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Adrahil

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80. I don't disagree with that, but...

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 01:12 PM

Nov 2017

Advertisers advertise. And "purchased masculinity" is a big part of that culture for sure.

But I think we should focus on addressing the actual technical capabilities. The law needs to be precise and reasoned.

Though I am interested in what kind of effect advertising restrictions might have. They helped put smoking into decline.

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It's Time to Ban Assault Weapons. Civilians Don't Need Weapons of War [View all] dlk Nov 2017 OP

way past time. spanone Nov 2017 #1

Salon had an article a while back proposing a ban on gas-operated firearms. Girard442 Nov 2017 #2

Revolvers zipplewrath Nov 2017 #6

The "old six shooter" is limited to 6 rounds at a time. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #31

Point being zipplewrath Nov 2017 #35

Compared with a semi-automatic, a revolver is really not that fast. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #38

For a reason zipplewrath Nov 2017 #79

8 is less than 30 or 100. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #83

What first step zipplewrath Nov 2017 #85

Objecting to any first step is the favorite tactic of gun fanatics. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #86

And remove so-called assault weapons and the gun market will cool down dramatically. Hoyt Nov 2017 #46

You are slightly incorrect.... Adrahil Nov 2017 #33

The time was 1994 genxlib Nov 2017 #3

It was not a ban hack89 Nov 2017 #11

Agreed, manufacturers and the gun industry are greedy sleazeballs only interested in selling guns Hoyt Nov 2017 #48

Spirit of the law is BS hack89 Nov 2017 #50

When gunners care more about their guns than society, you are right. Hoyt Nov 2017 #63

ok. nt hack89 Nov 2017 #67

Hoyt... your main problem is that you feel your way through this issue. Adrahil Nov 2017 #61

Give me a lesson on what you think is so damn important about your gun obsession that Hoyt Nov 2017 #62

See? Adrahil Nov 2017 #64

And what about how guns work would you deem restrictable -- semi-autos, hicap mags, bump Hoyt Nov 2017 #68

THis.... Adrahil Nov 2017 #75

I agree with most of that, although not sure what a vast knowledge of guns has to do with Hoyt Nov 2017 #76

Alright! We're talking! Adrahil Nov 2017 #77

I hear you. I still believe guns marketed as tactical rifles, etc., are a problem. Hoyt Nov 2017 #78

I don't disagree with that, but... Adrahil Nov 2017 #80

Technical capabilities means we will be arguing about magazines vs. clips. Who cares, they are Hoyt Nov 2017 #81

The law cares.... that's my point. Adrahil Nov 2017 #82

If we ban magazines, the gun-humpers will buy belted ammunition. Screw em, just ban automatically Hoyt Nov 2017 #88

Okay... good luck with that... NT Adrahil Nov 2017 #89

One point I would like to add is that better Nov 2017 #98

While we sit here dicking around about nomenclature people are getting killed, gun manufacturers Hoyt Nov 2017 #99

I say let 'em go at it like they have been... Baconator Nov 2017 #96

Easier said than done. AWBs don't really do what you want them to do. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #4

Yep AncientGeezer Nov 2017 #7

Yep. fallout87 Nov 2017 #58

Honestly, I'm ready to ban all semi-automatics. NutmegYankee Nov 2017 #5

Hunters I knew as a kid HopeAgain Nov 2017 #54

Aikoaiko is spot on better Nov 2017 #8

My proposal on how to define what an assault weapon is Kaleva Nov 2017 #9

Well... better Nov 2017 #10

When looking at cartridges the size of a .308, you're getting into common hunting rounds Kaleva Nov 2017 #13

6.8 Grendel is a very popular AR -15 round hack89 Nov 2017 #14

No it would not because the case length is less then 2 inches Kaleva Nov 2017 #15

You are playing a fool's game hack89 Nov 2017 #18

There is no reason to invent anything Kaleva Nov 2017 #19

So what's the point? hack89 Nov 2017 #20

There's reasons why mass shooters typically don't go for the bigger guns Kaleva Nov 2017 #23

