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moriah

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55. And it's a risk healthcare workers sadly have to take, for themselves and ...

Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:05 AM

Nov 2017

... their patients.

Almost all state nursing boards have regulations about immunizations. A nurse practitioner I know who had measles as a child still didn't test out with high enough of an antibody titer and had to have a total of three doses of measles vaccine before her titers showed her officially immune.

And given that we've had measles outbreaks here because of churches that have a lot of homeschool anti-vaccine people having people come back from mission trips with it and spread it among the non-immune.... she's glad they didn't just go by her childhood history as she could have ended up with it as a 55 year old woman.

For influenza, the only obstacle that really can't be overcome is a prior history of Gullian-Barre Syndrome. There are recombinant vaccines that are vegan, and the CDC has a flowchart about how to handle varying degrees of egg allergies if the only shots available *are* egg-based...

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/egg-allergies.htm

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Essentia Health fires 69 employees over refusal to get flu shots [View all] Thor_MN Nov 2017 OP

This happens every year mcar Nov 2017 #1

We lost a PRN in our dept for failure to get his flu shot. ileus Nov 2017 #2

Just a conpiracy by Big Flu... brooklynite Nov 2017 #52

Good Calculating Nov 2017 #3

That is exactly the reason still_one Nov 2017 #4

Not Getting A Flu Shot RobinA Nov 2017 #91

Or stupid if you work in a hospital Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #94

I have a needle phobia. Codeine Nov 2017 #5

Barely felt mine Retrograde Nov 2017 #11

I look away too. Every time. I have no idea as to the length of the needle. gristy Nov 2017 #12

I took one a couple of months ago and didn't even know the pharmacist had done it as it was so... brush Nov 2017 #15

Some years, they have the nasal spray vaccine. Ilsa Nov 2017 #16

The 2017-2018 nasal vaccine isn't recommended per CDC. moriah Nov 2017 #49

If you work acute care, that isn't an option Horse with no Name Nov 2017 #114

Science wins again! +1000! n/t USALiberal Nov 2017 #6

Reminds me...need to get mine. GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #7

Good! hatrack Nov 2017 #8

I got my first flu shot a couple of months ago. A lot of you talked me int it. Doreen Nov 2017 #9

Sorry, no sympathy. TomSlick Nov 2017 #10

sorry but bluestarone Nov 2017 #13

Get real. The flu can kill. Hospital workers should not subject patients to possibly getting the... brush Nov 2017 #17

should they forceyou bluestarone Nov 2017 #22

Absolutely. Why would anyone who works in a hospital want to take a chance of passing on the flu... brush Nov 2017 #23

because although slight bluestarone Nov 2017 #25

Understood, but those people, unfortunately because of the risk of contagion should not work in... brush Nov 2017 #29

except they wouldn't know until bluestarone Nov 2017 #32

baloney.....nurses, HCA, CNA, MA etc already had the shots during their training and externiships BoneyardDem Nov 2017 #108

they have a medical and religious exception process CreekDog Nov 2017 #33

you don't get it bluestarone Nov 2017 #36

everyone who workds in medical situations KT2000 Nov 2017 #41

Not to mention that they cannot enroll in school unless they have it Horse with no Name Nov 2017 #116

YOU HAVE BROUGHT NO KNOWLEDGE, STUDY, EXPERTISE OR RESEARCH TO THIS TOPIC CreekDog Nov 2017 #42

this bluestarone Nov 2017 #45

105 died from the flu shot? CreekDog Nov 2017 #47

hey i'm just saying bluestarone Nov 2017 #51

Nothing is perfect, tell us which is closer? *YOU* OR SCIENCE CreekDog Nov 2017 #54

tell you the truth i'm not bluestarone Nov 2017 #58

so you read one article about one study and think that makes you more informed CreekDog Nov 2017 #60

i'm 70 and get my shot every year bluestarone Nov 2017 #61

Depends On Kind of Job, No? ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #85

Hard as it may sound, protecting the hundreds of people in a hospital is more important than one... brush Nov 2017 #68

Who really knows what the long-term impact of all these vaccines has on our immune systems. Doodley Nov 2017 #82

Actually, SERVA (shoulder injury from vaccines is increasing) womanofthehills Nov 2017 #69

Even medical consensus can get it wrong. We may not know the true effect of over-medication Doodley Nov 2017 #83

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #57

LOL - you've been scammed, that's a quack website. procon Nov 2017 #62

But his work has been cited on Mercola's website! Revanchist Nov 2017 #118

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #92

Then don't work at a hospital if you're that worried about it. Easy n/t kcr Nov 2017 #53

And it's a risk healthcare workers sadly have to take, for themselves and ... moriah Nov 2017 #55

You are the one that does not get it. If you have a reaction, them you stop getting flu shots Thor_MN Nov 2017 #95

Take a Benadryl before the shot Nevernose Nov 2017 #37

Problem is not solved - womanofthehills Nov 2017 #63

Thats med-mal payouts and means very little Nevernose Nov 2017 #67

Actually, from what I've read the childhood vaccines are much safer than the flu shots womanofthehills Nov 2017 #70

Im still willing to argue Nevernose Nov 2017 #73

I know 2 people who were injured by vaccines so it made me do some research womanofthehills Nov 2017 #77

Yes, you work in an industry with sick folks with compromised immune systems...get the shot or get Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #101

