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moriah

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22. If the issue is that Dems in the House and Senate...

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:56 AM

Nov 2017

... have seats at the Convention but only if they win the seat in the General, then yes, the fact it's harder to get a minority elected in the General because of partisan gerrymandering does affect minority representation in the DNC.

Which, at least to the extent that I thought understand what she was saying, was the point.

But think about this for a second -- how does strong minority representation in our Party hurt the party as a whole? The idea of the big tent and supporting each other would encourage me, at least, to want us to truly embrace intersectionality and all of us little groups speaking up as one when any of us are deprived of rights. Because it *does* affect everyone when even one is deprived of basic civil rights...

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The Congressional Black Caucus strongly opposes calls to abolish superdelegates. [View all] pnwmom Nov 2017 OP

2016 articles elleng Nov 2017 #1

I said that. And their position hasn't changed one iota. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #2

It would be better to get rid of the undemocratic caucus system 4now Nov 2017 #3

Yes it would. comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #5

I agree. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #12

"although it has never changed the outcome of a primary" loyalsister Nov 2017 #4

It is silly to think that Barbara Lee, for instance, influences her voters pnwmom Nov 2017 #10

Seriously? loyalsister Nov 2017 #27

Yes. She has loyal constituents by virtue of her being a good representative -- pnwmom Nov 2017 #28

It's not because she's a super delegate loyalsister Nov 2017 #29

No, you've got it backwards. She's a superdelegate so she can have more influence pnwmom Nov 2017 #30

I support this candidate and you should too loyalsister Nov 2017 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author David__77 Nov 2017 #6

I wish the GOP had a superdelegate system EffieBlack Nov 2017 #7

I agree with CBC Gothmog Nov 2017 #8

This is the stupidest argument I've ever heard Azathoth Nov 2017 #9

Black people are gerrymandered out of fair representation in the House pnwmom Nov 2017 #11

GOP gerrymandering only applies to general elections Azathoth Nov 2017 #13

And getting minority Democrats in the House requires them winning in the General. moriah Nov 2017 #19

Her point doesn't remain because it has absolutely nothing to do with convention delegates Azathoth Nov 2017 #20

If the issue is that Dems in the House and Senate... moriah Nov 2017 #22

I think you're misunderstanding what she's saying Azathoth Nov 2017 #25

Not true. The same district lines that pack African Americans into certain districts pnwmom Nov 2017 #23

we choose our delegates based on those districts dsc Nov 2017 #37

So if I'm reading the CBC statement correctly, the only reason they want to keep the superdelegate PatsFan87 Nov 2017 #14

An even better question is why should they have a right to shape the convention at all? Azathoth Nov 2017 #15

Because otherwise African Americans would be grossly underrepresented in the convention pnwmom Nov 2017 #17

You have posted this more than once, and you still haven't justified it Azathoth Nov 2017 #18

You don't understand. Districts are gerrymandered along racial lines to reduce pnwmom Nov 2017 #21

I don't entirely agree Azathoth Nov 2017 #24

Because African Americans are so heavily Democratic, gerrymandering along party lines pnwmom Nov 2017 #26

only democrats vote in primaries. to do otherwise is to commit suicide nt msongs Nov 2017 #16

IMO the super delegate system is inherentily undemocratic. CentralMass Nov 2017 #32

+1000 Kentonio Nov 2017 #33

Okay JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #35

I rbink caucuses should be replaced with primaries and the superdekegates should be scrapped.. . CentralMass Nov 2017 #36

Agree. Caucuses have no place in our party octoberlib Nov 2017 #40

I stand with the CBC mcar Nov 2017 #34

2 things 1 in my state any way... congressperson is automatic super delegate. They don't have to dembotoz Nov 2017 #38

So do I. SO DO I!! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #39

Break down by the former DNC chair... disillusioned73 Nov 2017 #41