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Madam45for2923

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Sat Nov 11, 2017, 03:59 PM Nov 2017

We Need To Stop Making Gay Jokes About Trump And Putin. Casual homophobia yields nothing positive. [View all]

We Need To Stop Making Gay Jokes About Trump And Putin
Casual homophobia yields nothing positive.


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At the heart of jokes like these is an erroneous belief that men who have sex with other men are the ultimate failure of masculine expectations. The “comedy” within this idea reeks of a bygone era where the power of straight, white men went unchecked and people not meeting their ideals of masculinity ― namely women, gay people, trans people, people of color, minorities in general ― continued to always be the butt of the joke. Especially on late night television.

But we have moved beyond that era and into one where minorities shouldn’t have their lives ― or the ways that they have sex ― be the foundation for laughs when we’re pushing back against authority figures and institutions of power.

Because our lives are not a punchline.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/late-night-comedy-casual-homophpboa_us_5908c2bfe4b0bb2d087261de


Your Trump-Putin slashfic isn’t funny. It’s homophobic.
Jokes about Trump and Putin’s love for each other reduce being gay to a punchline.


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Liberals just can’t seem to quit homophobia when it comes to Donald Trump.

As Andrew Kahn argued at Slate, the past week has seen liberals once again weaponize anti-gay attitudes in an attempt to mock Trump’s relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/7/11/15948206/trump-putin-liberal-homophobia


I am not gay and have been doing this myself. Ms.Toad called to my attention. So thought it'd be good to discuss & think about this.
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In before "but it's OK because they hate gay people, so being called gay is extra effective!" WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #1
I don't make a joke about their connection. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #2
Kicking! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #3
If it's funny - say it.. lame54 Nov 2017 #4
People take it different ways. Good to know -& have in mind- what might bother others. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #5
Point of fact, its not funny to millions of LGBTQ folks justiceischeap Nov 2017 #19
How does implying Putin and Trump are in love Loki Liesmith Nov 2017 #28
Makes sense but maybe it comes across as a gay whistle to the LGBTQ community. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #29
K&R nt NCTraveler Nov 2017 #6
People don't take homophobia and heterosexism seriously. Behind the Aegis Nov 2017 #7
I agree that there seems to be a blind spot in people from the left, it's reason I posted OP. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #9
Bingo. nt cwydro Nov 2017 #32
Counting down for the first reply that cwydro Nov 2017 #8
What's your retort to that kind of comment? Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #10
Usually the best I can summon up is an eye roll. cwydro Nov 2017 #11
I have wondered about this, in fact Orrex Nov 2017 #21
No comedian would make that joke if 45 was a woman. cwydro Nov 2017 #22
I think RW comedians would make that joke. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #24
Lol, you might have a point, but theyd certainly get a backlash. cwydro Nov 2017 #25
From my own experience I say it is a blind spot we have. We are w/the LGBTQ community in Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #26
I know they're doing it to express something other than homophobia... moriah Nov 2017 #31
Great post (nt) Orrex Nov 2017 #33
That is absolutely and undeniably true Orrex Nov 2017 #27
It's already been posted. See upthread. yardwork Nov 2017 #13
Yeah, I see that now. cwydro Nov 2017 #14
It is true though that they make gay jokes. So what is a retort to that? Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #15
I think its been explained here in reference to how African Americans can use the N word. cwydro Nov 2017 #16
I see. Reminds me of this video on the "n' word: Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #18
That is a great video. cwydro Nov 2017 #20
Ain't it? That was my impression too when I watched yesterday for 1st time. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #23
True. treestar Nov 2017 #12
Of course not. cwydro Nov 2017 #17
Can they be seen as 2 people in love? delisen Nov 2017 #30
I think this is a good question. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #34
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