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In reply to the discussion: Score a victory for moderates [View all]HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)The Democrats lost 2010 for three reasons:
a) Natural mid-term complacency/lower voter turnout after a presidential victory, although highly damaging in a Census year.
b) Because Obama didn't repair the Failure Fuhrer's catastrophic reign in less than two year's time.
c) Not because "Obama couldn't get single payer" (really, it wasn't up to Obama to get ANYthing; that's Congress' job), but rather because of the failure of Congress (still IN Democratic control) to even accept merely a public option (multi-payer), which HE CAMPAIGNED ON. And it wasn't JUST because of Republicans, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF EIGHT DEMOCRATS shooting down TWO different proposals FOR the Public Option in committee. It never had a chance because of CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS capitulating to their Big Insurance/Big Pharma handlers. They NEVER wanted this public option, and NO blatant re-writing of history CHANGES that.
While Obama won 2012, he did lose some counties and a couple of states from his historic 2008 victory. That should have been a red flag, but it wasn't.
2014 is not as simple as you're making it out to be. That was a combo of Republican small state strategy on a glacial pace and a string of bad international news tied to President Obama:
Senate Democrats were furious after the Obamacare website debacle last fall swiftly wiped out all of the GOP brand destruction that happened during the government shutdown. That kicked off a year of bad news for Obama and his administration, including a scandal at the Department of Veterans Affairs; the rise of ISIL in the Middle East, which led to U.S. soldiers heading back to Iraq and bombing attacks in Syria; the Ebola epidemic in West Africa and the bungled administration response to concerns the deadly disease might spread to this country; a tidal wave of unaccompanied minors at the U.S.-Mexico border; and the crisis over Russias actions in Ukraine raising the specter of a new Cold War.
All of these episodes kept Obama front and center in the news, exactly where Democrats on Capitol Hill didnt want him.
On individual issues and tactics, weve done a really good job of responding, said Guy Cecil, the DSCCs executive director. The challenge is that each of those individual issues put the president back in the center of the conversation and nationalized the election.
Hillary's loss is on her campaign team, who let her down twice. I'm not going to run down paragraph after paragraph as to why she lost to a Fascist Cheeto, but no heavy public campaigns in Rust Belt states, telling coal miners to train for new jobs (however true that may be, not exactly an easy proposition unless it's free), saying "Single Payer is never going to happen", a safe but uninspiring VP choice, putting out ads that did nothing but attack Trump and gave no reason to vote FOR her and the revealed shenanigans of DWS . . . DIDN'T help matters.
A primary is designed to make candidates stronger and refine their message. Hillary came out strong after the DNC acceptance, but had to work against Republican small state strategy, their media (which fomented years of hatred for all things Clinton), Comey's bullshit and now-known Russian interference. Polling also let us down, leading to the mother-of-all-fuck-ups we see today.
Pushing progressives out of the picture is going to ruin your chances to right this ship. Dismissing what's absolutely needed in the face of near-Pure Capitalism destroying EVERYone's lives . . . . I don't know, ignore that at your own peril. The Jobs Debacle is coming. Mercantile CullCare cannot remain in place, it CAN'T. It's more risky to just keep things as they are in the face of zero wage growth and continued layoffs rather than to DO something about it.