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In reply to the discussion: This tweet needs to be permanently pinned to the top as an example [View all]frazzled
(18,402 posts)19. That is a highly disputed study
One cannot deny that Voter ID laws deter voters, especially minority voters, and it probably had some effect; but so did voluntary non-participation.
Baldwins claim is based on a study by a left-leaning group, Priorities USA. Election experts have widely criticized the report, but 0ther Democrats, including Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), have made claims based on the report.
The study looks at turnout in Wisconsin and Minnesota, which does not have a voter ID law. It finds that Wisconsin had lower turnout among nonwhite communities, while Minnesota did not. The study concludes that if turnout had increased by the national no-change average, over 200,000 more voters would have voted in Wisconsin in 2016.
But correlation isnt always causation, and the study does not offer evidence of causation.
One of the main criticisms of this study is that it attributes all 200,000 votes to Wisconsins voter ID law. Yet its not that simple. While the law likely had some impact on deterring potential voters, there are other things that may have affected the lower turnout.
For example, many voters in Wisconsin decided to sit out this election. There was a lack of enthusiasm among voters for Clinton or Trump, and some may have believed Trump didnt have a chance at winning Wisconsin, PolitiFact Wisconsin wrote. PolitiFact Wisconsin also pointed out that 2016 turnout in the state was higher than in 2008, before the voter ID law.
Rick Hasen, an elections expert at the University of California at Irvine, noted that black voters in Milwaukee, which experienced a dramatic decline in turnout in 2016, were not motivated by Clinton the same way they were for Obama in 2012 or 2008. Moreover, there was a general decline in the black vote in 2016, compared with 2012 or 2008, in both states that had voter ID laws and states that didnt.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/05/30/do-voter-id-laws-help-or-hurt-voter-turnout/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.0d3872d7e4a5
The study looks at turnout in Wisconsin and Minnesota, which does not have a voter ID law. It finds that Wisconsin had lower turnout among nonwhite communities, while Minnesota did not. The study concludes that if turnout had increased by the national no-change average, over 200,000 more voters would have voted in Wisconsin in 2016.
But correlation isnt always causation, and the study does not offer evidence of causation.
One of the main criticisms of this study is that it attributes all 200,000 votes to Wisconsins voter ID law. Yet its not that simple. While the law likely had some impact on deterring potential voters, there are other things that may have affected the lower turnout.
For example, many voters in Wisconsin decided to sit out this election. There was a lack of enthusiasm among voters for Clinton or Trump, and some may have believed Trump didnt have a chance at winning Wisconsin, PolitiFact Wisconsin wrote. PolitiFact Wisconsin also pointed out that 2016 turnout in the state was higher than in 2008, before the voter ID law.
Rick Hasen, an elections expert at the University of California at Irvine, noted that black voters in Milwaukee, which experienced a dramatic decline in turnout in 2016, were not motivated by Clinton the same way they were for Obama in 2012 or 2008. Moreover, there was a general decline in the black vote in 2016, compared with 2012 or 2008, in both states that had voter ID laws and states that didnt.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/05/30/do-voter-id-laws-help-or-hurt-voter-turnout/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.0d3872d7e4a5
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Blue_Tires
Nov 2017
OP
This is why Rs are passing unconstitutional voting laws, to suppress those 69 voters.
L. Coyote
Nov 2017
#3
Way more people were legislated from voting in Wisconsin than Trump's margin.
L. Coyote
Nov 2017
#10
Mandatory Voting, don't have to have a fine or show up-Its a much fairer system & hard to fraud
Sunlei
Nov 2017
#25
It's 68 people, not 69...but the result is the same. That's amazing!!!! A recount? nt
Honeycombe8
Nov 2017
#21
Both parties are the same, no point voting, it's all rigged anyway, blah blah blah
IronLionZion
Nov 2017
#28