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In reply to the discussion: To The Franken Must Resign Crowd [View all]pat_k
(13,393 posts)4. I don't know about RW "hit job," but...
... any attempts to draw a parallel between a disgusting demonstration of misogynistic attitudes that pervade our culture, and the criminally abusive conduct that ended the careers of people like Robert Packwood or Brock Adams, are absurd.
And so are the calls for him to resign.
As I said in another post:
I'm disgusted with Franken, as he obviously is with himself. The photo puts a black spot on his image that can't be erased. He did all he could -- expressed his disgust and his recognition of how destructive such conduct is. All he can do now is continue to live his life, serve with integrity, and demonstrate by his actions the extent to which he is reformed.
Given how deeply ingrained racism and misogyny are in our culture, sometimes I think that there are only three groups:
(1) Victims of racism/misogyny,
(2) Unapologetic racists/misogynists, and
(3) People who are struggling to confront their failings, and doing battle with racist and misogynistic attitudes, thinking, and conduct.
If anyone in group 3, who was once in group 2, were barred from serving in Congress, I think there would be an awful lot of empty seats in the House and Senate.
Given how deeply ingrained racism and misogyny are in our culture, sometimes I think that there are only three groups:
(1) Victims of racism/misogyny,
(2) Unapologetic racists/misogynists, and
(3) People who are struggling to confront their failings, and doing battle with racist and misogynistic attitudes, thinking, and conduct.
If anyone in group 3, who was once in group 2, were barred from serving in Congress, I think there would be an awful lot of empty seats in the House and Senate.
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Franken may have pushed past bounds on kiss, but nothing like a 30 yo Moore assaulting a 14 yo.
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#1
What makes the whole thing reek to me is that Roger Stone & some creep from Infowars
catbyte
Nov 2017
#21
Franken said do an investigation. So do one. I'm not calling for him to resign.
EllieBC
Nov 2017
#24
I disagree. I don't see anybody saying they should ignore the allegations just because
catbyte
Nov 2017
#32
I don't doubt her at all....however, aren't we able to understand degrees of bad behavior???
adigal
Nov 2017
#65
Are you aware that cretin Roger Stone tweeted last night that something was coming to Franken today?
brush
Nov 2017
#69
Wow, missed that. That's very interesting. Since Franken is smiling at the camera,
R B Garr
Nov 2017
#91
the details are somewhat different. If she told the story to people before, I'd like to hear
yurbud
Nov 2017
#93
I'm basically with you, but a bit more open to possibility of either one telling the truth, or both.
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#110
Whether it is the same as Moore is not the point. We know it is not the same. No
Squinch
Nov 2017
#2
"Starting to look like." Hopefully it turns out to be that. We don't know yet if it is. Before
Squinch
Nov 2017
#12
Exactly. He will hopefully become a loud voice saying, "Obviously I get how you
Squinch
Nov 2017
#29
correct; i think some people are being willfully ignorant about this. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Nov 2017
#139
sure just google search her name and nude photos and switch to images and there ya go.
Kirk Lover
Nov 2017
#104
And I hope that sways his voters if he decides to run for reelection. I don't want to see his seat
SaschaHM
Nov 2017
#45
My gut feeling is that this will make him a very vocal proponent for women's issues.
Squinch
Nov 2017
#49
Minnesotans know Al. They're never going to unseat him. Ever. Not even with a Koch operative funding
ancianita
Nov 2017
#50
She said she was asleep. She is assuming she was touched from the pic. Don't make stuff up.
Cattledog
Nov 2017
#87
In no way does this warrant his resignation. I'm seeing that shit on twitter from resistance
Kirk Lover
Nov 2017
#27
The Republican Moore should be prosecuted if the things I'm hearing are true.
rockfordfile
Nov 2017
#28
Whether she is a sex symbol or a "nearly naked model" has no place in this discussion.
Squinch
Nov 2017
#34
I have to agree with Squinch. She did a Playboy portfolio and had a boob job to market herself
Jim Beard
Nov 2017
#103
This should be its own OP, the photographer tweeted this but I can't find it.
uponit7771
Nov 2017
#90
Be warned - there is a fake FB meme floating around, purported to be from the photographer
Adenoid_Hynkel
Nov 2017
#112
Being busy has sure helped put this in perspective. Having ONLY the picture to
R B Garr
Nov 2017
#86