General Discussion

BigmanPigman

(55,499 posts)

237. I agree. I heard that the classroom in Sandy Hook

Sun Nov 5, 2017, 09:06 PM

Nov 2017

was so terrible that the seasoned professionals who had seen everything before this were throwing up. If they show the casualties of war battles why can't they show this? I understand that it is horrific and the families obviously do not want to see it AGAIN. However, visuals are VERY important and if the awful but very real scenes of theses attacks were shown then perhaps more people would not think of it as a distant incident that happened elsewhere to someone else. Visuals bring a new and very real dimension to the crime. If you see a POW being tortured in Vietnam that stays in your "mind's eye". It effects you. If you see the photos from Auschwitz that stays with you. Eventually it will have some effect on the male gender's current love affair with their semi automatic phalluses.....maybe?

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

252 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Breaking : Fatalities in TX mass shootings..UPDATED [View all] HipChick Nov 2017 OP

Ugh SHRED Nov 2017 #1

Media outlets are carrying little detail..so far..but 15, including children are among the dead.. HipChick Nov 2017 #3

A town with a population of about 900. stollen Nov 2017 #105

omg HipChick Nov 2017 #106

Watch that live feed....."lost half their church" stollen Nov 2017 #124

6 year old boy shot 4 times, fighting for his life stollen Nov 2017 #169

I can't believe guys at the podium are laughing/smiling stollen Nov 2017 #182

At least for a little while sir, me and her we had us some fun loyalsister Nov 2017 #222

The sheriff is a nut stollen Nov 2017 #224

I'll take your word for it loyalsister Nov 2017 #233

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #206

This message was self-deleted by its author stollen Nov 2017 #127

Is it still too soon to talk about gun control? Dulcinea Nov 2017 #110

It's beyond pathetic, even silly now that the NRA and repugs continue to be able to suppress... brush Nov 2017 #210

MSNBC just said 25 killed including children katmondoo Nov 2017 #132

With 50 people injured or killed... forgotmylogin Nov 2017 #239

Oh no shenmue Nov 2017 #2

Now, now, let's not all starting talking or thinking or writing about this! hatrack Nov 2017 #4

Not again malaise Nov 2017 #5

They are not going anywhere ...just on ice for a few..marinating. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #14

True malaise Nov 2017 #19

That's pretty cold. pintobean Nov 2017 #59

That's a tall ladder to climb when even Texans don't seem to think so. Aristus Nov 2017 #75

Give the Texas-bashing a rest, OK? Paladin Nov 2017 #142

You are absolutely right, Paladin SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #152

+1 Hangingon Nov 2017 #154

I was born and raised in Texas. San Antonio, in fact. Aristus Nov 2017 #244

As you seem both comforted and confounded, I s'pose it works. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #250

Guess what malaise Nov 2017 #179

That has nothing to do with the post I replied to pintobean Nov 2017 #188

America will ignore this as a "big story" No new league records set. We've seen church shootings too TeamPooka Nov 2017 #66

Why does somebody always say that? Codeine Nov 2017 #78

Are you really that shallow? obliviously Nov 2017 #100

I find it "interesting" that every time there is major Russia story, some shooting occurs. I put iluvtennis Nov 2017 #173

Guess what they are saying in Freeperville... GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #217

Your prophecy seems to have not worked out LanternWaste Nov 2017 #251

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/shooting-texas-baptist-church-sutherland-11473150 Rollo Nov 2017 #6

The nicer thing about the foreign news sources Turbineguy Nov 2017 #186

OMG! chillfactor Nov 2017 #7

This insanity was here before him and will be here after him unfortunately. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #15

Please GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #20

But he stokes anger. LisaM Nov 2017 #115

And the claim was that Obama did the same. Igel Nov 2017 #148

Obama (and Clinton) didn't want or feed off it, though. LisaM Nov 2017 #228

tr-dump is habitually and consistently.... magicarpet Nov 2017 #60

Yee-ha! Another NRA Rodeo Sunday... getting old n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #8

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #9

Probably, but the fact you admit it shows you're still sane. Nt moriah Nov 2017 #12

Hey. Its just the price we pay for the privilege of having the 2nd A. madinmaryland Nov 2017 #10

Yes Its Too Early to Talk About Gun Control Concerning Church and Too Late Re Las Vegas Stallion Nov 2017 #13

If they all had guns, everyone, wouldn't be a problem!!! RKP5637 Nov 2017 #85

We can't get.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #193

It's so F'ed up it's getting hard to describe it. We're truly living in an era of stupidity, greed RKP5637 Nov 2017 #197

Thoughts & Prayers Of NRA Members Will Bring Lives Back SoCalMusicLover Nov 2017 #11