Hell, yes! If they are health care workers liberalhistorian Nov 2017 #106

you aren't forced Horse with no Name Nov 2017 #115

or in many hospitals, you can wear a mask womanofthehills Nov 2017 #121

that option is going away due to the high rate of noncompliance Horse with no Name Nov 2017 #122

No... Just No Leith Nov 2017 #19

should they force you? bluestarone Nov 2017 #21

That's an interesting idea you have Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #24

Force? Leith Nov 2017 #27

They weren't forced. Mariana Nov 2017 #31

there are many jobs that don't require them to get a shot Skittles Nov 2017 #44

Honestly...this is the most inane post on this thread BoneyardDem Nov 2017 #107

They're not holding anyone down and injecting them by force. X_Digger Nov 2017 #112

There's one good reason not to have a flu shot. Staph Nov 2017 #14

I haven't gone through chemo MurrayDelph Nov 2017 #18

And it's patients like you that shouldn't be exposed TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #64

Aversion to flu shots and anti-vaxxers... lame54 Nov 2017 #20

Wrong. The flu shot is a vaccine. GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #35

Not the same thing... lame54 Nov 2017 #48

Not getting the flu shot doesn't make one an anti-vaxxer, that's true CreekDog Nov 2017 #59

Agreed - and "The flu vaccine may have a strange problem that US scientists can't fix" womanofthehills Nov 2017 #65

My measles vaccine didn't stop me from getting measles. Mariana Nov 2017 #71

Perhaps, but it could have kept you from dying from it. Laffy Kat Nov 2017 #78

Don't get me wrong, I'm entirely pro-vaccine. Mariana Nov 2017 #98

Influenza is not one disease - it is a grouping of diseases. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #97

I didn't get the flu shot Beakybird Nov 2017 #26

There should be exceptions to those who have medically documented adverse reactions to the flu shot. MarvinGardens Nov 2017 #28

The hospital I worked at allowed emplyess to wear a mask while at work, if the employee Tess49 Nov 2017 #50

Univ of New Mexico Hospital has exceptions womanofthehills Nov 2017 #66

Good riddance. Aristus Nov 2017 #30

My wife and her mother are highly allergic to the vaccine. As a doctor you should fucking know madinmaryland Nov 2017 #38

Then they don't qualify to work there Sentath Nov 2017 #56

Lots of authoritarian types here - I find it curious. cwydro Nov 2017 #84

If its a choice between a hard rule or lots of people unnecessarily dying.. Kentonio Nov 2017 #86

I doubt anyone much cares what anyone else orders others to do on a message board. cwydro Nov 2017 #89

There's a difference between giving orders and expressing a strong opinion. Kentonio Nov 2017 #99

There some vaccines that are for that express purpose...but with all due respect. Your wife and Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #102

I do know better. I also know that vaccine allergy is relatively rare, and that exceptions based on Aristus Nov 2017 #125

Why - many hospitals will let employees wear masks womanofthehills Nov 2017 #123

That's the hospital's choice. Aristus Nov 2017 #128

Maybe all 69 were allergic to eggs. egduj Nov 2017 #34

My wife and her mother are highly allergic to the vaccine. That's why they don't take it. madinmaryland Nov 2017 #39

Are They Health Care Workers? Leith Nov 2017 #40

There's been an egg-free recombinant vaccine out for 3 years... moriah Nov 2017 #46

Flublok is interesting - no eggs, formaldehyde, thimerosal, latex, antiobiotics, no .. womanofthehills Nov 2017 #75

i understand that people think ignorant things CreekDog Nov 2017 #43

I don't get the flu shot. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #72

Why would you think the flu you got 50-70 years ago confers immunity now when flu viruses mutate? CreekDog Nov 2017 #74

Lifelong protection against severe influenza - Childhood flu and you womanofthehills Nov 2017 #80

Same here HockeyMom Nov 2017 #88

I'm pretty sure I got the 1957 flu also known as the Asian flu. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #103

At the HMO I work for.. Laffy Kat Nov 2017 #76

I have a niece in Miami with two beautiful little girls, ages five and two. She is a rabid anti-vax. secondwind Nov 2017 #79

I have a niece in Miami with two beautiful little girls, ages five and two. She is a rabid anti-vax. secondwind Nov 2017 #81

A health care worker must get a flu shot for the safety of their patients. Vinca Nov 2017 #87

A Billing Clerk is now a Health Care Worker? HockeyMom Nov 2017 #104

Then I guess they should opt to get the vaccination. Vinca Nov 2017 #105

Do Hospital VISTORS use cafeterias? HockeyMom Nov 2017 #109

Okay, okay, okay. Chill. If you want to die of the flu it's your choice. Vinca Nov 2017 #110

If I do not have the flu HockeyMom Nov 2017 #111

You can be asymptomatic, have the virus and then become ill. Vinca Nov 2017 #117

Yep HockeyMom Nov 2017 #120

And I'll leave you with a hope you stay well. Vinca Nov 2017 #124

Your statement shows how much you know about Shingles HockeyMom Nov 2017 #129

It seems we're both correct. Vinca Nov 2017 #130

If you dont want to get the shot dont take a job in health care Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #90

totally agree steve2470 Nov 2017 #119

If u work in healthcare u need to protect the vulnerable dembotoz Nov 2017 #93

Bye! Iggo Nov 2017 #96

I didn't get the flu shot and probably won't in the near future. Tatiana Nov 2017 #100

They have in the past allowed the employees to wear masks the entire flu season Horse with no Name Nov 2017 #113

Good ebbie15644 Nov 2017 #126

Good. Lunabell Nov 2017 #127