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loyalsister

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56. It specifically designed to use when there isn't enough light, right?

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 07:11 PM

Nov 2017

And, you would use it for that purpose. Likewise, why would someone carry a gun that was designed specifically to kill people if that is not the purpose?

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Man who opened fire on Texas church shooter hailed as 'good Samaritan' [View all] pintobean Nov 2017 OP

He ran toward the danger, not away from it and put 2 bullets into the murdering POS Lurks Often Nov 2017 #1

And some on this board are calling exboyfil Nov 2017 #2

It won't play well at all outside of very blue districts. Lurks Often Nov 2017 #3

I'm from a very blue district leftynyc Nov 2017 #27

Im thinking damn few also. cwydro Nov 2017 #12

I agree with you. How anyone can demonize this man is beyond comprehension. It's why we lose. grossproffit Nov 2017 #28

I would be running to the victims to administer CPR. Ilsa Nov 2017 #69

What if he was going to turn himself in? loyalsister Nov 2017 #4

He shot himself in the head. After shooting at the interloper. Not sure 'might turn himself in' jmg257 Nov 2017 #5

What if he was going to track down his MIL and shoot her since she wasn't at church snooper2 Nov 2017 #6

Exactly my point loyalsister Nov 2017 #11

You need to prove...something? That this civilian did NOT do something good by confronting jmg257 Nov 2017 #16

This is being used to "prove" that everyone should have a gun loyalsister Nov 2017 #19

Ah - gotcha. Clearly not a good idea. nt jmg257 Nov 2017 #20

I have no idea where you're getting that. pintobean Nov 2017 #21

The NRA has been dreaming of the day that they would find their hero loyalsister Nov 2017 #25

And THAT is the point. Thank you. Orrex Nov 2017 #85

Any more it is going to take both, a good man with a gun and fewer guns and more laws are needed bec Jim Beard Nov 2017 #94

"What if he was going to turn himself in?" EX500rider Nov 2017 #9

He was an active shooter. pintobean Nov 2017 #10

Thank you. Nt cwydro Nov 2017 #13

I was pointing out how dumb speculation is loyalsister Nov 2017 #14

be careful historian Nov 2017 #23

You really think Willeford was hoping to become a hero??? He just doesn't seem like that jmg257 Nov 2017 #24

I don't think most gun owners think that way loyalsister Nov 2017 #31

Why? Why would they just be busting to use it?? Strange you think so many are just aching to kill. jmg257 Nov 2017 #33

Why own anything you don't want to use? loyalsister Nov 2017 #36

You mean like a fire extinguisher? A bee-sting kit? A seat belt? A life preserver? jmg257 Nov 2017 #39

Which of those items is specifically designed to kill people? loyalsister Nov 2017 #41

So you change the question!!? "Why own anything you don't want to use?" jmg257 Nov 2017 #42

Guns for other things is the most callous justification out there loyalsister Nov 2017 #44

Yeesh...YOU were the one who asked the questions. And now your making points that had jmg257 Nov 2017 #47

exactly historian Nov 2017 #75

Curious point. How do you think they would have handled the importance of the people/militia then? jmg257 Nov 2017 #91

I own a plunger. pintobean Nov 2017 #35

Do you carry it everywhere you go? loyalsister Nov 2017 #37

Nope. just my phone, wallet and keys. pintobean Nov 2017 #40

If you need specific tools.... loyalsister Nov 2017 #43

Just admit that the idea makes you feel icky... Baconator Nov 2017 #61

yes it's gross and creepy loyalsister Nov 2017 #62

Doubling down on the whole 'making things up' bit...? Baconator Nov 2017 #78

I carry a flashlight everywhere I go Not Ruth Nov 2017 #54

It specifically designed to use when there isn't enough light, right? loyalsister Nov 2017 #56

I would argue that it is a trade off between weight and safety Not Ruth Nov 2017 #57

That *is* the purpose, and was the first lesson I was taught about guns. moriah Nov 2017 #68

I certainly keep my plunger next to the toilet. ;) moriah Nov 2017 #64

I can only speak for myself sarisataka Nov 2017 #45

I carry daily and hope I never have to even draw my gun Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #46

But you can and are willing to use it for the purpose it was designed for? loyalsister Nov 2017 #67

For defense of myself or others Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #71

And when it's necessary to shoot, it's still a BFD legally for the person. moriah Nov 2017 #73

Thats an almost universal thing with people who have had to live through it Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #80

Mine are personal protection instruments designed to save life. ileus Nov 2017 #63

Yeah I hear that a lot loyalsister Nov 2017 #66

He had to take time to get his rifle out of his gunsafe in his home. Hardly Jim Beard Nov 2017 #81

You're correct GaryCnf Nov 2017 #79

How to you judge the weight of the evidence to be such Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #82

Did he kill the neighbor? GaryCnf Nov 2017 #84

So if he missed he didnt mean it? Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #86

Perfect GaryCnf Nov 2017 #87

Your changing your stance a bit now Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #88

I'm not sure I can disagree with that last statement. GaryCnf Nov 2017 #93

Thanks for the detail and clarity loyalsister Nov 2017 #92

Active shooters don't do that. Bucky Nov 2017 #18

I understand you don't like the narrative you feel they're pushing... moriah Nov 2017 #48

Run with it and see where it has brought us loyalsister Nov 2017 #53

As I said, I get why you don't like how they're pushing the story. moriah Nov 2017 #58

You cant change what happened just because you dont like the Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #83

That's just embarrassing... Baconator Nov 2017 #59

Yes, it is. pintobean Nov 2017 #90

Under current laws... NCTraveler Nov 2017 #7

Have these people actually read the parable of the good Samaritan? gratuitous Nov 2017 #8

Can death ever be mercy? moriah Nov 2017 #50

Short answer gratuitous Nov 2017 #65

I'm confused. moriah Nov 2017 #70

IF we had certain regulations in place, and the ones we had were followed, Raine1967 Nov 2017 #15

Yeah that's the narrative from this incident. Crunchy Frog Nov 2017 #17

has it ever occurred to anyone historian Nov 2017 #22

I am sure that has occurred to plenty of people. You would have to square jmg257 Nov 2017 #30

not wishing to be rude historian Nov 2017 #74

Taking no offense. These aren't phony statistics. They're FBI/DOJ crime stats and well-known. jmg257 Nov 2017 #89

It doesn't always have to be political. dpd3672 Nov 2017 #26

He should've shot that asshole mass murderer BEFORE he stepped into the church. hunter Nov 2017 #29

It's possible both to consider the two guys who intervened as heroes and to simultaneously onenote Nov 2017 #32

He was trained. Willeford was a former NRA certified instructor. FarCenter Nov 2017 #49

That's what I was thinking. LisaM Nov 2017 #51

He was aiming to hit above or below the body armor that the guy was wearing. FarCenter Nov 2017 #52

Have you ever fired a gun? Under stress? At a moving target? Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #55

I have not, and that's why I don't want to glorify or condemn. LisaM Nov 2017 #60

Are you saying there were no armed individuals in that church? I don't think Kelley was Hoyt Nov 2017 #77

Yes. hunter Nov 2017 #95

Chemo works well on cancers. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #34

IMO People that go on murder sprees expect not to make it. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #38

I guess he is book_worm Nov 2017 #72

Glad he intervened, but it just proves guns seldom make things better. Hoyt Nov 2017 #76