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vi5

(13,305 posts)
167. Agreed. 100%.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:51 PM
Nov 2017

The only nitpick I personally make is that here in my home state we didn't go with someone bolder than Murphy.

I get that in red states we need to pick and choose our battles and aren't going to be able to run firebrand liberals. But in NJ we could have run a slice of moldy bread and if it had a D after it's name it would have beat Christie's Lt. Governer. So in a place like deep blue New Jersey, in a climate where it was a Democratic slam dunk no matter what, we ran a safe, moderate, middle aged white guy with Wall Street ties. I've got nothing against Murphy and I hope he does a great job and is very successful. But I think we need to focus on deepening our bench and taking some chances when we can. And if we have to hear how we need to be "safe" when a seat or a race is potentially risky then I'd like us to be a little more daring and bold when it's an absolute gimmie.

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I agree, but good luck around here... vi5 Nov 2017 #1
.... LexVegas Nov 2017 #3
+1000. ehrnst Nov 2017 #10
This plus infinity! sheshe2 Nov 2017 #75
Y'all were salivating over a Northam loss yesterday. How about we focus on shared policy goals emulatorloo Nov 2017 #117
I don't know who you think "y'all" was.... vi5 Nov 2017 #161
OP had the sense to delete the thread. Check out Northam's victory speech, good blueprint for emulatorloo Nov 2017 #164
Agreed. 100%. vi5 Nov 2017 #167
That makes a ton of sense to me emulatorloo Nov 2017 #169
Good lord! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #2
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #5
+1 BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #13
Doom and gloom. FUD! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #20
This would not win a debate, except among the already predisposed. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #30
Your mistake is thinking that the OP is worthy of debate. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #81
Ouch. nt sheshe2 Nov 2017 #86
The truth hurts sometimes. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #87
Yup! sheshe2 Nov 2017 #88
Confirmation bias is not debate, nor does it prove anything. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #163
... emulatorloo Nov 2017 #123
Yeah for NurseJackie Gothmog Nov 2017 #31
She is spot on. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #89
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #115
Exactly. n/t NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #111
You think the OP is being gloomy? I don't understand. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #150
Well, it was certainly done without the almighty "white working class" vote ehrnst Nov 2017 #4
One thing it seems for certain is that the real base was not fooled. mamas Nov 2017 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #118
You Said It Sister Me. Nov 2017 #7
That "establishment group?" ehrnst Nov 2017 #8
So glad that groups like "Our Revolution" kept their meddling paws out of it... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #9
Their preferred candidates for both NJ and VA governors didn't win the primaries ehrnst Nov 2017 #12
I GUess They Did Prove Something Me. Nov 2017 #17
Which is good because they never win shit. They sometimes cause us to lose...but never win. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #142
Poor JUdgment Right From The Get-Go Me. Nov 2017 #146
What is the old song...'don't stand in the way' ..."the times they are achanging." Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #151
+1 Me. Nov 2017 #152
No doubt of that...I admire him...and yes people of color were excluded but the laws on the books Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #154
Johnson Was Underrated Me. Nov 2017 #157
Sometimes you need that...I doubt civil right or medicaid would have passed without arm twisting. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #166
Yes, You Need A Certain Type Of 'Influence' To Press Your Case Me. Nov 2017 #168
On Delegate elect in Virginia got their support. Blue_true Nov 2017 #22
You mean the he ran as a Democrat, yet would not have anything to do with them ehrnst Nov 2017 #133
Who was the candidate? N/T lapucelle Nov 2017 #141
The Democratic Socialist who ran as a Democrat and won in Virginia. Blue_true Nov 2017 #155
Lee Carter is a long time Democrat. lapucelle Nov 2017 #158
The only male Our Revolution-endorsed candidate in VA lapucelle Nov 2017 #145
I read that in a news article. Could have been wrong. nt Blue_true Nov 2017 #156
That DFA group tried to sabotage it with their last minute announcement of non-support for Northam brush Nov 2017 #14
It had the appearance of a power play. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #19
Howard Dean said that it disappointed him to see that, and he didn't support their actions. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #134
+1 NCTraveler Nov 2017 #135