But 6.6 is not a bigger gun hack89 Nov 2017 #25

Well, yes it is. Kaleva Nov 2017 #26

Except there are plenty of 6.8 AR15 receivers on the market. hack89 Nov 2017 #28

What is the length of the case? Kaleva Nov 2017 #37

ok. hack89 Nov 2017 #41

The old AWB was easy to get around. My proposed definition is not. Kaleva Nov 2017 #43

It is easy to solve problems hack89 Nov 2017 #44

As far as my $.02 on how to define an assault rifle... better Nov 2017 #16

Actually, we are trying to define what an assault weapon is Kaleva Nov 2017 #21

To be fair better Nov 2017 #29

I've thought about magazine capacity Kaleva Nov 2017 #42

Those are some very good and compelling points better Nov 2017 #47

I've argued in favor of limiting magazine capacity for years in the gungeon Kaleva Nov 2017 #92

Sort of. I'm actually discussing qualifying an assault weapon on the basis of capacity. better Nov 2017 #93

IMO, going to a bigger cartridge in of itself reduces capacity Kaleva Nov 2017 #94

You are of course correct. better Nov 2017 #95

Welcome to DU maxsolomon Nov 2017 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author better Nov 2017 #22

You are not being honest to a new member ThoughtCriminal Nov 2017 #39

I'm being honest maxsolomon Nov 2017 #97

The only country on the planet with regular multiple mass shootings. oasis Nov 2017 #17

It was time to do it decades ago, but realistically it's not going to happen. Crunchy Frog Nov 2017 #24

it's time to ban all weapons I totally agree gopiscrap Nov 2017 #27

Combat weapons belong on the battlefield meow2u3 Nov 2017 #30

I dont think itll ever happen SirBrockington Nov 2017 #32

We need to think long-term on this. Whatever we do banning certain weapons may not payoff Hoyt Nov 2017 #52

Most restrictive gun state in country SirBrockington Nov 2017 #34

Never happen. The gunfucks WANT a war. They're praying for one. Aristus Nov 2017 #36

I respectfully disagree. better Nov 2017 #40

I think your proposals are very sensible. Aristus Nov 2017 #69

And now we have Infowars, Breitbart and Prison Planet to deal with. Initech Nov 2017 #49

Even if the "gubmint" came knocking door to door asking for their guns... Xolodno Nov 2017 #51

I agree - or more regulation, licensing, requirement to carry liability insurance OhioBlue Nov 2017 #45

There appears to be a complete lack of political will to do this on both sides. HopeAgain Nov 2017 #53

Posting of this nature MyNameGoesHere Nov 2017 #55

Hey, don't knock the educators! Sailor65x1 Nov 2017 #59

I'm sorry but wouldn't your education MyNameGoesHere Nov 2017 #60

Here's the part I think you don't get: Sailor65x1 Nov 2017 #65

You may continue with your educating MyNameGoesHere Nov 2017 #70

I have no problem making "assault weapons" illegal, but how would you get the thousands napi21 Nov 2017 #56

Stopping new production is a critical step. A few gun lovers are as law-abiding as Hoyt Nov 2017 #66

Gun Owners will have to be compensated for turning them in. Calista241 Nov 2017 #84

Why? It's just like investing in anything that goes bad. They made bad investment in lethal weapons. Hoyt Nov 2017 #87

The 4th amendment protects citizens from seizure. Calista241 Nov 2017 #90

I think gunners misinterpret the 4th Amendment, just like they do the 2nd. I don't have Hoyt Nov 2017 #91

They need to be banned completely. Doreen Nov 2017 #57

Way past time. Weapons of war belong locked up in an Armory guarded by actual soldiers. nt Hekate Nov 2017 #71

But how will gun nuts play out their Rambo fantasies? doodsaq Nov 2017 #72

X-box and play station have great first shooter games. Or join the military. kydo Nov 2017 #73

Cool idea. I do see lots of rhetorical points rolled into one post - got anything more specific? jmg257 Nov 2017 #74