Aw, shit! MineralMan Nov 2017 #16

Congress sends their regrets.. HipChick Nov 2017 #18

Thoughts and prayers, too, no doubt. MineralMan Nov 2017 #22

Because the NRA has them by the short and curlies.. HipChick Nov 2017 #24

Yeh-- their usual BS bromide ailsagirl Nov 2017 #242

First Baptist means African-American Church malaise Nov 2017 #17

Based on their Youtube Channel...mixed.. HipChick Nov 2017 #21

This church video records each service so today's mass BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #155

They need to release the video. joshcryer Nov 2017 #235

I agree. I heard that the classroom in Sandy Hook BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #237

It's understandable, though. joshcryer Nov 2017 #238

Don't think so. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #23

Incorrect, Googled that.... moriah Nov 2017 #25

Not necessarily. MineralMan Nov 2017 #26

Thanks all malaise Nov 2017 #30

Yup. In Texas, there are all sorts of Baptist churches. MineralMan Nov 2017 #33

All "First" means is they claimed to be the first Baptist church in the area. moriah Nov 2017 #43

Yes AME IS AfricanAmerican lunasun Nov 2017 #150

I figure they probably would let a white person worship there... moriah Nov 2017 #157

That is why I included the history of how it came to be. They could not pray with whites lunasun Nov 2017 #160

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #70

So this is sarisataka Nov 2017 #88

Look, I understand you and your gun buddies have a lot of splaining to do, but not what I said. Hoyt Nov 2017 #95

I have no splaining (sic) to do sarisataka Nov 2017 #101

I responded to the post that said this was an AA congregation. Not true. Lots of gun loving, Hoyt Nov 2017 #111

Interesting how I am sarisataka Nov 2017 #119

You do realize that there are a number of First Baptist churches that are primarily African American mythology Nov 2017 #221

What is your point with this post? cwydro Nov 2017 #114

My point is to correct the misconception of the person I replied to. The white Baptist congregations Hoyt Nov 2017 #120

Calm down. cwydro Nov 2017 #123

Typically the Southern Baptist congregation Horse with no Name Nov 2017 #156

Lily white First Baptist in my town mcar Nov 2017 #139

I grew up in Texas Baptist churches OriginalGeek Nov 2017 #147

Plenty in the south eom get the red out Nov 2017 #184

Not at all. My family was First Baptist. WAY white. nolabear Nov 2017 #27

We have two "Second Baptist Church"es in our town. moriah Nov 2017 #32

Yep. My folks in Baton Rouge are white first Baptists. Croney Nov 2017 #113

Really? You from the South? GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #28

I'm not from the south malaise Nov 2017 #31

You're from south beyond the South, I think. MineralMan Nov 2017 #36

And first Baptist would mean Afro-Jamaican malaise Nov 2017 #40

There's a Baptist church of one sort or another on just MineralMan Nov 2017 #50

Jamaica used to be in the Guinness Book of Records malaise Nov 2017 #54

An interesting juxtaposition. MineralMan Nov 2017 #56

Are you still there, or are you in the US now? Just curious. moriah Nov 2017 #55

I had not thought of Eternal September in a while. Yonnie3 Nov 2017 #133

Sorry Malaise. Did not even read who I was responding to GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #38

Whole heap malaise Nov 2017 #46

Huh, who knew. Would have guessed GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #49

If you ever knew the links with those Southern Churches and malaise Nov 2017 #52

My Grenadian friend is a (converted) Baptist. CottonBear Nov 2017 #76

Lots of folks have long left the CofE better known as HIgh CHurch among locals malaise Nov 2017 #90

Another curious thing to me... My mother converted *to* Episcopalian. ;) moriah Nov 2017 #170

I don't know the inner workings of any of them malaise Nov 2017 #174

it usually means d_r Nov 2017 #44

Not necessarily. You may be thinking of AME. bluepen Nov 2017 #65

Sutherland Springs is 95% white, so not likely. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #81

I was clearly wrong malaise Nov 2017 #108

Doesn't appear to be the Case Based on Their Website I looked At Stallion Nov 2017 #92

Not in general jberryhill Nov 2017 #134

Nah. I got married at a First Baptist and it certainly is white underpants Nov 2017 #151

Their facebook page looks lily white IronLionZion Nov 2017 #183

No, it doesn't. SharonClark Nov 2017 #187

Sutherland Springs Demographics- 94.4% White DesertRat Nov 2017 #191

The one my dad grew up in was 100% white. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #220

Just another day in the NRA's America! Initech Nov 2017 #29

Justheard 24 dead - WTF??? n/t malaise Nov 2017 #37

Well, it's a day that ends in a "y," so.... NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #34

Holy shit - they're saying 24 dead malaise Nov 2017 #35

Ive not heard MSNBC mention dead. Where did you hear 24 dead. KewlKat Nov 2017 #63

