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aikoaiko

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6. Except that gun ownership rates among Americans are historically low.

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:05 PM

Nov 2017

Yes, we have a lot of guns in our society, but they are in the hands of fewer and fewer Americans.

Only about 30-35% of households nationally have firearms according to self-reports (granted which may be due to underreporting).

Almost all of these mass shooters are using only 1 - 3 guns to commit their crimes (the LV shooting is a notable exception). Having 10, 30, 100 ARs isn't relevant to mass shootings.

If its true that mass shootings are increasing and gun ownership rates are decreasing, then the NYT is full of shit.

Something else is going on.

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What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer. [View all] Cattledog Nov 2017 OP

No. It is taking prayer out exboyfil Nov 2017 #1

Duh! malaise Nov 2017 #2

Actually the facts don't really support that argument: EX500rider Nov 2017 #4

Did you not see the words "Mass shootings"? Cattledog Nov 2017 #5

The words i responded to were: EX500rider Nov 2017 #8

It's obviously implied. The OP is on mass killings. brush Nov 2017 #13

"GunFacts" is a major NRA propaganda site, so I take their stats with a grain of salt. Cattledog Nov 2017 #16

It's easy enough to cross reference.. EX500rider Nov 2017 #23

But then one has to look at who wrote the Wikipedia article. AllyCat Nov 2017 #33

The graft I posted has the source material listed in the footnotes. EX500rider Nov 2017 #34

In developed industrialized countries with more or less stable governments Crunchy Frog Nov 2017 #22

Doesn't seem so to me: EX500rider Nov 2017 #25

Your data of 3 homicides per 100,000 for Europe GeoWilliam750 Nov 2017 #30

Yep, can't get any simpler than that. brush Nov 2017 #9

American men love their guns, that is the answer. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #3

Except that gun ownership rates among Americans are historically low. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #6

IMO nothing else is going on. Those who get/have access to guns are the demographic segment... brush Nov 2017 #11

So you're saying that a type of person who didn't own guns in the past are now buying guns... aikoaiko Nov 2017 #14

That's what you're saying. brush Nov 2017 #15

Yes, because more people had guns in the past but there were fewer mass shootings. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #17

More people had guns in the past? You'd better research that. brush Nov 2017 #18

Its common knowledge among people who discuss gun control. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #29

Seems flawed. Millions more people now, millions more guns, millions more with multiple guns. brush Nov 2017 #36

Being uncompromisingly pro-gun White working class support for Republicans Yavin4 Nov 2017 #7

number of guns handmade34 Nov 2017 #10

Gimme my guns!---the gunners creed. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #12

There's more guns than people in this country. Is anyone really surprised? Initech Nov 2017 #19

I dont own weapons. Whats their appeal? Duncan Grant Nov 2017 #20

To be honest, target shooting is fun Bucky Nov 2017 #24

I agree with you completely. I really can't understand the obsession. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #31

I don't get it either loyalsister Nov 2017 #37

Gee what a surprise. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #21

I question the numbers Not Ruth Nov 2017 #26

The article you linked to says nothing about mass shootings. klook Nov 2017 #27

Mexico has about 23k homicides a year and that is considered under reporting Not Ruth Nov 2017 #35

Mass shootings klook Nov 2017 #38

You think that they do not have mass shootings in MX? Not Ruth Nov 2017 #39

Youre trying to change the subject - Why? klook Nov 2017 #40

As the FBI does not defines mass shooting, I question the credibility of your narrative Not Ruth Nov 2017 #41

why are there so many gun humping cowards in the "home of the brave"? Skittles Nov 2017 #28

Nah, that ain't it. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2017 #32