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lillypaddle

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85. I have said this over and over

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 03:49 PM

Nov 2017

We need her to STEP the fuck UP. It's more than whom we recruit. She has to want it, and is ready to lead. Where are you? if we have to cajole and beg, I don't want her.

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Who are our rising female stars that we can promote for president in 2020? [View all] CTyankee Nov 2017 OP

Well, we recently had one, but failed to support her well enough. MineralMan Nov 2017 #1

Well, HRC was sui generis IMO. Wife of a former president and had lots of people CTyankee Nov 2017 #3

THis pains me to say this as a woman crazycatlady Nov 2017 #2

I hate to admit it, but I agree with you. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #28

Black men got to vote before any women. Shirley Chisholm Alice11111 Nov 2017 #101

My Dad had the good fortune to meet Shirley Chisholm in his youth and became a lifelong fan Rhiannon12866 Nov 2017 #119

A good, personal story. Thank you. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #123

Agree. And I hope that we do not put a woman on a ticket for the sake question everything Nov 2017 #53

Sadly, I agree. The most qualified candidate in a long time, and we had to hear about her lunamagica Nov 2017 #62

Agree LibArts Nov 2017 #89

The most important thing is to win and stop the destruction Alice11111 Nov 2017 #105

That intense, irrational hatred for Hillary is why... Garrett78 Nov 2017 #117

Kamala Harris DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2017 #4

She is my choice also. femmocrat Nov 2017 #5

I agree. PragmaticLiberal Nov 2017 #7

She is my favorite at the moment. comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #33

What do we know about her, besides being a woman and question everything Nov 2017 #55

Gillibrand Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #6

My concern with Kristen is how well she'd do with hispanics,african americans etc. PragmaticLiberal Nov 2017 #8

A good VP pick could solve that. nt Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #9

while that is true, if we had a woman who is also a POC, we could also get the turnout. CTyankee Nov 2017 #13

But the risk is losing a lot if white working class voters. nt Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #14

the males, yes, and some women. But the idea of a woman president isn't as CTyankee Nov 2017 #36

Much as I would like to agree with you, spooky3 Nov 2017 #108

I lived in Northern VA but when I was there it seemed full of ex-military or CTyankee Nov 2017 #120

There are some, but I believe that studies have reported spooky3 Nov 2017 #121

I lived in Annandale. I wonder if there has been a big change there. CTyankee Nov 2017 #122

Part of Clinton's problem was she assumed she didn't HAVE to... brooklynite Nov 2017 #20

I heard that she was thinking of running, but we'll see. CTyankee Nov 2017 #11

Not after how she threw Bill Clinton under the bus...shows a lack of ability to think on her feet... brush Nov 2017 #18

So you want someone who pivots on a questions Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #19

I want someone who recognizes a journalist with an agenda, and also someone who knows... brush Nov 2017 #21

It was a NY Times interview. Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #22

Come on, the NYT are the ones who pushed that crap book "Clinton Cash". Not all the people there... brush Nov 2017 #24

And none are Bannon allies. NT Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #25

Maybe not, but there are many of a conservative bent. brush Nov 2017 #27

And some are asking a fair question Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #29

Fair enough. Be fair to him also though by asking for more from the accusers than photos that... brush Nov 2017 #31

True Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #37

I want someone smart, who can handle journalists, has connections to minority communities pnwmom Nov 2017 #23

She didn't trash Hillary Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #30

You're right. She didh't trash Hillary, she trashed Bill. brush Nov 2017 #32

What I find interesting is Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #39

Right, and the Lewinsky situation was consensual between two adults brush Nov 2017 #40

She didn't go there Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #41

Oh please, she did go there by falling into the ambush journalist's trap by trashing Bill Clinton brush Nov 2017 #43

It wasn't ambush journalism Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #44

IMO it was an ambush question. Bill Clinton and Lewinski had a non-criminal, consensual affair... brush Nov 2017 #45

Clinton was her boss Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #48

I repeat, the non-criminal, consensual Clinton/Lewinski affair of the 1990s has nothing to do with.. brush Nov 2017 #54

You're playing a semantics game. Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #56

OK, but Gillibrand will, IMO, regret it if she has 2020 ambitions. She' got to be smarter than to... brush Nov 2017 #63

It wasn't an ambush question Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #65

Well explain to us all why Clinton's action for which he was impeached, has to do with... brush Nov 2017 #73

I honestly do not know how this works out karynnj Nov 2017 #86

Gillibrand is now trying to walk back her hasty, not well thought out statement. brush Nov 2017 #109

