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Demsrule86

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3. Some people are assholes...men and women. I can be am asshole at times...we all can.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 09:14 AM
Nov 2017

I don't think porn has much to do with why men 'whip it out'. Some powerful men take advantage of their power to try to force sex on women and now with some women having attained power also men(way less of course)...at hubs job two jobs ago...a woman supervisor was very aggressively coming on to some of her workers. She was eventually let go...or allowed to resign...can't remember because this company really does take sexual harassment very seriously and they will can your sorry ass. They also don't permit racism or homophobic behavior.

That being said you have to distinguish between predators and assholes trying to get laid...they are different. Charlie Rose is a predator, and so is Weinstein...they used their power to elicit sexual favors from unwilling women. Roy Moore should not be lumped in with these types as he is a pedophile and a would be rapist. I don't think he stopped either. I think the entire Franken thing is a put up job...more so after Keith showed the pictures of the USO tour and I think her 'reward' is a book deal from Sinclair that Righty cess pool media conglomerate.

You also have to consider that sexual harassment is not rape...those of us who have come close to being raped or have been raped understand the difference only too well...yeah it is still about power...but it is different. So we should not lump all of this into one thing. Also, it is my opinion that most people have looked at porn at one time or the other. And it doesn't affect most but there are some who not content with the internet want the real thing and will try to enact their fantasies.

A man who whips out his penis like the comedian who's name escapes me might be abusing his power (which the comedian said he was) or trying to get laid (why guys think this works is beyond me), but it is not assualt in and of itself. We cannot deem all sexual behavior we don't like as 'assault' because it isn't and we will become like the little boy who cried wolf...what Moore did and what a guy who takes an officemate out after work and then tries to kiss her at the end of the evening are two very different things...Moore assaulted and attempted to rape a 14 year old and a 16 year old as well as other women. We cannot excuse such behavior by lumping it all together in one ugly package.

