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apnu

(8,790 posts)
35. Its both a political hit job and harassment.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 01:42 PM
Nov 2017

I'm sure my comment is going to fall flat with most because I am not taking part in the binary nature of the Internet's desire to distill everything down to black and white choices.

1) it is harassment.
No matter how we look at it, Franken was party to toxic sexuality towards women. It doesn't matter if Tweeden is in on a hit job or being used as a prop for a hit job or none of that and she's sincere or that she's a liar and all this is a set up. None of that matters.

Al Franken was party to juvenile toilet humor objectifying women's bodies. That he's a comedian doesn't matter. That the culture approves of it doesn't matter. That the target audience (soldiers) supposedly want that kind of entertainment doesn't matter.

Al Franken is a grown man with decades of experience and judgement and he let his judgment fail him. He took part in objectifying women, and today he knows it and he's apologized for it and I hope he'll work to stop it in the future.

2) it is a hit job.
The fact that Roger Stone tweeted about this a full day in advance is all the evidence I need to know this is a hit job. I don't know what Tweeden's involvement in it, and I don't care. She didn't come out with this on her own, this was planned and premeditated to injure Al Franken. Maybe Tweeden is willing in this, maybe she's been manipulated, the end result is some people in the Republican party ARE trying to co-opt #MeToo for their political gain. It fits a story they've long told that all Hollywood liberals are amoral jerks so they're running with it.

This is not to sway independents or rile liberals, though both of those things are fringe benefits. This is about feeding red meat to the base who was flagging thanks to that pedophile asshole Roy Moore.

There's a long list of creepy Republican sexual adventures and anything that lets them say "everybody does it" takes the pressure off them.

So they're trying to turn Al Franken into another Bill Clinton, a ghoul to be trotted out every time they need to change the subject.

Because they don't want to talk about Donald Trump's pussy grabbing. They don't want to talk about Larry Craig's bathroom games, they don't want to talk about David Vitter's Diapers and they don't want to talk about Mark Foley's pages. And they absolutely don't want to talk about Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill.

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I'm glad they sent this. It would be interesting to see the names though. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #1
Here's the names octoberlib Nov 2017 #4
Jane Curtin signed it. That says a lot to me. yardwork Nov 2017 #5
Jane Curtain kicks ass Orrex Nov 2017 #22
Didn't she have a lot of trouble with how male centric SNL was in her day? dflprincess Nov 2017 #40
Yes, and she wasn't into the drugs and partying. yardwork Nov 2017 #41
Thanks for that insight NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #50
Thanks! Good to see Jane Curtin and Laraine Newman on there. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #8
Quite the distinguished list. Hugin Nov 2017 #9
EXCELLENT! brush Nov 2017 #18
Take that you 'not a bible between you' liar. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #2
Good to see. lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #3
K&R... spanone Nov 2017 #6
Compared to several hours and lots more women coming out about Charlie Rose mucifer Nov 2017 #7
I did an OP about it. It was like something out of the Onion octoberlib Nov 2017 #10
Yeah, thank you ladies....... a kennedy Nov 2017 #11
So why Timmygoat Nov 2017 #12
Some did not sign, a bit troubling Cicada Nov 2017 #13
Tina Fey and Al Franken did not work together. Different time periods. octoberlib Nov 2017 #14
Thank you for that explanation Cicada Nov 2017 #15
Tina Fey didn't start work at SNL until 1997 (behind the scenes). Franken was at SNL mnhtnbb Nov 2017 #16
K&R mcar Nov 2017 #17
If his accusers are to be believed, Farmer-Rick Nov 2017 #19
Good point n/t spooky3 Nov 2017 #23
If his accusers are to be believed Nevernose Nov 2017 #33
he apoligized for how the women felt questionseverything Nov 2017 #44
Good point Farmer-Rick Nov 2017 #49
Let's see if CNN makes this headline news, like they did for the unverified accusers Dopers_Greed Nov 2017 #20
Great! I know he's not a lech or a harasser, after watching him for years. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #21
Great example (George Carlin) robbob Nov 2017 #29
Your comment also brought to mind Michael Richards robbob Nov 2017 #36
Most uncomfortable "routine" I've ever witnessed! wolfie001 Nov 2017 #47
Great letter from the SNL women performers Gothmog Nov 2017 #24
Randi Rhodes worked with Al on Air America for yrs & she says Al was always a gentleman womanofthehills Nov 2017 #25
Thank you ladies at SNL who worked with Al Franken. democratisphere Nov 2017 #26
Trump will no doubt ask wryter2000 Nov 2017 #27
This will piss off a few people here BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #28
I don't care. I still think it's a political hit job. octoberlib Nov 2017 #32
Damn right it's a hit job. eissa Nov 2017 #34
Its both a political hit job and harassment. apnu Nov 2017 #35
Tweeden's RW crap! wolfie001 Nov 2017 #48
Standing with them and Al!! zentrum Nov 2017 #30
I beginning to think he didn't even need to apologize for that stupid photo. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #31
I would like to hear from some of the troops LisaM Nov 2017 #42
I think he was right for apologizing over the content of the joke... renegade000 Nov 2017 #43
Character witnesses moondust Nov 2017 #37
The right is out to get every Democrat who may run in 2020. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #38
Trumps support of a child molester makes me nostalgic for the days when he just supported Nazis. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #39
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2017 #45
It's interesting seeing which DUers like to throw Democrats under the bus IronLionZion Nov 2017 #46
What strikes me as a positive is the power distribution of the women who signed it... CincyDem Nov 2017 #51
This is a great letter Gothmog Nov 2017 #52
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