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Hortensis

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84. I agree. The photo shows he was "groping" air.

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:46 PM

Nov 2017

And almost certainly it was normal enough behavior for that group that spent a lot of long hours together, a nothing-burger at the moment.

But at best it was vulgar and unseemly, and, who knows, maybe she was offended when she saw it.
In any case, it definitely is not passing the picture-surfacing-years-later test. He's no dummy, and no hypocritical Roy Moore. He knows it.

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NEW/Updated: Statement From Al Franken: [View all] kpete Nov 2017 OP

I'm glad he kept it short and simple. lamp_shade Nov 2017 #1

Thankie Lucinda Nov 2017 #2

Good enough for me..n/t monmouth4 Nov 2017 #3

me too HipChick Nov 2017 #7

It's not enough. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #4

Not enough sackcloth and ashes ? OnDoutside Nov 2017 #9

A press release is not enough. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #11

I'm sure there will be more, but this is a good appropriate start. Fox/Brietbart will be all over OnDoutside Nov 2017 #18

Those are the only options? NCTraveler Nov 2017 #15

Public Flogging ? Death by Lethal injection ? Sentenced to life in Alabama ? OnDoutside Nov 2017 #23

I do appreciate the laugh. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #30

;) OnDoutside Nov 2017 #32

Sentenced to life in Alabama! David__77 Nov 2017 #69

I agree. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #12

He humiliated her with that picture. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #20

I'm not sure I'm willing to make that assumption. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #24

She didn't describe groping - she described seeing the photo Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #51

Read the rehearsal allegation. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #56

I read the rehearsal allegation and I see the picture of the alleged "groping" Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #64

I did. I read her entire statement before I responded to you. Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #82

What is there left to say? DetlefK Nov 2017 #16

"I resign." VermontKevin Nov 2017 #21

Nyet. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #26

Oooh. OnDoutside Nov 2017 #29

Volk v ovech'yey shkurye. It knows no political bounds. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #34

Uh huh BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #38

Why? DetlefK Nov 2017 #37

"something which he doesn't remember" NCTraveler Nov 2017 #27

I beg your pardon. He DOES remember it. Differently than how she describes it. DetlefK Nov 2017 #41

Thank you. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #42

For some on the "left" maxrandb Nov 2017 #78

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #104

Then precisely what reaction is warranted? LanternWaste Nov 2017 #25

At the minimum, a public, personal apology for taking such a picture. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #31

willing to be investigated is not enough?... lame54 Nov 2017 #87

His initial public statement was not enough, and apparently the Senator agreed with me. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #92

Works for me. Thank you, Senator. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #5

The only thing I can say about this is that he admitted some interaction at least. tonyt53 Nov 2017 #6

Not enough. How DOES he remember the rehearsal? Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #8

He has asked for an investigation jberryhill Nov 2017 #101

Thanks. I posted this earlier in the day, before I saw his longer response. Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #103

Lame... sorry. Nothing funny about sexual assault... but, hey, that's just me. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #10

There's something funny about seeing an obviously staged photo maxrandb Nov 2017 #80

I'm disappointed in Al. Let's hope this wasn't a pattern. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #13

What else could he say? Grammy23 Nov 2017 #14

It's not doctored... lame54 Nov 2017 #39

I think the photo intended to find humor in copping a feel through a flak jacket Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #57

He could do better. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #17

I believe him 100%. Greybnk48 Nov 2017 #19

As do I BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #22

A right-wing hit job, it's a 3-fer ... Distraction from Moore & GOP activities, click-driving Aimee in OKC Nov 2017 #60

I am thinking the same thing. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #105

I thought the photo was meant to be funny too. underthematrix Nov 2017 #28

Funny to the asleep woman? VermontKevin Nov 2017 #36

Do you think shes actually sleeping in that chair? Really? writes3000 Nov 2017 #46

Do you think she's not? Really? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #48

Yes. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #58

I'm not saying it was appropriate. It's in poor taste. underthematrix Nov 2017 #70

Not asleep, it is a skit. She is lying. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #76

That's not part of the skit..it's the flight home. AncientGeezer Nov 2017 #79

"Sorry" and ""I don't remember" and "Just trying to be funny" JaneQPublic Nov 2017 #33

He did not say he did not remember the rehearsal Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #45

His answer for me is NOT sufficient. JaneQPublic Nov 2017 #52

Leeann Tweeden is very right wing, with a somewhat different Hortensis Nov 2017 #35

Wow. Just wow. I am shocked at your post. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #40

Lol. I just bet you are. Don't like THIS picture as much? Hortensis Nov 2017 #44

I didn't click on that picture. The only picture that matters is the one Franken took. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #47

They're both worth 1000 words, including the pretend grope, Hortensis Nov 2017 #54

Message: See - here's the good girl. We can believe her when she says she didn't consent. Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #90

Even more complication, the photographer says they were Hortensis Nov 2017 #91

I was addressing your messaging. nt Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #93

Al Franken has called for an ethics probe of himself. Hortensis Nov 2017 #94

I was addressing your slut-shaming messaging. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #95

And yet you're the one using that ugly word and term. Hortensis Nov 2017 #96

I'm accurately labeling what you have done in this thread Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #97

Ms. Toad, feedback from a real, lifelong feminist, Hortensis Nov 2017 #98

You're not reading the threads very carefully - it is there by many other posters Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #99

Well, end of this. You either get it or you don't. Hortensis Nov 2017 #100

In other words, Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #102

Non consenting to what...he wasn't touching her. Now if he did put his hands on her Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #67

I agree. The photo shows he was "groping" air. Hortensis Nov 2017 #84

"the credibility of this accuser?" MichMary Nov 2017 #61

This goes to truth, not her sex life, which is not mentioned. Hortensis Nov 2017 #63

Nice victim blaming Roland99 Nov 2017 #62

I don't think there is a victim, except for the intended one of course. Hortensis Nov 2017 #66

You may find those pictures vulgar but plenty do not. I don't think that should Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #68

I MEANT the airplane picture with Sen. Franken Hortensis Nov 2017 #86

It does NOT go to her credibilty. Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #88

Fox is desperate to deflect away from Moore. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #43

Well that could backfire for them. If Franken got to go Moore got to not even RUN Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #65

You can do better than this. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #49

No, I really can't. TRUTH MATTERS. Hortensis Nov 2017 #75

What on earth does a half-naked photo of her have to do with her political beliefs? Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #89

+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #106

Her posing for anything in a provocative manner does not excuse non consensual contact Roland99 Nov 2017 #59

+1000. But it does undermine her credibility in describing Hortensis Nov 2017 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author eissa Nov 2017 #72

Ha! cwydro Nov 2017 #81

Even acting in a porno would not make it okay to grope her Ezior Nov 2017 #85

Ill wait to see what he does and if theres a pattern. nolabear Nov 2017 #53

You can't apologize for what you're not admitting you did. Orsino Nov 2017 #55

He said he remembers it just fine, but differently. I really want to hear how he forced her to kiss Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #71

Great statement by Al eissa Nov 2017 #74

That picture is bad optics Not Ruth Nov 2017 #77

This is good workinclasszero Nov 2017 #83

Foo-kin-bee-YOO-tee-ful!!! rocktivity Nov 2017 #107