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In reply to the discussion: I'm back for more abuse from the gun nuts [View all]hunter
(40,747 posts)Opinions are not anywhere close to "evenly split." Even Wal-Mart quit selling guns because that's where gangsters were buying them. (Of course the gangsters didn't stop stealing them from "responsible" gun owners, including cops.)
I think this is an issue like gay marriage. When the nation starts to lean against guns, as it began to lean toward the acceptance of gay marriage, the process will accelerate. Yes, I do view much stricter gun control laws as progress.
Personally, I'm suspicious of anyone who carries a gun for "self-defense," even cops. I see them as a potential danger to themselves and others.
I've witnessed and experienced gun violence firsthand, but there are only a few stories I'll share here on DU.
Some people, including this last church shooter, obviously shouldn't have guns.
If you're worried that someone like me is going to take away your guns, you probably should be.
If you've got a gun for hunting, or shooting the random rabid or plague infected animal on your ranch, then I've got no problem with that. If you occasionally shoot a few cans to keep in practice, I've got no problems with that either. (But please don't use lead ammunition, it's bad for the condors and other wildlife. It's bad for people too.)
My family is Wild West. There's zero tolerance for fools with guns. As a kid, I watched my mom take a loaded gun from a young man, unload it, and break it. The guy instantly transformed from a tough guy to a kid whining loudly he was going to sue her. He never did. My mom took away my grandma's guns when my grandma started to get paranoid. My brother beat the crap out of a guy brought a gun into his bar, a bit preemptively, but the cops agreed the guy was there to rob the place.
All the hand-me-down guns my parents ended up with have been destroyed, possibly including some "collectibles." (Collecting guns seems a morbid hobby to me.) One of my brother's has our grandfather's deer rifle, since my grandma gave it to him. My brother doesn't hunt. My siblings and I have been hunting, but it's not a tradition we've passed on to our own kids.
I think anyone who dresses up in cammo to shoot paper targets of bad guys is a fool. Anybody who lets imaginary bad guys, the sort they'd care to shoot, live in their head is a potentially dangerous fool.
I don't respect gun fetishes or the second ammendment as it is currently interpreted.
NRA members, most especially the gun manufacturers who whip up the fears and feelings of inadequacy of so many gun buyers, can go fuck themselves with a cholla cactus.
Don't tell me attitudes like mine make people vote Republican. If that's all it takes to make a person vote for someone like Trump, they're already an asshole.
I'm not running any Democratic campaigns, I'm especially not running for office, so there's no need for me to guard my opinions.