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51. California, Oregon Washington and Hawaii should form a new country.

Tue Nov 21, 2017, 07:12 PM

Nov 2017

Californians are tired of insufficient representation in the federal government. We are tired of using our revenues to keep “taker” states like Mississippi afloat. We are tired of hearing crap like, “Hillary Clinton’s 3 million popular votes over Trump are just from California; subtract that pinko state, and Trump has a popular vote victory,” and so on.

If things get worse (and I’m not feeling optimistic), California and the West Coast states should seriously consider getting the hell out of what’s shaping up to be a genuinely fascist federal government, overseen by oligarchs, and run as a Russian satellite state. Californians want no part of that. We’re goddamned sick about what’s happened to this country already.

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Trump: Not a dime for California disaster aid. [View all] kstewart33 Nov 2017 OP

this is truly horrible, sympathies to CA! nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #1

Except Trump doesn't get to decide things like that. lunatica Nov 2017 #85

Then the state stops paying federal taxes and uses the funds for disaster relief kimbutgar Nov 2017 #2

I wouldnt put something like this past Jerry Brown kysrsoze Nov 2017 #8

Each individual taxpayer sends in Federal tax returns. How can our governor manage that? Hekate Nov 2017 #56

Hey if they want to exit the union I'll move there..n/t diverdownjt Nov 2017 #81

Jerry Brown is smart and a fighter HelenWheels Nov 2017 #80

I agree. My fantasy is that fierywoman Nov 2017 #15

Sure Soxfan58 Nov 2017 #19

You can always move. I did many years ago. fierywoman Nov 2017 #20

Not everyone can afford California mythology Nov 2017 #23

True. I live pretty close to the bone. fierywoman Nov 2017 #24

It depends where you live in California. The coasts, as a rule, are the most expensive .... The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 2017 #101

Sure I'll move there workinclasszero Nov 2017 #72

I was poor in CA during two different periods of my life fierywoman Nov 2017 #74

Yes, we would. Take it from me, CALIFORNIA BORN & BRED, IOW, NATIVE ANGELENA The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 2017 #102

That assumes a level of financial and personal freedom that many of us just do not have Stryst Nov 2017 #76

Thats what they want - so the country loses our delegate votes. No way. kysrsoze Nov 2017 #36

I hope we return to Mexico, great people, delicious food, I even like most of the Mexican music I mulsh Nov 2017 #53

I lived there (D.F.) for 4 years - yes to great people, delicious food, fierywoman Nov 2017 #55

Sounds good... but that's what Putin wants. defacto7 Nov 2017 #57

That's exactly what Russia wants Downtown Hound Nov 2017 #78

CA supports a lot of taker states azureblue Nov 2017 #93

I am outnumbered in a red state and depend on the federal government for health care misanthrope Nov 2017 #100

A better thing to have done.... Grins Nov 2017 #94

Which would open the door for red states misanthrope Nov 2017 #98

So what now? We are going to say we are sorry and vote for repubs wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #3

You can include CA Republican legislators on the endangered species list. nt oasis Nov 2017 #4

It is quite possible only a small handful of CA Republicans are in Congress in 2019. LonePirate Nov 2017 #9

Nunes and Issa are likely headed for the chopping block.nt oasis Nov 2017 #22

As they should. HurricaneWarning Nov 2017 #44

I thought Nunes was still popular in his district. salin Nov 2017 #77

By mid-2018, the mounting reports of Nunes' Trump/Russia connection oasis Nov 2017 #79

Crossing my fingers that this comes to be. salin Nov 2017 #87

Not anytime soon, parts of California are still very republican ansible Nov 2017 #16

We'll see if they stay Repub knowing their representative fails to do oasis Nov 2017 #21

The Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief is a bigger POS than I thought... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #5

I compare this to Chris Christie's response to Sandy Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #6

How many votes did Drumpf lose California by? VMA131Marine Nov 2017 #7

It's time to eradicate Republican pols in California. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #10

Has he even mentioned the fires?? Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #11

If he hates CA, then why doesn't he close his golf course? muntrv Nov 2017 #12

I have a better idea,,,, mdbl Nov 2017 #40

My Guess Would Be RobinA Nov 2017 #61

He is horrible. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2017 #13

I am not surprised. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #14

Asshole Trump doesn't realize republicans live in these blue states too. pwb Nov 2017 #17

"I hope we hurt them big time when we are back in power." FiveGoodMen Nov 2017 #25

