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10. Were they willing to testify against Thomas on TV?

Reply to DURHAM D (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 19, 2017, 04:35 PM

Nov 2017

Anita Hill was very brave but it's easy to see why the second witness backed out.

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Biden tells NPR he "fought like hell" to support Anita Hill and oppose Clarence Thomas' [View all] ucrdem Nov 2017 OP

There were other witnesses ready to testify. And he let the GOP walk all over him. bettyellen Nov 2017 #1

He specifically talks about that tammywammy Nov 2017 #3

So is he blaming Anita Hill for the other witness's decision not to give evidence? spooky3 Nov 2017 #55

He's saying that the other witness/es declined to testify voluntarily. ucrdem Nov 2017 #58

I watched the entire confirmation hearings. He did a terrible job as CHAIR. And if the witnesses spooky3 Nov 2017 #61

I'm watching the special public televised hearing he called to address this matter now. ucrdem Nov 2017 #67

If you did not see the original hearing, I suggest you may want to suspend your questioning of those spooky3 Nov 2017 #70

Many were appalled, and still are...Anita, where are you? pbmus Nov 2017 #103

Other women claimed they were ready to testify. I believe them. bettyellen Nov 2017 #77

He's not blaming Anita Hill at all. tammywammy Nov 2017 #59

self-delete spooky3 Nov 2017 #63

You should listen to the interview. tammywammy Nov 2017 #66

No, I shouldn't. His treatment of her was bad during the hearing, and until he owns it spooky3 Nov 2017 #68

It seems she wasn't even called until after the link I gave you. ucrdem Nov 2017 #74

Yes, "failure to come clean" is a very good reason to not support a candidate... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #102

Thanks for posting this excerpt which is an important part of the story. ucrdem Nov 2017 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author creeksneakers2 Nov 2017 #72

52 to 48. ucrdem Nov 2017 #73

I just checked creeksneakers2 Nov 2017 #76

Yes, Biden voted nay per wiki. ucrdem Nov 2017 #79

Biden did not vote for Thomas. n/t tammywammy Nov 2017 #78

You are right creeksneakers2 Nov 2017 #80

So you're going to amend your error by deleting your post #72? oasis Nov 2017 #92

If you think that's a good idea I will creeksneakers2 Nov 2017 #96

Thanks for deleting. There's a certain percentage of DUers oasis Nov 2017 #104

Talking about running and wanting him to address the issue. He chose a fail. SandyZ Nov 2017 #4

AMEN !!! DURHAM D Nov 2017 #8

It's like he thinks we weren't watching at the time? WTF? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #2

Exactly. DURHAM D Nov 2017 #7

I watched the whole thing. yardwork Nov 2017 #34

Those of us who were watching at the time know exactly what happened EffieBlack Nov 2017 #89

And he was the CHAIR of the committee. He could have interjected when members behaved spooky3 Nov 2017 #56

It's amazing how long people live these days! I remember those hearings enough Nov 2017 #82

He should take a lesson from al franken JI7 Nov 2017 #5

He says there was a corroborating witness who backed out at the last minute ucrdem Nov 2017 #6

There was more than one witness. nt DURHAM D Nov 2017 #9

Were they willing to testify against Thomas on TV? ucrdem Nov 2017 #10

Yes DURHAM D Nov 2017 #11

and? ucrdem Nov 2017 #12

I don't have a direct link to my brain. DURHAM D Nov 2017 #14

Well, I recall listening to the hearings waiting for Wright to be called, but she never was... JHB Nov 2017 #16

Wright seems to be the second witness Biden referred to last night. ucrdem Nov 2017 #17

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #21

It's always possible, but that wasn't her position when interviewed shortly thereafter... JHB Nov 2017 #23

You don't need another link. It's transcribed in your NPR link. ucrdem Nov 2017 #24

For the most part I agree, since I think the error was not opposing Thomas earlier... JHB Nov 2017 #27

Just as a point, that's not the interview I'm talking about... JHB Nov 2017 #31

Yes. I'm disappointed in Biden on this. yardwork Nov 2017 #35

Or could it be that Joe is spinning a little? JHB Nov 2017 #13

The conventional DU wisdom is that Biden sliced Hill to shreds in an effort to support Thomas. ucrdem Nov 2017 #15

Can you provide examples of the instances you're thinking of when... JHB Nov 2017 #18

Probably, but if I post links the message risks getting removed. ucrdem Nov 2017 #19

