jul 2012 #5

Cop-out. Most subjects are divisive, most that are not aren't going to drive any dialog. TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #8

Absolutely incorrect. OWS is the most popular topic on DU and the forum was created sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #30

The OWS forum was not created for the reasons you just gave. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #33

Lame, and disingenuous, attempt at hiding the truth. nt Zorra Jul 2012 #3

Oh yes, I am so afraid of the truth. randome Jul 2012 #4

Hi Randome, imagine meeting you in yet another OWS thread! sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #29

That's what I thought of the OP. pintobean Jul 2012 #34

I'm shocked! nt Zorra Jul 2012 #49

Why would an OP about one of the most popular topics on DU not belong here? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #28

Not being part of your black and white cartoon world hack89 Jul 2012 #6

Getting Dems elected is definitely a good thing. Zorra Jul 2012 #7

I think it is less that Dems want OWS to fail hack89 Jul 2012 #9

Are you kidding? OWS has totally changed the game. Zalatix Jul 2012 #10

And all the politicians promptly co-opted that message hack89 Jul 2012 #11

Oh for crying out loud. Read and be informed. Zalatix Jul 2012 #12

So a self congratulatory puff piece on a progressive web site hack89 Jul 2012 #13

Let me guess, you'll spin doctor this away, too? Zalatix Jul 2012 #14

It is good because it will get Obama elected hack89 Jul 2012 #16

OWS is making Dem politicians change their tune. Zalatix Jul 2012 #19

Are they true believers or political opportunists? hack89 Jul 2012 #38

Several elected Dems are members of OWS. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #32

Why should any Dem fear OWS? hack89 Jul 2012 #39

You must get a lot of exercise moving those goalposts. Zalatix Jul 2012 #43

I have changed my perspective on OWS hack89 Jul 2012 #44

Yes, I agree that helping Dems is a good idea. Zalatix Jul 2012 #46

But OWS will also help moderate and Blue Dog Dems hack89 Jul 2012 #47

They'll affect the primaries. Zalatix Jul 2012 #48

Or maybe you'll find a way to handwave away this? Zalatix Jul 2012 #15

Anything that keeps Dems in power is a good thing hack89 Jul 2012 #18

There were many many Democrats at the Occupy marches Generic Other Jul 2012 #20

Yes - never said it was not hack89 Jul 2012 #37

Lol, 'don't see the results' What 'results' would those be? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #31

The American people have not gone global hack89 Jul 2012 #36

Yawn! sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #41

Since OWS will re-elect Democrats, I really have no problem with them hack89 Jul 2012 #42

"Last November's election is an example of this." 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #21

Um, ya know...you just might wanna think about that statement some more. Zorra Jul 2012 #51

Ha, ok 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #52

Ok. I'm done with you. Election Day 2011: In State After State, "Remarkable Wins for Progressives" Zorra Jul 2012 #54

But it's a social movement! 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #55

"The Democratic Party has traditionally been the party of labor, of the people." Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #27

Do you believe that Thomas Jefferson, considered the founder of the Democratic Party, Zorra Jul 2012 #53

I think we've hit on the problem, neither party has consistently advocated for us in our history. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #56

Third Way corproatist BS. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #23

So you oppose electing Democrats to office? Ok. nt hack89 Jul 2012 #35

Support me or you stand with the terro. . . er corporatists! 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #17

No. Poor analogy. Zorra Jul 2012 #22

Whatever you say captain! When shall the waterboarding begin? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #24

Over-dramatize much? Zalatix Jul 2012 #45

I was on that bridge UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #25

Thanks! Zorra Jul 2012 #50

A lovely thread thank you. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #26

DU Rec. woo me with science Jul 2012 #40