May be more but at least 24 people are dead including children malaise Nov 2017 #129

MSNBC now... sheshe2 Nov 2017 #213

Closer to 30 now malaise Nov 2017 #214

Dayum. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #218

was is a muslim or can we all go on about our business? Takket Nov 2017 #39

DU has frequently dropped discussion of shooting events, cwydro Nov 2017 #47

I don't think this was a muslim LeftInTX Nov 2017 #131

They are interviewing a witness on CNN who said word is he was a relative of a local family. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #158

+1, hate to say you're right uponit7771 Nov 2017 #162

If only we hadn't kept God out of our churches. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #41

I know... world wide wally Nov 2017 #42

Prayers will be offered crazycatlady Nov 2017 #45

That's about it...till the next incident... HipChick Nov 2017 #48

And the irony of offering prayers will be missed Nevernose Nov 2017 #117

thoughts too, remember to send thoughts 0rganism Nov 2017 #195

Albet Gamez, wilson country commissioner on CNN just said Takket Nov 2017 #51

This is crazy. Ezior Nov 2017 #53

+1. Hoyt Nov 2017 #64

I was stationed in Germany when I was in the Army. Aristus Nov 2017 #83

i traveled to South Africa over the summer BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #109

So...no one was carrying in Church? This was in Texas of all places too... HipChick Nov 2017 #57

In TX churches can make their own choices about allowing carrying Not Ruth Nov 2017 #61

Per CNN 27 dead 24 injured so far. Shooter is dead. appleannie1943 Nov 2017 #58

Not one to generally buy conspiracy theories but... OliverQ Nov 2017 #62

I would not discredit this HipChick Nov 2017 #67

You guys sound as loony as Alex Jones, who always blamed Obama for the shootings. Drunken Irishman Nov 2017 #69

+1 pintobean Nov 2017 #77

If they can interfere with our election, there's no telling what else ecstatic Nov 2017 #196

I'm certainly open to conspiracy theories, but.. mvd Nov 2017 #68

Putin agents wouldn't sacrifice themselves to do it. defacto7 Nov 2017 #71

Knock that shit off. Codeine Nov 2017 #73

You might want to loosen that tinfoil hat a bit. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #84

It is a conspiracy, but one years in the making by NRA, gun-fanciers and gun profiteers. Hoyt Nov 2017 #87

And the founding fathers. pintobean Nov 2017 #98

Yeah, founding fathers who talked of liberty/freedom and went home to beat and rape their slaves. Hoyt Nov 2017 #103

I put nothing past a guy that denigrates his own IC uponit7771 Nov 2017 #180

It's possible that others are now exploiting our lax gun laws and weak responses ecstatic Nov 2017 #190

. ucrdem Nov 2017 #72

Who knew Texas was a "free fahr" zone? GaYellowDawg Nov 2017 #74

I want to know HAB911 Nov 2017 #79

Don't you know, God supports guns. Hoyt Nov 2017 #89

Yeah that seems obvious HAB911 Nov 2017 #94

+1. Without "God," this gun problem would have been solved long ago. Hoyt Nov 2017 #97

CNN just said tRump sent his tweet....... a kennedy Nov 2017 #80

It's 4:40am in the morning in Japan....he prob did not send that tweet either.. HipChick Nov 2017 #86

He's waiting to see if it's a brown person so he can call it "Terrorism " NightWatcher Nov 2017 #96

From the golf course. SCVDem Nov 2017 #104

... pintobean Nov 2017 #82

Photos on Facebook page of this church FlaGranny Nov 2017 #91

Live feed stollen Nov 2017 #93

Thanks ..added to main comment.. HipChick Nov 2017 #99

I bet Trump returns home now and does his usual. sunonmars Nov 2017 #102

They wont say terrorism. So we know its not a Muslim Thrill Nov 2017 #107

Theres rumors that the shooter killed his family before going to the church nt maryellen99 Nov 2017 #112

I haven't heard anything about this. Was it reported on TV? The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author Not Ruth Nov 2017 #126

Aunt of the suspect in this video says he's not the shooter. Drunken Irishman Nov 2017 #136

Were his parents shot in their home or at church? Not Ruth Nov 2017 #138

Not clear - but there are now multiple people saying this guy is at the hospital with his family... Drunken Irishman Nov 2017 #146

San Antonio DUers can confirm rufus dog Nov 2017 #116

It's a Baptist Church. It may be fairly white stollen Nov 2017 #118

It looks like Sutherland Springs has few or no Hispanic people. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #121

