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nadine_mn

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48. At the risk of sounding like a hypocrite

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 12:03 PM

Nov 2017

This comes across as more like a sad attempt at humor (the kind some guys think is hilarious) rather than the level of sexual assault in Cosby, Weinstein, Louis CK et al

The skit was poor humor with the kiss, the pic of him "groping" her (he is barely touching her and seems to be mugging for the camera...like when guys draw dicks in Sharpie on friends who pass out).. this is shit that is embarrassing and humiliating for women that a lot of men don't understand.

Al's love for Frannie seems so sincere and so real, I find it hard to believe it's anything more than stupid lame ass humor. I mean if your plan is sexual assault...would you really do it on a plane in front of a bunch of witness (some who would kick your ass)?

That doesn't make it ok and it doesn't mean he shouldn't own it and apologize. I just don't find it on the same level of isolating a woman in a hotel room or drugging her.

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All Franken also? [View all] SHRED Nov 2017 OP

No!!! Noooooo! femmocrat Nov 2017 #1

Okay, sorry, but if this is real, Franken is done. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #2

"If"?? nt B2G Nov 2017 #21

Yes, if... let's hear from AL Franken first before drawing any final conclusions... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #27

No, you did not. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #34

Okay, thanks. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #39

I am probably one of DU's more hyper-sensitive people when it comes to this issue. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #54

Though I reserve final judgment, I agree with you Orrex Nov 2017 #49

Oh he is not done. trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #109

I think a lot of groping behavior will be exposed among our side as well. hlthe2b Nov 2017 #3

Men acting badly crosses party lines. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #8

Gosh, it's almost like the problem is men, or how we see masculinity in our culture, or how society WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #4

Douchebags are party agnostic. dpd3672 Nov 2017 #11

. Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #5

Yes, goddamn it. octoberlib Nov 2017 #6

I think there edhopper Nov 2017 #7

Like what? The Genealogist Nov 2017 #13

I want to hear his side. edhopper Nov 2017 #15

I think that is the most prudent thing to do. OnDoutside Nov 2017 #45

What the hell? The Genealogist Nov 2017 #9

oh no. Well this is terrible. OKNancy Nov 2017 #10

Awful... always thought Al had potential to make an excellent presidential candidate. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #37

If he assaults 14 women he'll be qualified to run as a Republican Orrex Nov 2017 #55

Oh, hell! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #12

It's enough for me BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #61

Looks like a photoshop to me?? kentuck Nov 2017 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author madaboutharry Nov 2017 #36

So hopin it's a fake, but I doubt the victim would come out with this if not corroborated... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #51

Its not. Agschmid Nov 2017 #59

Here's more... from her pintobean Nov 2017 #62

No way. WinkyDink Nov 2017 #64

Franken acknowledged that he did that, so. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #72

It doesn't look fake, looks like he wasn't actually touching her though. moriah Nov 2017 #90

He wasn't touching her Bradical79 Nov 2017 #99

Essentially the equivalent of drawing a dick on a sleeping face. moriah Nov 2017 #100

Based on what? Are you a graphic artist? n/t USALiberal Nov 2017 #117

He's done. AJT Nov 2017 #16

Damnit all to hell. PearliePoo2 Nov 2017 #17

Did anyone really think this kind of behavior was limited to republican men? CrispyQ Nov 2017 #18

Is anyone making the argument sexual harassment is limited to one party? LanternWaste Nov 2017 #38

No. It is a male thing. Caliman73 Nov 2017 #81

This has been a part of the male culture in this country forever. kentuck Nov 2017 #19

I think I'm gonna be sick. lamp_shade Nov 2017 #20

Just read the report, so this started as an actual skit in a comedy show... HipChick Nov 2017 #22

She's sleeping on the plane, flying home in the picture. He's groping her in her sleep. dpd3672 Nov 2017 #25

Except hes not actually groping her in the picture justiceischeap Nov 2017 #32

Don't see how Al spins this. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #42

