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uponit7771

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57. Character counts and so does the situation

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 07:36 PM

Nov 2017

... so I don't think its a "unless its my party" situation given the character of those involved.

There's valid .. RATIONAL ... reasons to be skeptical of Trumpers and their ilk especially Stone being involved in any way.

Your post seem to dismiss these concerns outright

The fact that Franken apologized and she accepted aside, I don't see a "grope" in the stupid over the top pic that was taken of Fraken.

Again, I'm not going to throw Trumper character out of the equation WHEN its coupled with the rest of Trumplican KKKlan like Stone tweeting shit earlier is in the context.

I don't see this as a my party is better situation ... people SHOULD be rationally skeptical giving the facts.

Thx for your input

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