Probably not LeftInTX Nov 2017 #125

Thanks for the local knowledge rufus dog Nov 2017 #135

I saw their youtube channel and they are white. LeftInTX Nov 2017 #128

Congressman says mostly white with some Hispanics n/t malaise Nov 2017 #130

If it had been mostly hispanic, it would have been named Primera Iglesia Bautista. Ilsa Nov 2017 #141

Their facebook page looks lily white IronLionZion Nov 2017 #185

the little girl in center of first pic is not white questionseverything Nov 2017 #230

Did you see the post I responded to? IronLionZion Nov 2017 #240

u said the church was lily white questionseverything Nov 2017 #241

I mourn for this country. The news channels might as well rerun their broadcasts from the last Vinca Nov 2017 #137

don't forget the 'first responders' spanone Nov 2017 #171

Trash talk kpete Nov 2017 #140

I pray that republicans will figure out that guns kill stollen Nov 2017 #149

I feel sick to my stomach Pachamama Nov 2017 #143

So do I. It it out of control. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #211

The rural clash of gund & God. Jim Beard Nov 2017 #144

Interesting cross-section HipChick Nov 2017 #145

Largest mass shooting in a church malaise Nov 2017 #153

Apparently Pastor's 14yr old kid is among the dead.. HipChick Nov 2017 #161

Well as they're saying he either killed or injured nearly everyone in the church malaise Nov 2017 #164

I'm not a church going person but when I have attended churches they usually only have the big lunasun Nov 2017 #168

Is it true the pastor was absent today? malaise Nov 2017 #212

Oh hoh.. HipChick Nov 2017 #216

All I can say is thbobby Nov 2017 #159

absolutely disgusting stollen Nov 2017 #167

Oh, knock it off with the "praying" nonsense. Codeine Nov 2017 #163

I turned the channel when they started with that crap.. HipChick Nov 2017 #165

How many will it take? Nitram Nov 2017 #166

Honestly, if killing all those kids @ Sandy Hook Va Lefty Nov 2017 #172

Maybe it will take the deaths of people conservatives know personally. Nitram Nov 2017 #176

Dont forget the one who has been a huge open carry advocate is Susana Hupp maryellen99 Nov 2017 #208

You're right, we'll never reach the total fanatics. Nitram Nov 2017 #219

I saw that after I posted my comment. Nitram Nov 2017 #247

The more this happens, the more people will know someone personally affected IronLionZion Nov 2017 #227

Getting shot didn't change the mind (if he has one)... 3catwoman3 Nov 2017 #243

Maybe he took a bullet to the logic center in his brain. Nitram Nov 2017 #248

IIRC, wasn't he... 3catwoman3 Nov 2017 #249

LOL! Good point. He's got shit for brains. Nitram Nov 2017 #252

Agreed... likesmountains 52 Nov 2017 #198

Yep. Sadly. Nt ecstatic Nov 2017 #201

A better shot at a Congressional baseball game might do it maxrandb Nov 2017 #200

The breaking point will probably be the # of phone calls Trump has to make stollen Nov 2017 #207

Since they're not calling it terrorism does that mean the shooter is white? IronLionZion Nov 2017 #175

Take this with a grain of sand... Runningdawg Nov 2017 #177

Family members are claiming that name exboyfil Nov 2017 #189

I'm not sure where that came from - I named no names Runningdawg Nov 2017 #245

Maybe different names exboyfil Nov 2017 #246

Isis and Al Qaeda can't even keep up with our own citizens. Lucky Luciano Nov 2017 #178

Checked out their YouTube channel, saw lots of little kids ecstatic Nov 2017 #181

Considering how European-American their facebook page is IronLionZion Nov 2017 #192

Why are so many in this thread pintobean Nov 2017 #194

I wasn't, but race does set the stage of how the tragedy will be handled ecstatic Nov 2017 #199

So why do we sarisataka Nov 2017 #205

Progressives tend to be proactive in order to be on top of the situation ecstatic Nov 2017 #209

Black churches have been targets.. HipChick Nov 2017 #202

Because that will influence the spin the politicians and some of the media The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #203

Welcome to America circa 2017 Va Lefty Nov 2017 #204

To perpetuate the denial of white terrorism IronLionZion Nov 2017 #225

Read the comments on KSAT and KENS (local San Antonio news) sites GETPLANING Nov 2017 #215

There always seems to be an almost celebratory crowd loyalsister Nov 2017 #223

Elusive yt guy with a gun took out the suspect.. HipChick Nov 2017 #226

Yep loyalsister Nov 2017 #232

It is a good thing sarisataka Nov 2017 #236

They really believe that if everyone could just shoot it out only the bad guys would be killed. chelsea0011 Nov 2017 #229

Current Reddit rumor is white Christian felon discharged for dishonorable US military service Not Ruth Nov 2017 #231

Ex-military are all dangerous sarisataka Nov 2017 #234