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MaryMagdaline

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Mon Nov 6, 2017, 01:39 PM

Nov 2017

How DO we wean ourselves from big money?

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I thought maybe I could get most everyone here upset with me [View all] Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 OP

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #1

Agreed. Regardless of whether one thinks it's a good or bad idea for him to run for President again Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #4

Why do you think that he refuses? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #39

I guess the removed post asked why Bernie hasn't released his tax returns. yardwork Nov 2017 #51

I am fairly certain of it.. disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #68

Actually, I think that it's weird that he refuses to release his tax returns. yardwork Nov 2017 #70

Well.. disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #71

If it's income tax returns being spoken about, many trusted that he'd do so in the last campaign.... George II Nov 2017 #86

Right. He couldn't make an issue of DT's unwillingness since he wasn't doing it either. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #11

This is a good post RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #2

Ditto iluvtennis Nov 2017 #23

The dems are partly responsible for the fact that the GOP has their boot on our neck. CrispyQ Nov 2017 #73

excellent piece MaryMagdaline Nov 2017 #3

The first step is always reaching a consensus about the need to do so. Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #5

And in the meantime, how do we replace the union dollars that sustained us in the past? ehrnst Nov 2017 #40

Just some thoughts Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #42

So why aren't these organizations a source of $$ for the DNC now? ehrnst Nov 2017 #44

Well, I'm a straight white male working in the Democratic Party Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #46

I believe the number of people identifying with a party has fallen ehrnst Nov 2017 #48

For the record - you have changed the conversation from what I wrote about in the OP Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #50

Not likely to happen, but marylandblue Nov 2017 #6

When you say dark money ehrnst Nov 2017 #45

Also, in addition to what marylandblue wrote... Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #7

It's not always easy to tell what is grassroots and what is propaganda anymore. ehrnst Nov 2017 #41

Great narrative. Thanks. n/t SpankMe Nov 2017 #8

The share of Millennials who identify as independent is up eight points since 2008. progressoid Nov 2017 #9

Independents in primaries MaryMagdaline Nov 2017 #24

I chair our local Democratic Committee, and that is my experience also Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #25

Same here. progressoid Nov 2017 #28

I don't think that's unusual historically... llmart Nov 2017 #64

The movement away from Party identification toward Independent status perhaps... Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #77

I know several Independents. All they want to do is vote when it is time. They don't want to work coolsandy Nov 2017 #80

Don't they need progress in the future? treestar Nov 2017 #60

A well thought out post. Thank you. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #10

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #12

I guess that's partial vindication for the subject line anyway Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #15

Sanders was good as a diagnostician grantcart Nov 2017 #13

I love true public service from the ranks of the well connected Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #16

Actually it used to be that clever and earnest people strove to wealth so they could give their time grantcart Nov 2017 #38

There is never a shortage of ways in which those with wealth can use it for social good. Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #43

Your suggestion to eliminate contributions from rich contributors because enforcing regulations is grantcart Nov 2017 #53

Here is what I actually wrote Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #54

Bad analogy.. whathehell Nov 2017 #63

"turn up the heat in the hotel light bulbs"? Really. How did they do that? George II Nov 2017 #84

You would have to ask The Chicago Tribune.. whathehell Nov 2017 #89

I agree. When someone outside our party joet67 Nov 2017 #14

money is power Hamlette Nov 2017 #17

The only thing I will say... Adrahil Nov 2017 #18

Our brand name is the forest Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #19

"I thought maybe I could get most everyone here upset with me" B2G Nov 2017 #20

LOL Clearly this wasn't my most productive exercise in my regard Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #22

great post bluestarone Nov 2017 #21

I enjoyed reading this but don't think your last paragraph.... NCTraveler Nov 2017 #26

True Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #31

Again, proven appearances. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #35

Marta & I.... Omaha Steve Nov 2017 #27

World's 8 richest men are worth as much as 3.6 billion people. jalan48 Nov 2017 #29

Maybe the answer is NOT to wean the policital parties off big money. Instead... Binkie The Clown Nov 2017 #30

Under centrism perhaps, as compared to hard right wing policies Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #32

Money corrupts hueymahl Nov 2017 #33

Wash, rinse, repeat, wash, rinse, repeat. Yup -- the Dems' policies bail the country out and then Ukapau Nov 2017 #37

That is at least an idea treestar Nov 2017 #62

This is a good post. Of course, I'm the quintessential idealist. PatrickforO Nov 2017 #34

We have to get rid of Citizens United first. LisaM Nov 2017 #36

Unilateral disarmament is not a winning strategy Progressive dog Nov 2017 #47

Well we simply disagree then Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #49

If the "weaning" is unilateral Progressive dog Nov 2017 #88

The fix is to shorten the political season to just the election year. Persondem Nov 2017 #52

I wholeheartedly agree with you in principle blue-wave Nov 2017 #55

Thank you and couldn't agree more Boomer Nov 2017 #56

I don't think it's news, or new, that money controls things in a country. Any country. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #57

Had the Dems not sat back while they saw unions dying & jobs being offshored whathehell Nov 2017 #58

How come the Republican party can do it? treestar Nov 2017 #59

Well Said! jimlup Nov 2017 #61

Bernie and Trump talked about similar things, which is why I kept saying Trump would win adigal Nov 2017 #65

Yes but this cuts to the core of everything we buy bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #66

You wrote as though Trusts never form to distort pure market forces Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #74

Once again, this clip sums it up BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #67

K&R.. great post disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #69

Just heard Van Jones zentrum Nov 2017 #72

Then Bernie should start in his own state of Vermont frazzled Nov 2017 #75

I don't believe in sacred cows when it comes to politics Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #76

I thought the issue was the Paradise Papers and the hiding of wealth frazzled Nov 2017 #78

It transcends individual political leaders and whatever shortcomings they might have. Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #79

I think you did frazzled Nov 2017 #81

Readers, like everything else, vary Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #82

For what its worth, to me the OP's purpose was not to deify Sanders. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #87

With the Koch brothers and other deep pocketed contributors pouring hundreds of millions... George II Nov 2017 #83

Read through the replies, it has already been subject to a fair amount of discussion. n/t Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #85