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In reply to the discussion: Franken needs to put this thing to rest, one way or the other [View all]Azathoth
(4,677 posts)55. I said the photo doesn't appear to show him touching her breasts
That's my opinion. Maybe she disagrees. Or maybe she believes it was snapped the instant before his fingers made contact. As I typed my original post, my phrasing implicitly assumed the later interpretation. But maybe that's wrong. Maybe she believes the photo does show his hands on her breasts. Or maybe it actually DOES show him touching her and I just can't see it. Either way, she has stated that he groped her.
You, apparently, are not willing to accept that you disagree about whether the photo supports her allegations - and rather than live with that perhaps uncomfortable tension, have repeatedly attributed an additional accusation to her that I see no evidence that she has actually made - that he "went on" to grope her. It is not picayune linguistic parsing.
This is the essence of picayune parsing. English prose is not mathematically precise. You have now spent post after post trying to build some kind of case that my use of the four letters "go on" proves that I have invented an "additional accusation" on her part -- as if I'm implying he approached her and groped her at a later date. This kind of word game strains the bounds of good faith argumentation. If the three words "go on to" were stricken from my OP (and you're welcome to do so if you feel inclined), the intended meaning of the sentence (and the entire post) would stand unchanged, and everything you have posted would be moot.
At this point, there is nothing for me to do but leave it to readers to decide whether I have concocted some further allegation on her part.
On edit: For anyone reading, I should point out that the title of the original article was Al Franken accused of forcibly kissing, groping Leeann Tweeden, for whatever that's worth.
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If Moore wins and ends up being seated the GOP will drop this like a hot potato.
BannonsLiver
Nov 2017
#7
Yeah because making hay over Franken would make everyone forget about Moore.
BannonsLiver
Nov 2017
#26
Not as much as I love self assured people who somehow believe their flawed logic is profound.
BannonsLiver
Nov 2017
#32
You must have been a real pillar of support for President Obama during the birther years.
BannonsLiver
Nov 2017
#42
Franken is, next to Warren, one of the most visible progressives in the Senate
Azathoth
Nov 2017
#10
Yes, drop out. And your clumsy refusal to engage with anything I said is duly noted
Azathoth
Nov 2017
#11
I lived in Mpls when Al was on Air Americaloved that radio show. I have a soft
riversedge
Nov 2017
#28
He's getting a lot of pressure to resign, and even being attacked by other Dems.
OliverQ
Nov 2017
#29
I really hope you don't think this linguistic parsing is going to achieve anything
Azathoth
Nov 2017
#50
I agree. Asking for an "ethics investigation" without explaining his side now is like a promo for
jalan48
Nov 2017
#38
This is, perhaps, the best objective analysis of the Al Franken situation I have read here on DU.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#51