Vas you ever in Zinzinnati? OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #24
Several times! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #27
Perhaps some don't really want Democrats to win. MineralMan Nov 2017 #66
I think some want Democrats to lose so they have an excuse to meddle in how the party works and take Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #97
I believe Our Revolution supported many winning candidates Fiendish Thingy Nov 2017 #28
Some, yes. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #54
I was surprised to see that Danica Roem didn't merit their endorsement. lapucelle Nov 2017 #74
"Nor did they need it to win" emulatorloo Nov 2017 #131
Really? Who...I despise Our Revolution. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #143
There is actually a chapter in Peoria. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #35
LOL! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #37
Marks for GIF posting. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #41
Progressive group ends 'direct aid' to Northam Gothmog Nov 2017 #38
Seems familiar, but I cannot remember the context in which I heard of DFA ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #50
Didn't they spring up after Howard Dean lost the '04 primary? Democracy For America? I'm not... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #103
DFA threw shade at Northam. Perriello Worked his ass of for Northam though emulatorloo Nov 2017 #107
Yes. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #16
+1 fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #48
OK...I'll say this again Ken Burch Nov 2017 #68
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #112
Well said. delisen Nov 2017 #153
What specific changes to the party to you attribute the wins to? ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #11
You want REAL WORLD and ACTUAL specifics? Good luck with that! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #18
I actually ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #21
Some "revolutions" are in name only. It's like being overcharged for "regenerating" ... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #23
I like Egyptian Magic from Costco ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #25
I know! Right?! False claims and empty promises are the worst!! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #32
Not perfumed at all! ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #45
You mean "Regenerist" isn't what it claims? ehrnst Nov 2017 #33
I'm afraid not. How much did you spend? I've seen it for about $27 or so... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #64
I often think about the expensive face cream analogy. betsuni Nov 2017 #78
Another great post NurseJackie Gothmog Nov 2017 #39
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #114
Unity. Love it. Support what you appreciate so much. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #15
Are you suggesting a woman won't have to bail them out again? nt fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #44
Nurse Jackie's gif in post 2 is perfect! treestar Nov 2017 #26
A gif is worth a thousand words... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #34
Recommended. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #29
You mean like Northam and Murphy and Roem did? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #36
Local does not always translate on a national scale. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #40
What does that have to do with Northam, Murphy and Roem? ehrnst Nov 2017 #56
Local politics is local. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #57
And didactic is didactic... ehrnst Nov 2017 #60
Yes, it is obvious, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #63
This is a victory for Democrats. Nothing anyone can say will change that. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #170
Funny how many posts in this thread I don't see! klook Nov 2017 #43
Hey Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat! Cary Nov 2017 #46
Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Nov 2017 #51
Rock fall off cliffcrushing moose and squirrel Cary Nov 2017 #92
We adapt to the circumstances DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #47
The Democratic base came out and voted. SandyZ Nov 2017 #49
Winning is my happy place MFM008 Nov 2017 #52
It helps that Dems actually came out to vote this time Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #53
I think some white people realized that you get to choose between two candidates ehrnst Nov 2017 #58
+1 Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #62
+1 betsuni Nov 2017 #67
+1 NurseJackie Nov 2017 #72
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2017 #93
So there's been significant changes, but people are saying we don't need change, betsuni Nov 2017 #55
Tequila might be a more fun remedy. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #80
What a coincidence, I saw a story about Tequila on the news this morning. betsuni Nov 2017 #82
Lol sheshe2 Nov 2017 #83