Sleeping with a flak jacket and helmet on? kcr Nov 2017 #107

Its not in that picture! Docreed2003 Nov 2017 #26

Exactly..folks are just going with salacious headlines.. HipChick Nov 2017 #29

Actually it's more than that DesertRat Nov 2017 #53

You read the story and think this is a skit? Yupster Nov 2017 #31

This looks like a staged photo. lapucelle Nov 2017 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #67

I hope the photographer comes foward. lapucelle Nov 2017 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #115

There's nothing funny about the "joke". lapucelle Nov 2017 #119

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The only solution is to put more women in positions of power. JaneQPublic Nov 2017 #23

Absolutely get the red out Nov 2017 #30

How completely wrong that idea is. And completely sexist. moda253 Nov 2017 #68

Sounds like a re-purposed argument against Affirmative Action. (nt) JaneQPublic Nov 2017 #80

lol. Inkfreak Nov 2017 #74

So you are for a Michele Bachmann/Joni Ernst 2020 ticket nadine_mn Nov 2017 #87

Of course not. JaneQPublic Nov 2017 #92

If you honestly think Moore's systematic predation of TEENAGE nadine_mn Nov 2017 #93

That's not what I said. JaneQPublic Nov 2017 #96

Seems would be better to just elect women! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #24

I'm good with that! radical noodle Nov 2017 #97

I'm veering off the subject a bit .... LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #110

:( sakabatou Nov 2017 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author madaboutharry Nov 2017 #33

It's a bad look for Al. I'm disappointed. Let's see if it's a pattern. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Nov 2017 #40

I don't get what you're saying. What are you saying? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #60

So... she was asking for it? pintobean Nov 2017 #71

Interesting take. Shaming is cool. Inkfreak Nov 2017 #76

Obviously a woman like that sarisataka Nov 2017 #86

Is he touching her or are his hands hovering above her? Sanity Claws Nov 2017 #41

Maybe some of you missed the part about B2G Nov 2017 #43

Don't forget the devil horns he made on some of her pix. oasis Nov 2017 #108

Brace yourselves. Many are about to learn something they have been.... NCTraveler Nov 2017 #44

Well, this is a kick in the head! But it should also be a wake up call. Grammy23 Nov 2017 #46

Hear, hear! Excellent response! Morris64 Nov 2017 #104

The number of people making excuses about the photo is unsurprising and disappointing. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #47

Well you're going to have to get a bigger album in that case. OnDoutside Nov 2017 #58

I would respond in the exact same way I did in my previous comment justiceischeap Nov 2017 #63

At the risk of sounding like a hypocrite nadine_mn Nov 2017 #48

He badgered her into 'practicing' the kiss B2G Nov 2017 #52

Assume he's a Republican and tell me if you'd have written the same thing. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2017 #78

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #83

Oh you mean like "locker room talk" forthemiddle Nov 2017 #84

Nailed it nadine_mn Nov 2017 #91

I love your honesty forthemiddle Nov 2017 #94

Franken statement to the effect that OnDoutside Nov 2017 #50

This is right wing bullshit. I don't believe it. Greybnk48 Nov 2017 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #77

It was obviously a joke and Franken was on a USO tour working as a comedian. Vinca Nov 2017 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #116

Wtf was he thinking? Damn it Al Thrill Nov 2017 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #79

Well this is disappointing ... whether true or not KPN Nov 2017 #66

Franken apologized for the photo.. kentuck Nov 2017 #69

Can't escape the photo (I guess HE knows it's real), but the alleged "kiss" (not much mutual there) WinkyDink Nov 2017 #73

He didn't say he didn't remember the kiss Yupster Nov 2017 #82

So disappointing romana Nov 2017 #70

I think Franken should be censured by the Senate Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #75

I'm hurt and disappointed. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2017 #88

I disagree that we are at a defining moment. moda253 Nov 2017 #89

He needed to come out with a strong apology SHRED Nov 2017 #85

Agreed. Morris64 Nov 2017 #113

That is shameful rusty fender Nov 2017 #95

didnt happen, staged photo for skit, she is lying Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #102

nope, SHE IS LYING Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #101

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #111

Get Ready for a Bunch of Allegations Against Popular Democrats Leith Nov 2017 #103

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yeesh.... Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #112

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