"I'm going to the White House to get my presidential knee pads". oasis Nov 2017 #71

No idea Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #72

A 12 member jury comprised of both liberals AND oasis Nov 2017 #74

No it wouldn't Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #77

"Highly unethical"? Your measurement and opinion oasis Nov 2017 #83

So it is ok with you that a boss Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #84

"Power over her"? oasis Nov 2017 #87

Didn't say that. Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #88

Bright, ambitious, spunky, with black beret. oasis Nov 2017 #91

Never said that she was Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #93

As one union member to another, let's part oasis Nov 2017 #95

Whatever. Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #96

I'm thinking this poster is not from this country. brush Nov 2017 #110

Bill Clinton has issues and claims against him by multiple women... Baconator Nov 2017 #50

True Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #58

You don't know that. He had relationships with other women but none were proven to be... brush Nov 2017 #61

No one is trying to convict Clinton of anything. Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #66

I said he had affairs with women, including Lewinsky, ok. WTF, focus on trump and Moore. brush Nov 2017 #68

Focusing on Trump and Moore Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #69

Ridiculous. Who's not being honest? He had affairs. trump admitted crimes of groping and kissing... brush Nov 2017 #76

Not being honest Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #78

I'm beginning to suspect that there are people other than Democrats on this board. brush Nov 2017 #79

Being a Democrat Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #81

Again, are you not reading what I posted? Clinton committed adultery... brush Nov 2017 #90

He also had an affair with an intern. Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #92

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've said that several times now. What about your blind loyalty to... brush Nov 2017 #99

And an affair with an intern is unethical Trumpocalypse Nov 2017 #100

Ok, enjoy your stay here. brush Nov 2017 #103

Oh FFS... Baconator Nov 2017 #97

You mean the women who sat at the table with trump to support him? Those women? lunamagica Nov 2017 #80

Yes... Those women... Baconator Nov 2017 #98

Agree Alice11111 Nov 2017 #106

I think she'll get points for it frankly... Baconator Nov 2017 #47

Guess you haven't heard she's trying to walk it back now. brush Nov 2017 #104

Guess we'll see... Baconator Nov 2017 #111

MTE. She's a hypocrite lunamagica Nov 2017 #57

She is a Conservacrat, Zoonart Nov 2017 #60

I'm with you. Let her stay in the Senate. brush Nov 2017 #64

Distance herself after using them when it was convinient lunamagica Nov 2017 #82

I'm with you. She goes back to the end of the line. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #102

I like Amy Klobuchar a lot Egnever Nov 2017 #10

I could vote for her. comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #35

I like her too, but I don't think she cpuld get elected yet. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #107

Kamala Harris... but there are some complete assholes who think it's fun sport... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #12

Tammy Duckworth Quiet_Dem_Mom Nov 2017 #15

YAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!! Squinch Nov 2017 #17

So far the only candidate mentioned Runningdawg Nov 2017 #26

She is not a "natural born" citizen of the U.S. having been born in Bangkok. CTyankee Nov 2017 #75

Kamala Harris is looking a good bet at this stage. Gillibrands public knifing of Franken and Clinton OnDoutside Nov 2017 #16

Gillibrand's best bet is to work toward being a permanent fixture oasis Nov 2017 #34

who ever it is has to have YEARS of accomplishments and samnsara Nov 2017 #38

do you have someone in mind? CTyankee Nov 2017 #42

Relative youth is what we need... Baconator Nov 2017 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Baconator Nov 2017 #46

A lot of us in California are ready vote for Kamala Harris for President. TeamPooka Nov 2017 #51

good to hear. But we have to have a candidate who can win back the other CTyankee Nov 2017 #67

I think she will drive Obama plus numbers to the polls in all states and we win in a landslide. TeamPooka Nov 2017 #70

No one can get more votes than Amy Klobuchar Cicada Nov 2017 #52

I can't wait to read/hear all the contradictions.... vi5 Nov 2017 #59

I have said this over and over lillypaddle Nov 2017 #85

She would have to want to be a trailblazer and have people who believe in her. CTyankee Nov 2017 #94

She had a lot of pros... Baconator Nov 2017 #112

all in the past. time to reconsider when we look at the lineup for 2020... CTyankee Nov 2017 #113

Agree 100% nt lillypaddle Nov 2017 #115

You say that... Baconator Nov 2017 #116

Luckily, I think it would be near impossible lillypaddle Nov 2017 #114

To me, it is something a woman candidate would consider, but a man never would. CTyankee Nov 2017 #118