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hamsterjill

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28. Okay, as an old but very determined feminist - - -
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 03:38 PM
Nov 2017

There needs to be an investigation. Franken has suggested that there be an investigation, and we need to honor the fact that he's willing to undergo the scrutiny. If he did what is suggested, then he's a jerk.

But I have to warn here - there is a real history of Democrats wanting to be so "politically correct" that they sometimes start eating their own. What this is (in my opinion) is no where NEAR what Roy Moore is accused of (i.e., a 14-year old child).

Yes, we investigate and continue to insist that sexual harassment of ANY kind is wrong. But let's not be so quick to try so hard to be "equal" of our disgust for the act that we forget that there are degrees of this act just like there are degrees of other crimes.

During the campaign, I was chastised many times by Republican friends when I brought up the "grab 'em by the pussy" remark that Trump made. I vocalized my disgust. They would immediately go into the "well, Bill Clinton did...." yada, yada, yada. But to me what Bill Clinton did NOT do was to force himself on a woman without consent. I've never heard Monica Lewinsky say that she was forced to do anything.

So, let's allow the investigation to proceed. Let's watch Al Franken and see that he does cooperate. Let's just see how this plays out before we mock the woman OR before we demonize the man.

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Video of Tweeden at USO show [View all] Cattledog Nov 2017 OP
Then she makes up a story, probably with the help of hannity, about how Al Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #1
Oh I have no doubt that the story and account is rooted in truth but it has been Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #4
Right, they were in the same place on the planet, other than that, not so much Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #6
I believe that she didn't want to kiss him...but she did agree to do it. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #9
Nope, dont believe any of that, if Al says so, then it is so. He wont lie. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #11
Well to be fair....I would say just about everybody lies. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #15
Not about sexual assault. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #18
People have lied about everything including sexual assault. I read her full story and from what I Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #23
There was another guy in that photo though! Initech Nov 2017 #8
Did Anyone Catch the Magazine Reference in the Introduction? Leith Nov 2017 #2
What's your point here? melman Nov 2017 #20
It's not clear to me what you're trying to say, here. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #3
Then she should not have agreed to kiss him. Did you read her account Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #5
I have my own doubts about this story but... lame54 Nov 2017 #7
Yet we will continue to be bewildered B2G Nov 2017 #10
I have a few posts of my own... lame54 Nov 2017 #13
Did you have the same comments on the Moore accusors? Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #19
I defended them to Conservatives. moriah Nov 2017 #25
Did I defend them on DU? B2G Nov 2017 #27
It's just some background...shows what kind of atmosphere it is. She says that in the piece that Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #12
Yes - read that too... lame54 Nov 2017 #16
So what? pintobean Nov 2017 #14
Well know whats really up if shes a guest on Hannity tonight. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #17
And, my friend, threads like this remind us who here at DU is Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #21
okay ... so? fishwax Nov 2017 #22
Whether her story is true or not.... usedtobedemgurl Nov 2017 #24
She's a Republican? rainin Nov 2017 #26
Okay, as an old but very determined feminist - - - hamsterjill Nov 2017 #28
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