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turtlerescue1

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64. For what its worth

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 07:41 PM

Jul 2012

When I marched in S.F. it was with six guys who had just come home from Nam. It was things like the VFW and Legions that "at that time" did not accept the Nam vets, because "it was a police action, and not a declared war". One of my best friends was killed on point the day after Christmas 1967, it took several years of complaining before our Veterans Groups made sure he had a flag on Memorial and Veteran's Days. What was that one "saying"?
We are the unwilling doing the un necessary for the ungrateful?

Met one woman who I think to impress our group called "the peace treaty" said she had spit on a vet at Oakland, she was shunned like a plague.

I'm not so sure its hero worship that nudges someone to thank a soldier in uniform, it might be just a show of respect for time served and duty done.

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I know I'll get shit for this, but here goes: [View all] gopiscrap Jul 2012 OP

No shit from me. Every person in that theater matters equally. I come from a military family and LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #1

It beats how the Nam vets were treated for too long. turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #44

Funny but I was a Viet Nam Vet and I never got spit on. zeemike Jul 2012 #50

Ask PinBoyNiner some time about his experience coming home LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #56

Well ask PinBoy to ask me about some of my experiences with VT vets coming home. zeemike Jul 2012 #61

You said: "Funny but I was a Viet Nam Vet and I never got spit on. vietnam_war_vet Jul 2012 #58

Don't worry I have heard the stories too zeemike Jul 2012 #60

For what its worth turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #64

there is no shame in duty done...none at all. zeemike Jul 2012 #66

I had the exact same reaction. DURHAM D Jul 2012 #2

Profiles of all the vicitms will be grist for the mill. Loudly Jul 2012 #3

Hint: Teachers and social workers don't risk their lives. Indydem Jul 2012 #4

I have to ask right now if you've ever served. arbusto_baboso Jul 2012 #7

Who said they wouldn't? Indydem Jul 2012 #12

I don't happen to think you HAVE a point. arbusto_baboso Jul 2012 #16

I know a couple of social workers. If you think they don't risk their lives to help America TalkingDog Jul 2012 #28

+1000 GreenPartyVoter Jul 2012 #41

+ 1 LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #57

Thank you. The public has NO idea what we see on a daily basis. MichiganVote Jul 2012 #68

Excuse me! gopiscrap Jul 2012 #9

Here, here! arbusto_baboso Jul 2012 #13

Thank you gopiscrap Jul 2012 #19

Is that a part of your job description? Indydem Jul 2012 #18

You're still putting military personnel at a level above everyone else. arbusto_baboso Jul 2012 #22

If you don't place more value on them, Indydem Jul 2012 #25

And you have NO CLUE about how soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines think. arbusto_baboso Jul 2012 #26

Wow... that was a righteous smack-down fascisthunter Jul 2012 #52

The "sacrifice" has moved to the homeland brother or have you missed the last 12 years? MichiganVote Jul 2012 #71

My Dad, a Navy vet with a degree in counseling and married to my mother the teacher, GreenPartyVoter Jul 2012 #42

Yes. It is an assumed risk. You are taught that you will go into dangerous situations and how to TalkingDog Jul 2012 #31

This Social Worker RobinA Jul 2012 #38

Perhaps you should do some research about assults on teachers and social workers Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #55

Police officers, firefighters, emt's... it is weird no other professions are noted. Just soldiers riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #20

A-fucking-men to that. MichiganVote Jul 2012 #69

Hint: There's no draft -- today it's a voluntary military. Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #14

And thus the irony. Indydem Jul 2012 #23

We get the irony, but your initial reply really does sound condescending GreenPartyVoter Jul 2012 #43

No? Teachers have risked their lives and died for others, even in the classroom. 1monster Jul 2012 #33

Actually, some of the teachers in LA get wounded in the course of their duty. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #46

I don't know. In some schools . . . tclambert Jul 2012 #47

In ALL schools. Shooters know NO boundaries. MichiganVote Jul 2012 #70

teachers don't risk their lives? google that one icarusxat Jul 2012 #48

you don't know much about teachers and social workers. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #63

The fuck we don't. EVERY day I walk into schools anticipating the shooter. EVERY single day pal. MichiganVote Jul 2012 #67

No, it doesn't. aquart Jul 2012 #5

My guess is there is probably some type of formal incident reporting process... targetpractice Jul 2012 #6

It's simpler than that. Robb Jul 2012 #15

Yes it is a value statement gopiscrap Jul 2012 #21

Yeah. I saw that. earthside Jul 2012 #8

Just what I said! gopiscrap Jul 2012 #10

I agree. The same if was the mayor or a CEO or someone with a title. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #11

As I said upthread, does YOUR personal ID say what you do for a living? Robb Jul 2012 #17

All public school teachers and state social workers gopiscrap Jul 2012 #24

Well, yeah, sort of. It doesn't say so on my driver's license, but I do carry my school district ID 1monster Jul 2012 #35

It's the irony; presumably making it through a theater of war only to come home and be shot at a hedgehog Jul 2012 #27

Yep. Wait Wut Jul 2012 #32

It's a very old phenomenon - a bunch of Union soldiers made it through Andersonville hedgehog Jul 2012 #45

No, it shows where YOUR priorities are. Tejas Jul 2012 #29

The irony: ProSense Jul 2012 #30

Actually, they can and often do carry under local laws.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #37

Which ProSense Jul 2012 #39

I think it was of interest due to the randr Jul 2012 #34

Military people generally carry an ID that indicates the miltary affiliation. PavePusher Jul 2012 #36

They also made a point that some were children 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #40

Wow... no shit. Excellent point! (nt) fascisthunter Jul 2012 #49

I think they're going for the irony. tclambert Jul 2012 #51

Exactly what I was about to post. The irony is painful. Siwsan Jul 2012 #54

I ask similar questions. Jamaal510 Jul 2012 #53

Propaganda. Those same three service members begging on a street corner, or dying in an alley... DCKit Jul 2012 #59

Or children.... kurtzapril4 Jul 2012 #62

every single person is equally important~ Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #65