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FBaggins

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64. It's almost certainly a hit job... but that doesn't mean that it isn't true.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:39 PM
Nov 2017

The timing of the Moore allegations are a hit job too (meaning that political operatives learned about it and intentionally waited until it could win us a Senate seat).

That doesn't mean that the allegations aren't true.

The jokes may have been juvenile and in poor taste, but it doesn't look like harassment.

There's no question that it was harassment. It doesn't look like it was assault (though the alleged kiss may have been).

k and r Achilleaze Nov 2017 #1
This was on the plane ride home Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #2
The escort is only saying he doubts the forced kiss could have happened. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2017 #3
That may be true. liberal_patriot_md Nov 2017 #5
Then there would not have been a need to rehearse R B Garr Nov 2017 #19
Actually, the kiss would have happened before this photo. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #43
If they were still wearing helmets and bullet proof camo vests Nevernose Nov 2017 #59
Excellent point. oasis Nov 2017 #65
No, you wear your body armor when you take off from the combat zone Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #73
"stayed with him even in the bathroom"? I don't think even a President gets THAT coverage. 7962 Nov 2017 #4
actually the crowded room is the part that is problematic for her account dsc Nov 2017 #6
Especially when someone had to take the photo Historic NY Nov 2017 #72
If he was escorted on a Military facility HipChick Nov 2017 #16
Having worked in sketch and improv comedy, I can tell you that the atmosphere is a party atmosphere ehrnst Nov 2017 #17
Yes, they do -- that's standard procedure in the military rocktivity Nov 2017 #22
SOP in combat zones and military installations obamanut2012 Nov 2017 #44
I've done work on several military installations, in some highly restricted areas, 7962 Nov 2017 #47
They take you to the bathroom. If there are stalls you stay outside the burrowowl Nov 2017 #62
I've has such escorts... Big_K Nov 2017 #50
Ha ha. They weren't in Disneyland Bucky Nov 2017 #55
Its more for his protection and so he doesnt get harrassed too much Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #74
Franken's and Dem colleagues's call for ethics investigation Hortensis Nov 2017 #7
I think Franken has forced other real predators to have to submit to investigation .... marble falls Nov 2017 #11
You arae assuming that repugs actually give a damn. lark Nov 2017 #21
Plus witnesses would be testifying under oath. Demit Nov 2017 #12
Maybe, but facts would be presented. Marble Falls Hortensis Nov 2017 #18
Isn't the congressional ethics committee rather secretive?? I have not read about one riversedge Nov 2017 #75
Me either, but surely the whole point of this one would be noise? Hortensis Nov 2017 #78
I have a question Timmygoat Nov 2017 #8
They played it again this morning on GMA Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #9
Yep, but it is really Fox viewers who need to see it. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #79
This needs to be posted every time Tweeden goes on t.v. blueinredohio Nov 2017 #10
K&R... spanone Nov 2017 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Nov 2017 #14
The forced kiss was the element that still troubled. Franken's open request for an inquiry Squinch Nov 2017 #15
Yes, it was troubling, but quite common especially in rehearsing comedy and improv. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #20
I suspect it won't be going forward. So there's one good thing to come of this. Squinch Nov 2017 #23
I fear that there will be backlash as well. ehrnst Nov 2017 #34
Yes. As you say there always is. The Trump "presidency" itself is one big Squinch Nov 2017 #37
Just don't hire RW women. Dems are too decent to pull the shit she did. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #45
I think you are right Egnever Nov 2017 #60
Yeah, I'm moving on Dem2 Nov 2017 #24
Why didn't Franken say she was in on it? Phentex Nov 2017 #25
His statement was vague. He acknowledged the photo was disgusting. He didn't want to attack her mucifer Nov 2017 #27
The photo part of his statement seems to be the least vague part... Phentex Nov 2017 #31
Because even if she was in on he's taking responsibility for the inappropriateness Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #28
Yes he is because he is a decent human being... Phentex Nov 2017 #32
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Nov 2017 #54
Everything that Franken is accused of- Donald bragged about doing himself. Kissing & grabbing w/o Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #29
Yep! Google it: The allegations about Donald Trump and Miss Teen USA contestants ... www.politifact Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #38
Dotard tRUMP is accused of doing much much worse. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #30
Yep! yep! yep, that too! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #36
I've asked that Twitter person if they would seek out the media to give their story. moriah Nov 2017 #33
Are you talking about TheTabbasco? ramblin_dave Nov 2017 #46
Yeah. The escort. He seems like if he had exculpatory evidence he'd give it. moriah Nov 2017 #49
I'm very skeptical of the "escort", IIRC he said he might have been the pilot of the plane Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #63
The Kos article captured the original Twitter ID. moriah Nov 2017 #66
Ah, great. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #67
No problem at all. Nt moriah Nov 2017 #68
I'm in the "This was a hit job" category. Liberal In Texas Nov 2017 #39
i have a feeling she embellished too. She makes it sound like he asked for that kiss a dozen times trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #58
It's almost certainly a hit job... but that doesn't mean that it isn't true. FBaggins Nov 2017 #64
I am with you - Randi Rhodes worked with Al for yrs at Air America womanofthehills Nov 2017 #70
they should buy some Saturday Night Live dvds bedazzled Nov 2017 #40
Just remember that facts don't matter to the MAGATs. Initech Nov 2017 #41
Why does she have helmet & jacket on in airplane? Pepsidog Nov 2017 #42
What kind of source is this in the OP? Possible disinformation? ramblin_dave Nov 2017 #48
He has a twitter feed and from the look of it, he is the real deal. airmid Nov 2017 #52
That's odd ramblin_dave Nov 2017 #53
Because it screws the narative Egnever Nov 2017 #61
I hate how they use our own fringe wing of PC police against us LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #51
My thoughts are also along these lines. warmfeet Nov 2017 #57
Well said. They really know how to pit our own PC Squad against the rest of us. crosinski Nov 2017 #69
KKK&R bluestateboomer Nov 2017 #56
Franken knows her story is BS. Note his quick request for hearing. aeromanKC Nov 2017 #71
If the photo was staged and that's what she elected to go with... LisaM Nov 2017 #76
who sleeps with a kevlar helmet on??? rsong71 Nov 2017 #77
My point all along. MFM008 Nov 2017 #80
there's a ton of evidence waiting out there tnbadger Nov 2017 #81
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