Archived OP, 106 replies, most tacitly accepting the OP's version of events: ucrdem Nov 2017 #22

I don't see where anyone is claiming "Biden sliced Hill to shreds"... JHB Nov 2017 #25

The OP above suggests that Biden disputed Hill's story. He didn't. ucrdem Nov 2017 #26

can you provide a link to the op? Or do you mean yours? JHB Nov 2017 #28

OK, I found the thread you're referencing... JHB Nov 2017 #41

You asked for something that is difficult to provide. I complied. You're welcome. nt ucrdem Nov 2017 #48

As I provided recollections of what I remeber from the time, which are not available online. JHB Nov 2017 #50

The conventional wisdom is that he gave lukewarm support to Anita Hill, not that he shredded her. pnwmom Nov 2017 #30

Right, Biden supported Hill and opposed the Thomas nomination. Publicly, on live TV. ucrdem Nov 2017 #39

He gave her lukewarm support. Why didn't he go public with his knowledge pnwmom Nov 2017 #42

Because it wasn't a trial. It was a confirmation hearing. ucrdem Nov 2017 #51

Angela Wright was subpoenaed and she was waiting to be called. She sat there waiting for 3 days pnwmom Nov 2017 #52

Last night Biden said she changed her mind and named a corroroborating witness, Ron Klein. ucrdem Nov 2017 #53

Well SHE never said she changed her mind. And I believe HER, and the other two witnesses pnwmom Nov 2017 #62

Memory can be a little blurry. ananda Nov 2017 #20

"The Anita Hill case was not handled well at all." LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #37

No, the memory of DU women is correct. Biden's memory is self-serving. pnwmom Nov 2017 #29

Everyone at DU should read the article at your link. n/t spooky3 Nov 2017 #57

Yep Metatron Nov 2017 #87

I just think he didn't have the gumption to make some enemies. Scruffy1 Nov 2017 #91

And he felt torn because Clarence Thomas was a black man pnwmom Nov 2017 #93

Particularly then, when conservative radicalism could still be disregarded.. JHB Nov 2017 #95

Why did the Senators, including Joe Biden, allow Thomas to testify FIRST? pnwmom Nov 2017 #32

Because it was his hearing. ucrdem Nov 2017 #36

Oh, I see. Biden's lukewarm support was enough because Hill could never succeed anyway. pnwmom Nov 2017 #43

Did the other witness agree to testify without subpoenas? ucrdem Nov 2017 #46

They had agreed and were waiting to be called. pnwmom Nov 2017 #49

Biden tells a different story and names a witness, Ron Klein. ucrdem Nov 2017 #54

Were you an adult when this was going on? Do you remember the circus-like atmosphere? pnwmom Nov 2017 #60

+1 spooky3 Nov 2017 #65

Good grief, Mr. Biden, Polly Hennessey Nov 2017 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #38

Besides the witnesses, it was the utter disrespect he showed for her robbedvoter Nov 2017 #40

Can you elaborate? ucrdem Nov 2017 #44

His questioning of her was disrespectful. pnwmom Nov 2017 #47

I agree. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #45

Sorry Joe, you were so busy pontificating, that you threw Anita Hill to the republican wolves still_one Nov 2017 #69

Wright apparently backed out at the last minute. ucrdem Nov 2017 #71

There is no evidence for that except Biden's say-so, and Angela Wright disagrees. pnwmom Nov 2017 #75

She was there, she was ready, but she wasn't called. But: ucrdem Nov 2017 #81

She said in 2007 that she was "fully prepared to testify" and "committed to going through with the pnwmom Nov 2017 #83

It still doesn't negate the obnoxious grand standing he did, and failure to protect Anita Hill from still_one Nov 2017 #85

Look I need to restart my laptop before I can see any more CSPAN video but ucrdem Nov 2017 #86

He allowed Thomas to rebut her and slur her character and frame her testimony before she had pnwmom Nov 2017 #88

That was my impression, he gave the republicans free reign to slur her still_one Nov 2017 #90

It was a senate confirmation hearing. Yes, Arlen Specter and others ucrdem Nov 2017 #101

Sorry, Joe. You punted and fumbled. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #84

He caught his own punt? Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #97

The transcript of the 4th day, when Hill testified, runs to 1,032 single-spaced pages. ucrdem Nov 2017 #100

I watched every moment of those hearings that were televised The empressof all Nov 2017 #94

See my post above Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #98

Biden says she backed out, and he was running the hearings. ucrdem Nov 2017 #99

Joe... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #105