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OhioBlue

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79. That's what I am seeing in the photo too.

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 11:30 PM

Nov 2017

Honestly, I'm still trying to sort through my thoughts on this. When I first read a facebook post about it, a comment said that he "fondled her breasts" while she was asleep and it was captured in a pic. Then I saw the actual pic and it doesn't look like that at all. It looks like he is (stupidly) posing for the camera and acting like his hands are over her breasts but she is wearing a flack jacket and it doesn't look like his hands are even in contact with the flack jacket. It seems like something that was stupid and could be insulting to a person, but if his hands aren't even in contact with the flack jacket, it is quite a stretch for a lot of the headlines and outrage IMO.

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To anyone who thinks Al Franken should resign, I ask only this: [View all] Chasstev365 Nov 2017 OP

+1 nt Phoenix61 Nov 2017 #1

I would never want those people to be on a jury if I was accused of something. Cattledog Nov 2017 #2

that's a good point. for 30 years we let 1500 radio stations pollute juries. certainot Nov 2017 #105

If this is a lone incident he shouldn't resign. I just hope this isn't a pattern. NT DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #3

Resignation is maybe too easy. dawg day Nov 2017 #8

I absolutely agree. ariadne0614 Nov 2017 #32

There is no reason why this should lead to "disgrace." His accuser has accepted his apology. Squinch Nov 2017 #42

She claims that he forcibly kissed her against her will oberliner Nov 2017 #92

For that reason, I think his request for an inquiry is smart, and I think it should go forward. Squinch Nov 2017 #96

Agreed oberliner Nov 2017 #97

Agree with both your posts. The argument for not Hortensis Nov 2017 #99

Yes. But we need to handle it correctly. It will be the "whatabout" for years to come, Squinch Nov 2017 #100

Good point. Let's hope their party burns and is reborn Hortensis Nov 2017 #103

Actually Al agrees with that also NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #106

"She says he did this, he seems to be saying he didn't." LudwigPastorius Nov 2017 #107

So the inquiry, which would include the testimony from others who were in the room, Squinch Nov 2017 #109

I'm not sure that either one of them have said that... LudwigPastorius Nov 2017 #114

One of the other people who was in the room has come forward and tweeted that it wasn't Squinch Nov 2017 #115

I hope the Senate ethics committee finds this "escort" and gets his testimony on record. LudwigPastorius Nov 2017 #116

Spitzer was caught with a prostitute. SergeStorms Nov 2017 #68

I don't think Spitzer should have resigned. dawg day Nov 2017 #82

I was disappointed... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #88

Yup, that was a Roger Stone hit job also dhol82 Nov 2017 #90

Spitzer has still been paying for sex years after he left office JI7 Nov 2017 #118

Very important point. Paka Nov 2017 #21

Don't go there VMA131Marine Nov 2017 #26

No, but Trump was in a position of power over a lot of people.... LisaM Nov 2017 #30

Yep..Simple as that.. busterbrown Nov 2017 #41

I totally agree. Arkansas Granny Nov 2017 #4

This stinks of the same bullshit maranadem Nov 2017 #5

It doesn't take much for some people here to start turning on our own without smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #6

SORry for being cross with you earlier today. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #7

Gotta watch those low-post messages. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #9

Indeed. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #14

Exactly. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #98

I hope its not case closed. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #10

What am I missing? Wouldn't it only include him? Squinch Nov 2017 #12

No. They could question the photographer, the man sitting on the right side of the photo, pnwmom Nov 2017 #13

I am assuming that's what we'll discover, but I hope the investigation happens. Squinch Nov 2017 #17

Im with you. n/t ariadne0614 Nov 2017 #33

I agree on all points. yardwork Nov 2017 #67

No, everyone is not saying that. I've said repeatedly that sexual assault is never funny pnwmom Nov 2017 #73

I did misspeak and will edit. It was not everyone, but I do see it way too much here. Squinch Nov 2017 #81

Actually that wouldn't necessarily mean he would be vindicated mythology Nov 2017 #70

It would mean he was vindicated as not having been guilty of the charge of assault. pnwmom Nov 2017 #74

What about the accusation that he forcibly kissed her against her will? oberliner Nov 2017 #91

Have you seen this?: Squinch Nov 2017 #101

Also... Homeoutside Nov 2017 #102

Yes, I imagine it would only include him. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #19

I'm assuming it would be to get it on the official record that this was a joke (creepy though it Squinch Nov 2017 #20