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I have mixed feelings about porn [View all] Chasstev365 Nov 2017 OP
Good morning DU. Lol bearsfootball516 Nov 2017 #1
My Problem With Porn RobinA Nov 2017 #2
I agree it degrades women, but is it a better substitute than degrading Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #16
Are you saying that the women in porn arent real? MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #27
No, not at all. Sex workers are real women of course. But it is business? Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #31
There's no porn that could be equally degrading (or not) of men? Doodley Nov 2017 #51
You can put that broad brush away. DiverDave Nov 2017 #84
Some people are assholes...men and women. I can be am asshole at times...we all can. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #3
The "Excuse me while I whip this out..." meme is 40+ years old (reality? much older than THAT!) Moostache Nov 2017 #53
No different than alcohol with how some will use it Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #4
It is definitely "different" than alcohol whathehell Nov 2017 #6
No, that's not the areas that I look at Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #10
The problem is, there isn't just just "one genre"that degrades women whathehell Nov 2017 #23
Why do you say it degrades women? What about men as well? Doodley Nov 2017 #73
I wouldn't say it does not whathehell Nov 2017 #80
Alcoholics have a problem with alcohol. Period. Your first paragraph shows you have no rzemanfl Nov 2017 #7
You've got me wrong Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #11
If porn addicts go into withdrawal without porn and need to have medical supervision so they don't rzemanfl Nov 2017 #14
Porn addiction can lead to a whole host of things Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #15
Saying a is "just like" b is always a slippery slope. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #18
I think he was referring to the addictive nature of porn. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #19
Thank you. I hope he looks at the link I sent. "I fucking know" is not acceptance. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #21
I think a lot of us are on edge right now with the sexual harassment issue everywhere. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #22
It's the Russians and other trolls on this board pushing all those buttons that bothers me. rzemanfl Nov 2017 #35
I know, the crime of the century right before our eyes. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #36
Remember how the Russians treated the women in the countries the drove the Wehrmacht out of. rzemanfl Nov 2017 #40
Wow, very interesting story. I have no doubt Putin is a misogynist. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #42
I never drank irresponsibly HopeAgain Nov 2017 #33
Congratulations on 9 years. Nothing is "just like" something else. I am not suggesting rzemanfl Nov 2017 #37
Porn doesn't make men whip it out. LuckyCharms Nov 2017 #5
Yep, agree! There's more to it IMO than just porn. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #26
people who heaven05 Nov 2017 #8
Agree 100% DiverDave Nov 2017 #85
Teens, especially janterry Nov 2017 #9
Well movies cause violence MyNameGoesHere Nov 2017 #12
The yearly porn wars here are great fun Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #13
Really? By the time I was in 3rd grade I'd heard worse on School bus than you'd hear in any movie! Va Lefty Nov 2017 #30
Yup. It was in a Thor: Ragnarok discussion Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #38
Yes they tell me video and computer games "cause" murders too. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #58
Constant selling of sex coupled with violence all around...what could go wrong? Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #17
Don't Watch It ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #20
Not touching this topic with a.....never mind! (tm Emily Latella). WinkyDink Nov 2017 #24
You can also talk about objectification of woman that porn encourages el_bryanto Nov 2017 #25
Is it assumed only men watch porn? Throck Nov 2017 #28
It is a general assumption Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #29
Some couples film themselves then post it. Throck Nov 2017 #32
Neither Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #39
And only heterosexual men at at that n/t FreeState Nov 2017 #62
I'm skeptical that consuming certain media for entertainment makes people do things. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #34
Are you skeptical about advertising? Doodley Nov 2017 #74
Yes. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #78
If only we could go back to the days before porn GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #41
Oh Riiiiight... whathehell Nov 2017 #44
Surely I did not need the sarcasm thingy GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #65
I agree, but those same men tend to also treat men like shit too. They are the bullies, Doodley Nov 2017 #75
It seems you did.. whathehell Nov 2017 #83
A respectful opposing viewopint... brooklynite Nov 2017 #43
So mistreating human beings whathehell Nov 2017 #46
How many women get mistreated in your average Halloween horror movie? brooklynite Nov 2017 #48
A lot. whathehell Nov 2017 #70
Watching porn is not mistreating human beings. Doodley Nov 2017 #52
No, it's watching human beings being mistreated.. whathehell Nov 2017 #69
So porn stars are mistreated and those who post themselves as porn online are mistreated? Doodley Nov 2017 #72
I would say it depends on the porn, on each individual instance. thucythucy Nov 2017 #77
If porn induced men to "whip it out" SHRED Nov 2017 #45
I don't see where anyone here is making that claim.. whathehell Nov 2017 #47
It is literally in the OP Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #49
Okay. whathehell Nov 2017 #71
It's not just porn. GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #50
Those ads clearly served their purpose, then Orrex Nov 2017 #54
Absolutely, and GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #63
Here's a link for you! Orrex Nov 2017 #66
Sad commentary, GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #68
I've watched plenty of porn in my younger days and I never thought it was ok to whip it out unasked. phleshdef Nov 2017 #55
Men have perved (and worse) women since the start of time Cosmocat Nov 2017 #56
I think there is tremendous opportunity here... Locrian Nov 2017 #57
Lots of men watch porn and never expose themselves to women. Just as lots of folks watch emulatorloo Nov 2017 #59
There is a huge range of porn - semi-romantic to really gross and illegal acts FarCenter Nov 2017 #60
Damn couldnt you have started a Vegan/vegetarian vs meat eater thread? ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #61
I dont have mixed feelings on it at all - and I worked in the industry for over 10 years FreeState Nov 2017 #64
I saw an interesting post related in a way yesterday Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #67
What about boys who watch and get warped views of how to interact with women?? bobbieinok Nov 2017 #76
One of the reasons MAKE LOVE NOT PORN was set up... brooklynite Nov 2017 #79
I entirely disapprove of it. alarimer Nov 2017 #81
Porn is a waste of time for me personally steve2470 Nov 2017 #82
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