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Bucky

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22. I don't think you can link the lapse of the assault weapons ban to the drop in gun deaths.

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:32 PM

Jul 2012

It's a ridiculous link to make. There's a number of trends driving down crime rates. The most important two are increased police vigilence policies since 9/11 and the overall aging of the US population. Your argument is that an increase in the number of people walking around the streets with assault rifles has something to do with the drop in homocides. Besides being a ludicrous statement on its own terms, the argument also suffers from a lack of evidence that people are walking around carrying assault rifles where, otherwise, crimes might occur. This simply isn't happening.

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He says it is a terrorist org. permatex Jul 2012 #14

I don't know. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #21

Well... I'd wonder how this stacks up in the homeland security department. calimary Jul 2012 #27

Excellent post. thucythucy Jul 2012 #48

Your arguing from emotion, not from fact permatex Jul 2012 #53

That doesn't mean we'll give up trying, permatex. calimary Jul 2012 #57

Only if you go back to the quill and ink used in that time. permatex Jul 2012 #58

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Just countering you false statements. permatex Jul 2012 #41

Neither have I. But I *do* have an *opinion* on the matter. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #15

God save us from the day stating simple fact is "sticking up for the Right Wing" Bucky Jul 2012 #20

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That's it? That's all you got? permatex Jul 2012 #45

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I am surprised it is that high in Germany tandot Jul 2012 #5

Perhaps some of that number were American armed services people. A Simple Game Jul 2012 #7

Germany has 80 plus million people thucythucy Jul 2012 #49

I live in Germany DFW Jul 2012 #63

That is interesting. I didn't know that. tandot Jul 2012 #68

They went too far, too fast DFW Jul 2012 #69

How very, very sad. polmaven Jul 2012 #6

Gun love is akin to another fundamentalist religion in this country. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #8

I agree sellitman Jul 2012 #46

American Exceptionalism ErikJ Jul 2012 #10

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Keep up the good work!! ramikin Jul 2012 #16

9,484 gun deaths in the US = "Good Work" to you? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #18

In the past 20 years it's dropped by half. krispos42 Jul 2012 #25

Wow, look at that big drop in the 90's... Scootaloo Jul 2012 #26

Roe vs. Wade krispos42 Jul 2012 #28

The argument that women have been aborting violent criminals for the last 40 years undeterred Jul 2012 #51

Which is far more plausable than saying the Assault Weapons Ban did anything krispos42 Jul 2012 #61

I'm trying to figure out if you're yanking my chain Scootaloo Jul 2012 #56

Low unemployment rate? Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2012 #54

I don't think you can link the lapse of the assault weapons ban to the drop in gun deaths. Bucky Jul 2012 #22

I dunno... I see some pretty good evidence that it is happening quakerboy Jul 2012 #37

... Bucky Jul 2012 #38

Mathematical proof that we are drowning in Star Trek phasers? chknltl Jul 2012 #55

Maybe we're just better shots than all those other countries. tclambert Jul 2012 #17

Too many guns in the hands of too many idiots magic59 Jul 2012 #19

The stupid, it burns. krispos42 Jul 2012 #23

Try murdering 12 people and injuring 59 with a knife. Just sayin'. nt laundry_queen Jul 2012 #30

A movie theater and an icepick. krispos42 Jul 2012 #31

You're just being silly now MattBaggins Jul 2012 #34

I am being serious. krispos42 Jul 2012 #35

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That scenario would assume one person per row Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #52

I'm saying it could be done. krispos42 Jul 2012 #64

Intentional homicide rate in the US is four or five times that of Europe Spider Jerusalem Jul 2012 #32

Still, our non-gun homicide rate is as high or higher than their total homicide rate krispos42 Jul 2012 #33

Yes...a rope, the weapon of choice of most mass murderers.... sellitman Jul 2012 #47

A logical leap that I never made. krispos42 Jul 2012 #62

The NRA is so saturated with Fear Freak Overcompensators Berlum Jul 2012 #24

total scardey cats Lex Jul 2012 #59

This makes sense because there are absolutely no other differences 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #29

No one claimed there was no difference. nt Lex Jul 2012 #60

By making a direct comparison and blaming precisely 1 variable 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #65

So your theory is everyone thinks all those countries are precisely Lex Jul 2012 #66

I believe people will conveniently ignore those differences 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #67

Checking the numbers quakerboy Jul 2012 #36