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114. About that competent executive

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 12:25 PM

Nov 2017

The biggest thing I know about Tom Perez is he wrote the "Fiduciary Rule" which has turned my job into a bowl of spaghetti.

My job now consists of pointlessly clicking computer boxes to satisfy this new rule for hours at a time. I'm working Saturdays for the first time in 15 years. My customers have had their prices rise, and their options lessen, and whatever the goal of this rule was at the beginning has been hopelessly lost in the tangled bowl of spaghetti that has become its implementation.

Competent executive? That's not anything I've ever seen from Tom Perez. If he tangles The DNC up with rules like he's done to us, the DNC won't even get to campaigns. It will spend its time checking boxes of reports from one department to another until the best people give up and quit and the comfortable burocrats happily stay.

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Watching Tom Perez on Chris Haye's show... [View all] Atman Nov 2017 OP

I Agree. I have a thread just below Yours. Ccarmona Nov 2017 #1

We hope such a person exists. elleng Nov 2017 #6

My vote for party head or next prez candidate is Ted Danson rwsanders Nov 2017 #54

I thought there was somone from Indiana, not well known question everything Nov 2017 #55

South Bend mayor? elleng Nov 2017 #60

Pete Buttigieg question everything Nov 2017 #61

LOTS of good things about him, elleng Nov 2017 #63

Yes. Ignorance and contempt based on it just shouldn't Hortensis Nov 2017 #165

Uuuhm no Glamrock Nov 2017 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #96

Time to throw awat the "purity test" in general if we ever want to win question everything Nov 2017 #108

Let me guess... he said Dems win when we lead with our values. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #42

Who is "the Right Person to Lead the DNC"? George II Nov 2017 #64

Dean Me. Nov 2017 #89

Someone with more political and/or fundraising experience like virtually all of the past DNC Midwestern Democrat Nov 2017 #100

Someone with a better media presence, more commanding speaking style. Sorry but it's important. SharonAnn Nov 2017 #101

THIS Atman Nov 2017 #120

He hasn't much charisma, but being charismatic isn't his job. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #2

How do you see that happening? Atman Nov 2017 #5

Hey, I wanted Keith Ellison to be the chair. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #10

+1 n/t jaysunb Nov 2017 #19

It's time to let KE take the reigns... he rocks! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #43

Perez did a great job...can you never be happy about a win? WE WON. Keith had his chance and lost Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #146

My comment was on Monday... wish I had your psychic powers!! haha InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #153

When is the next election for DNC chair? mfcorey1 Nov 2017 #154

No idea... guessin not before the 2018 mid-terms... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #155

Sorry...should have looked at the date...mea culpa mea maxima culpa...the polls were Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #157

No worries Dem, we all make mistakes... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #158

Amen...let's kick some GOP butt and thanks for your gracious response. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #159

Does anyone even know, without going to google, who the RNC chairman is? I don't. George II Nov 2017 #110

Ok well maybe he should stay off the TV then. woolldog Nov 2017 #7

Howard Dean had the 50 states strategy that brought the win by Obama question everything Nov 2017 #58

Being on TV requires good TV presence to be effective. SharonAnn Nov 2017 #102

Agree. Agschmid Nov 2017 #3

I echo your sentiments. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #46

Yeah, I tuned out when he came on woolldog Nov 2017 #4

Did he talk about values? Because I never get tired of that one. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #8

We must LEAD with our values!!! Usually says that in the first sentence. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #48

What is the opposite of bold and dynamic? Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #9

Somebody must have liked him. jalan48 Nov 2017 #11

That someone was President Obama, I thought? n/t DonaldsRump Nov 2017 #14

Obama liked DWS too as I remember. jalan48 Nov 2017 #16

It was decided that Perez and not Ellison should be the chair because The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #23

It "was decided?" "They" wanted a full time administrator. shanny Nov 2017 #26

What a lame conspiracy. R B Garr Nov 2017 #45

I was objecting to the framing in the previous post, bucko shanny Nov 2017 #71

Your framing was the tired rigged conspiracy in response. R B Garr Nov 2017 #75

Whatever you say. Clearly you know what is in my head better than I do. shanny Nov 2017 #80

Okay, sorry. The post you responded to was very clear and there wasn't any framing, R B Garr Nov 2017 #82