We know that California sends more in taxes to Washington than they receive back from Washington. politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2017 #18

I would recommend reallocating that federal gasoline tax for wildfire relief. roamer65 Nov 2017 #59

Cal Dems must use this to win future elections in those districts SpankMe Nov 2017 #26

Trump and the GOP hate us Americans, and they want us gone or dead. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #27

Yeah well that figures. I'd be surprised though ucrdem Nov 2017 #28

Not surprised sakabatou Nov 2017 #29

and just plainly a big asshole. mdbl Nov 2017 #41

and a yuiyoshida Nov 2017 #64

There was no federal disaster aid for wildfires in Montana earlier this year. Efilroft Sul Nov 2017 #30

Perhaps There's a Legal Loophole and CA Can Suspend/Delay Tax Payments to the Federal Govt. dlk Nov 2017 #31

This literally makes me sick. BeeBee Nov 2017 #32

Me too stopwastingmymoney Nov 2017 #70

How many TrumpBOTS that voted for him lost a home?? Bengus81 Nov 2017 #33

Probably not many since Hillary won this area by about 70% to Trump's 30%. n/t BeeBee Nov 2017 #34

Find the vote results in the eastern parts of the state rpannier Nov 2017 #92

All of the peckerwood Rethuglican Bootlickers of the would be orange fuhrer need to be booted out benfranklin1776 Nov 2017 #35

Well, that sure won't win him any votes from out here! calimary Nov 2017 #37

Why is there one single Retrumplican Congressional member from CA? maxrandb Nov 2017 #38

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Nov 2017 #69

California voted for xxqqqzme Nov 2017 #90

He and the entire GOP are fucking monsters. liberalmuse Nov 2017 #39

Headline is misleading ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #42

Wow how did we all miss that? pwb Nov 2017 #43

Dunno, maybe you weren't paying attention? ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #46

Yea, good for all of us not paying attention you caught it. pwb Nov 2017 #49

Of course we read between the lines ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #50

Well...Trump needs the CASH so the rich don't have to pay that "ticket tax" Bengus81 Nov 2017 #45

This is the Republicans fault, not trump- elected Rs know he's a dumbass & ignore him. Sunlei Nov 2017 #47

I think we're hearing excuse #5 this time FakeNoose Nov 2017 #52

Great interpretative chart which is spot on. benfranklin1776 Nov 2017 #60

Welcome to Trumpamerikkka. SergeStorms Nov 2017 #48

California, Oregon Washington and Hawaii should form a new country. VOX Nov 2017 #51

No. We need to fix the GOP gerrymandering. They can't just take away our country. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #68

Evil is as evil does world wide wally Nov 2017 #54

Trump is really an asshole Gothmog Nov 2017 #58

I hope the same courtesy is accorded Republicans seeking health care DFW Nov 2017 #62

Californians can stand and raise their middle yuiyoshida Nov 2017 #63

Presidential abuse of power. ancianita Nov 2017 #65

Posting article to my FB page. KPN Nov 2017 #66

California house members from both parties need to pay back Trump and his minions. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #67

CA, NY, other blue states send a LOT more to the feds than we get - that should end adigal Nov 2017 #71

AND these blue states are about to get severly hit by the Trump #taxScambill riversedge Nov 2017 #73

Yup.....there seem to he fewer and fewer reasons to stay in this union adigal Nov 2017 #86

The Transfer Payment Equalization Act of 2019. roamer65 Nov 2017 #88

When we get the House, Senate and POTUS back, we need a LOT of laws adigal Nov 2017 #91

Compassionate conservatism. Absolutely heartless and cold. ffr Nov 2017 #75

Some of those affected rural counties voted for Trump IronLionZion Nov 2017 #82

trump uses white house to punish political enemies.....and those who voted for him spanone Nov 2017 #83

K&R, (but I think the title of your thread is slightly misleading) red dog 1 Nov 2017 #84

How can we get the roll call vote on this? Love to put in headlines if our reps voted "No" Liberty Belle Nov 2017 #89

Let's start taking names so we know what a$$es to kick... usaf-vet Nov 2017 #95

It would be nice to imagine Trump and his enablers spending eternity staring at a wall of flames... Hekate Nov 2017 #96

Thanks for nothing Blue Streak Science Nov 2017 #97

So sorry for what you're going through Sugarcoated Nov 2017 #99

There are no words. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #103

This is an impeachable abuse of executive power. CA will see him in court. ancianita Nov 2017 #104