I think it showed two things: Docreed2003 Nov 2017 #59
Well said. Squinch Nov 2017 #76
Thank you..... Docreed2003 Nov 2017 #129
On the money. nocalflea Nov 2017 #126
No doubt! Docreed2003 Nov 2017 #127
Still can't let it go? MineralMan Nov 2017 #61
BTW congratulations on your milestone on posting Gothmog Nov 2017 #70
Thanks. MineralMan Nov 2017 #73
+1 obamanut2012 Nov 2017 #71
Yes, absolutely! nt Raine Nov 2017 #65
Nurse Jackie-what changes were made by the party? Gothmog Nov 2017 #69
I don't know. Personally, I'm a resident of the real world and nothing... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #94
I don't want changes...we win with a big tent approach...last night proved that. I am Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #99
Perhaps you should listen to the women. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #77
I am hopeful also... we need big numbers in 18 to flip a gerrymandered house but we can do it. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #100
Yes we can because we are FOCUSED! sheshe2 Nov 2017 #106
And Trump has really attacked women in an unprecedented way with allowing employers to control Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #140
Ya got that right sheshe2. fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #109
I like. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #116
Ya, I like interacting with her on twitter. She's worked up a good following. I miss her here. nt. fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #119
Yes, it is a time to be open-minded and accept the fact lapucelle Nov 2017 #79
"...demands for 'change' from those who frame their suggestions as threats..." NurseJackie Nov 2017 #136
We will not be blackmailed by liquid diamond Nov 2017 #147
WTH are you talking about. Democrats choosing Supreme Court justices such as Justice Ginsberg. still_one Nov 2017 #84
I don't understand any of this. MGKrebs Nov 2017 #85
Right on time and predictable as ever. nt Codeine Nov 2017 #90
No, the win last night proved the success of the Resistance. It wasn't a R B Garr Nov 2017 #91
I wasn't saying it was "a secret message about Bernie". Ken Burch Nov 2017 #95
Apparently you are wrong ...the message is about healthcare ...no one other than a few are Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #98
Your OP doesnt say any of that. It says abstract things R B Garr Nov 2017 #122
The message isn't just "it's enough to get politicians who agree with Trump out". Ken Burch Nov 2017 #124
LOL, this cannot be right because the Resistance is R B Garr Nov 2017 #130
I've said nothing against the Resistance. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #165
Perriello was Bernie's candidate...he never even mentioned Northam that I heard. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #101
Perriello worked his ass off to get Northam elected too. Was amazing. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #102
Yes he did...hope he runs for a House seat...we could use him...I was very impressed. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #138
And there is no excuse for that. It is just continued R B Garr Nov 2017 #121
I actually don't see Sanders as a leader. He is an independent and has never really done the group Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #139
Actually, Perriello was refreshingly different than many ehrnst Nov 2017 #132
I agree and he did apologize about the pro-choice thing...who else has done that? Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #137
The Party is fine...I have been saying that we will win as we always have ...the big tent approach. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #96
Stop. Take a cue from Perriello and stop trashing folks who agree with you on policy emulatorloo Nov 2017 #104
Here we go.... radical noodle Nov 2017 #105
We won because we turned out voters in larger numbers than the Republicans. herding cats Nov 2017 #108
That is all a big part of it. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #110
It's old school politics, and it's what we did and won on yesterday. NT herding cats Nov 2017 #113
Turnout is all of it Ken. Voters turned out to embrace the Dem message and reject Trumpism emulatorloo Nov 2017 #120
You are. I have never bought into Republican memes. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #125
Do not tell me that Dems message is only "get Trump out". Please watch Northam's speech, it is emulatorloo Nov 2017 #128
It was a great speech....and from a Virginian! Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #144
Northam had a great speech Gothmog Nov 2017 #159
Inspect and Adapt. That is how a business, a culture, or a political party survives. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #148
Another editorial lacking any evidence to support its premise. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #149
Maybe we shouldn't be in a rush to discover Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #160
....... spicysista Nov 2017 #162
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