There was a vote, majority picked Perez. Perez signed up Ellison to help run the DNC emulatorloo Nov 2017 #62

See my response to the previous post shanny Nov 2017 #72

Could use more clarity I guess. You're assuming people are following your thought processes emulatorloo Nov 2017 #77

Thanks. shanny Nov 2017 #81

Will edit my post emulatorloo Nov 2017 #84

Thank you again. shanny Nov 2017 #103

Instead of a competent executive you'd rather have a tv star to FSogol Nov 2017 #12

Yep. joshcryer Nov 2017 #13

No, but thanks for playing. Atman Nov 2017 #17

Yes, the two concepts are NOT mutually exclusive. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #51

Hello. cilla4progress Nov 2017 #86

LOL, I forget, when did Obama run the DNC? FSogol Nov 2017 #99

President is titular head cilla4progress Nov 2017 #105

That doesn't make him the head of the DNC. FSogol Nov 2017 #106

Thats who beat 17 Reps SirBrockington Nov 2017 #31

Perez isnt running for office, he's a manager. FSogol Nov 2017 #33

So, when you have a bad experience and want to talk to the manager... Atman Nov 2017 #40

He is a wonderful breath of fresh air after listening R B Garr Nov 2017 #50

Its about messaging. You have to reach the idiots out there. And thats what it takes Thrill Nov 2017 #56

About that competent executive Yupster Nov 2017 #114

To be fair, Reince Priebus had the charisma of a dead fish... and the Republicans have been winning. SaschaHM Nov 2017 #15

Rinse Pubis got fired long ago. Atman Nov 2017 #18

Priebus wasnt fired from the RNC BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #20

Correct. My bad. Atman Nov 2017 #24

So maybe you should give Perez a break emulatorloo Nov 2017 #41

No. Atman Nov 2017 #44

You insist Perez be "charasmatic" and you've been shown charisma is not a requirement to do an emulatorloo Nov 2017 #49

And maybe that's why Democrats keep losing. Atman Nov 2017 #52

As others have told you, Perez is a manager. He's not a Democratic politician running for office. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #59

I can't keep up with your flipping and flopping in this thread. moda253 Nov 2017 #109

I have no idea what you're talking about. Atman Nov 2017 #117

Democrats won last night...and you saw the power of the gerrymander...we won by 9 points and yet the Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #145

Priebus became Chief of Staff and before that he oversaw the GOP climb back to power. SaschaHM Nov 2017 #22

blaming losses, so far, under Perez is bullshit bigtree Nov 2017 #21

I agree. Why don't we give him support and help. Easy to criticize when you are not doing a damn coolsandy Nov 2017 #107

Guess you want him carrying on about Millionaires and Billionaires? GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #25

"It is someone elses job to get votes." Atman Nov 2017 #27

so...is his job sucking up to said millionaires and billionaires? shanny Nov 2017 #28

Whats the dollar limit to not get insulted? R B Garr Nov 2017 #35

Such binary thinking. Btw DNC doesn't set policy, not their job. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #38

Speaking of embarrassing yourself, you must have a short memory. shanny Nov 2017 #70

Cute but no sale emulatorloo Nov 2017 #73

You sound a little defensive. shanny Nov 2017 #78

Tablet but I am old lol emulatorloo Nov 2017 #87

Your eyes are fine. You read that correctly. R B Garr Nov 2017 #90

Nah has to do w me getting confused w who was replying to who in another thread the other day emulatorloo Nov 2017 #92

Well, your response was correct about millionaires R B Garr Nov 2017 #93

ANd then there is the fact that hardly anything has been done to secure our elections; how many Amaryllis Nov 2017 #29

Talking about it SirBrockington Nov 2017 #32

That's not the DNC's job. They fundraise, they support candidates, they put on the convention emulatorloo Nov 2017 #36

YES! elleng Nov 2017 #67

I miss Howard. democrank Nov 2017 #30

Indeed SirBrockington Nov 2017 #34

Amen!! Duppers Nov 2017 #116

I was bored watching him SirBrockington Nov 2017 #37

Boy, do I agree with you. Polly Hennessey Nov 2017 #39

I agree 100% Catch2.2 Nov 2017 #47

The DNC needed Dean badly Thrill Nov 2017 #53

THEN, yes, elleng Nov 2017 #68

Well they won't get him...they had their chance, nor will they get Ellison...it is a done deal so Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #147