I would like to see Tweeden under oath. I just heard she is on the cover of December PlayBoy Mag. TryLogic Nov 2017 #22

. Squinch Nov 2017 #23

She's an anti feminist pig? WyLoochka Nov 2017 #84

Because she has playboy photos? Squinch Nov 2017 #93

Yes she sells herself to those WyLoochka Nov 2017 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Nov 2017 #112

I was just thinking something along those same lines SnowCritter Nov 2017 #52

To me, her acceptance of his apology should end this. Squinch Nov 2017 #11

Is there a link to her acceptance? SHRED Nov 2017 #16

Yes, right on the DU front page. longship Nov 2017 #18

Thanks SHRED Nov 2017 #27

No problemo, my friend. longship Nov 2017 #36

Agree. Sincere apology, and a sincere acceptance. Hoyt Nov 2017 #37

I just don't get this ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #55

You honestly don't understand the difference between what's alleged about Moore Crunchy Frog Nov 2017 #75

you answered most of your own question Larrybanal Nov 2017 #78

You poor, poor dear. I bet you're frustrated, aren't you? Squinch Nov 2017 #94

And if she hadn't? WyLoochka Nov 2017 #87

Do you think we'd need to do that? Because I certainly never said anything of the sort. Squinch Nov 2017 #95

I say snort Nov 2017 #15

No, never do that! Not in this and not in anything else. Squinch Nov 2017 #24

K&R uponit7771 Nov 2017 #25

Franken can defend himself. Focus on the Tax Bill Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #28

classtev365 marieo1 Nov 2017 #29

I think it's just fine to take time to sort out the stories Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #31

We hold ourselves to a higher standard Blue Streak Science Nov 2017 #34

When they go low, we go high. LisaL Nov 2017 #35

When they go low, we go high Blue Streak Science Nov 2017 #38

Until we do MFM008 Nov 2017 #71

+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #86

No. They should immediately launch an impartial investigation... Raster Nov 2017 #39

That's what I am seeing in the photo too. OhioBlue Nov 2017 #79

Get real. Resign? Enjoy your stay on DU. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #40

for real there is a petition put out by the Raine Nov 2017 #89

Perfection or nothing? He apologized, she accepted. uppityperson Nov 2017 #43

Suggestion Duppers Nov 2017 #45

Yeah, Ill take a hard pass on the sanctimony. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #46

Oy. And there I was saying that no one here was so dim as to be calling for Squinch Nov 2017 #47

D-I-V-E-R-S-I-O-N. Raster Nov 2017 #49

Not offensive enough for a resignation. nt 7962 Nov 2017 #56

Welcome to DU! IronLionZion Nov 2017 #57

Totally disagree - womanofthehills Nov 2017 #66

Sorry, no. Crunchy Frog Nov 2017 #77

Franken will set his bar higher than any republithug would be able to clear. fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #83

Interesting you chose to advocate for a loyal Dem's resignation with your first ever post hueymahl Nov 2017 #113

That BS Break time Nov 2017 #117

Sure, right Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #119

Investigate - yes. Resign - no. Franken is an effective Senator representing his state. Shrike47 Nov 2017 #44

Yes, a Republican diversion. Duppers Nov 2017 #48

K & R SunSeeker Nov 2017 #50

Yeah, fallout87 Nov 2017 #51

Seriously? Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #53

Yeah... fallout87 Nov 2017 #58

Why are you make the Republican false equivalency case for them? Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #65

I don't think he should resign if this is all there is. 7962 Nov 2017 #54

This really sucks no matter what. I predicted days ago that we could expect some of ours too, brewens Nov 2017 #59

In the interest of fairness and justice, Im willing to punish Al Franken TeamPooka Nov 2017 #60

Your 3 is inconsistent with your 5 brooklynite Nov 2017 #61

If this is a stupid thing he did, Rustynaerduwell Nov 2017 #62

What Franken did was disgusting, a tRump move elmac Nov 2017 #63

Another fucking distraction. bdamomma Nov 2017 #64

different for a democrat but not a repub AllaN01Bear Nov 2017 #69

This rush to judgement on Franken is strange. cwydro Nov 2017 #72

Big fat hairy difference between a comedy gig gone raunchy. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2017 #76

Accountability from a genuine soul... Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #80

I'm wondering how much more "purity" is going to be required for this too. nt fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #85

Everyone just chill - it is simply a matter of waiting out this news cycle jimlup Nov 2017 #104

Agree Nitram Nov 2017 #108

It's not a false equivalence... Orsino Nov 2017 #110