Actually the Democrats have been WINNING many state and local races lately. LBM20 Nov 2017 #57

The fact that we have no tv ad campaign against Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2017 #65

It's Chris Hayes, not "Chris Haye's". George II Nov 2017 #66

Chris Hayes' show. elleng Nov 2017 #69

If you had seen him yesterday on Univision, you'd feel even worse... lunamagica Nov 2017 #74

Inspiring as a cold noodle that needs to clear its throat. A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2017 #76

he was bad, I hope someone explains to him why Hamlette Nov 2017 #79

Reince Priebus has no on-air appeal. LisaM Nov 2017 #83

Feckless too summer_in_TX Nov 2017 #85

Press release from today. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #148

I've not been impressed with him. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #88

KE Snackshack Nov 2017 #91

Perez is not the candidate. lancelyons Nov 2017 #94

he is not inspirational or telegenic SoCalDem Nov 2017 #95

Well I live in MN and I'd rather have him focused on his JOB! moda253 Nov 2017 #112

I agree he has all the charisma of a ham sandwich nt doc03 Nov 2017 #97

Who is the head of the RNC? treestar Nov 2017 #98

I find it very interesting that the day before Election Day we see all these OPs pop up.... George II Nov 2017 #104

Yup and Noticing many of them have low post totals moda253 Nov 2017 #113

Hmmmmm peggysue2 Nov 2017 #118

30,780 is now considered a low post count? Atman Nov 2017 #122

I worked on minority outreach for the Northam campaign. Atman Nov 2017 #121

We only have local elections this year, but I've worked on the campaigns since August. I'm also.... George II Nov 2017 #123

I only criticized Tom Perez a day or two before the election because... Atman Nov 2017 #124

Got it...never mind that he presided over the biggest election win in Virginian in history...a Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #149

DNC Chair needs to be an administrator; not necessarily an evangelist. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #111

Glad I'm not the only who thought this. Duppers Nov 2017 #115

Even as a Sanders guy, I think Buttigieg would have brought.. mvd Nov 2017 #119

And this is what this is all about...Perez is not a Sander's man...well too bad so sad...he is Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #150

Yeah for Tom Perez and the DLCC Gothmog Nov 2017 #125

You might want to eat those words. That's a good thing ;) mucifer Nov 2017 #126

Might. Atman Nov 2017 #127

well for a change were NOT LOSING MFM008 Nov 2017 #128

WE'RE NOT LOSING Skittles Nov 2017 #129

lol bigtree Nov 2017 #131

people don't vote based on how PArty CHair appears on TV JI7 Nov 2017 #132

In light of last night's results, I'll happy take more of this "uninspired drivel" !!! ;) OnDoutside Nov 2017 #133

Well, we won big last night didn't we? I think Congratulations are in order. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #134

Indeed...best candidate recruitment I have seen in years...moderates Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #151

From Tom Perez Gothmog Nov 2017 #135

lol yeah no wonder Democrats are losing!!!!!!!!! Drunken Irishman Nov 2017 #136

Uhm...no. I posted this a couple of days ago. Atman Nov 2017 #137

Well there you go - silly to make a judgement call off one performance... Drunken Irishman Nov 2017 #138

I made a comment on the performance I saw. Atman Nov 2017 #139

Na'. It was a silly comment. Drunken Irishman Nov 2017 #141

Judging by the number of responses in agreement... Atman Nov 2017 #142

Oh please...plenty still upset that Sen. Sander's guy Keith Ellison didn't win ...they don't like Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #152

I don't care about Keith Ellison one way or another. Atman Nov 2017 #161

Well if if you say so...but there wasn't anyway to judge him before Tuesday... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #164

Your premise was not a comment, but rather a logical fallacy LanternWaste Nov 2017 #160

I needed "objective evidence" to support my personal opinion? Atman Nov 2017 #162

Fox host melts down as DNC chairman Perez gloats over Tuesday's big election wins Gothmog Nov 2017 #140

wow he kicked ass! mucifer Nov 2017 #156

I was proud of how Perez handled that fox news idiot Gothmog Nov 2017 #163

Ok...first of all...he did a great job last night...so who cares what you think. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #143

This aged well. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #144