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janterry

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9. Teens, especially

Wed Nov 22, 2017, 09:26 AM

Nov 2017

have seen quite a bit of porn, and it has changed expectations (and the realities) of sex.

I don't know what to make of it. Vaginoplasty is one consequence. But others include 'performance' expectations. Teens/young adults are more pressured into sex that used to be 'just' for porn.

I suppose some people could argue that some of this is good - but as the mother of a teen, I worry for her and want her to feel empowered. Many girls (and boys) have expectations put on them that is NOT empowering - and unhealthy (IMO).

Porn culture has so invaded our lives, that in fourth grade (when my daughter still wanted to believe in Santa) she was approached by a girl - who went to all of the girls in class - and said: "You swallow" or "You don't swallow."

Everyone BUT my daughter knew what that meant.

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I have mixed feelings about porn [View all] Chasstev365 Nov 2017 OP

Good morning DU. Lol bearsfootball516 Nov 2017 #1

My Problem With Porn RobinA Nov 2017 #2

I agree it degrades women, but is it a better substitute than degrading Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #16

Are you saying that the women in porn arent real? MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #27

No, not at all. Sex workers are real women of course. But it is business? Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #31

There's no porn that could be equally degrading (or not) of men? Doodley Nov 2017 #51

You can put that broad brush away. DiverDave Nov 2017 #84

Some people are assholes...men and women. I can be am asshole at times...we all can. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #3

The "Excuse me while I whip this out..." meme is 40+ years old (reality? much older than THAT!) Moostache Nov 2017 #53

No different than alcohol with how some will use it Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #4

It is definitely "different" than alcohol whathehell Nov 2017 #6

No, that's not the areas that I look at Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #10

The problem is, there isn't just just "one genre"that degrades women whathehell Nov 2017 #23

Why do you say it degrades women? What about men as well? Doodley Nov 2017 #73

I wouldn't say it does not whathehell Nov 2017 #80

Alcoholics have a problem with alcohol. Period. Your first paragraph shows you have no rzemanfl Nov 2017 #7

You've got me wrong Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #11

If porn addicts go into withdrawal without porn and need to have medical supervision so they don't rzemanfl Nov 2017 #14

Porn addiction can lead to a whole host of things Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #15

Saying a is "just like" b is always a slippery slope. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #18

I think he was referring to the addictive nature of porn. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #19

Thank you. I hope he looks at the link I sent. "I fucking know" is not acceptance. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #21

I think a lot of us are on edge right now with the sexual harassment issue everywhere. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #22

It's the Russians and other trolls on this board pushing all those buttons that bothers me. rzemanfl Nov 2017 #35

I know, the crime of the century right before our eyes. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #36

Remember how the Russians treated the women in the countries the drove the Wehrmacht out of. rzemanfl Nov 2017 #40

Wow, very interesting story. I have no doubt Putin is a misogynist. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #42

I never drank irresponsibly HopeAgain Nov 2017 #33

Congratulations on 9 years. Nothing is "just like" something else. I am not suggesting rzemanfl Nov 2017 #37

Porn doesn't make men whip it out. LuckyCharms Nov 2017 #5

Yep, agree! There's more to it IMO than just porn. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #26

people who heaven05 Nov 2017 #8

Agree 100% DiverDave Nov 2017 #85

Teens, especially janterry Nov 2017 #9

Well movies cause violence MyNameGoesHere Nov 2017 #12

The yearly porn wars here are great fun Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #13

Really? By the time I was in 3rd grade I'd heard worse on School bus than you'd hear in any movie! Va Lefty Nov 2017 #30

Yup. It was in a Thor: Ragnarok discussion Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #38

Yes they tell me video and computer games "cause" murders too. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #58

Constant selling of sex coupled with violence all around...what could go wrong? Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #17

Don't Watch It ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #20

Not touching this topic with a.....never mind! (tm Emily Latella). WinkyDink Nov 2017 #24

You can also talk about objectification of woman that porn encourages el_bryanto Nov 2017 #25

Is it assumed only men watch porn? Throck Nov 2017 #28

It is a general assumption Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #29

Some couples film themselves then post it. Throck Nov 2017 #32

Neither Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #39

And only heterosexual men at at that n/t FreeState Nov 2017 #62

I'm skeptical that consuming certain media for entertainment makes people do things. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #34

Are you skeptical about advertising? Doodley Nov 2017 #74

Yes. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #78

If only we could go back to the days before porn GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #41

Oh Riiiiight... whathehell Nov 2017 #44

Surely I did not need the sarcasm thingy GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #65

I agree, but those same men tend to also treat men like shit too. They are the bullies, Doodley Nov 2017 #75

It seems you did.. whathehell Nov 2017 #83

A respectful opposing viewopint... brooklynite Nov 2017 #43

So mistreating human beings whathehell Nov 2017 #46

How many women get mistreated in your average Halloween horror movie? brooklynite Nov 2017 #48

A lot. whathehell Nov 2017 #70

Watching porn is not mistreating human beings. Doodley Nov 2017 #52

No, it's watching human beings being mistreated.. whathehell Nov 2017 #69

So porn stars are mistreated and those who post themselves as porn online are mistreated? Doodley Nov 2017 #72

I would say it depends on the porn, on each individual instance. thucythucy Nov 2017 #77

If porn induced men to "whip it out" SHRED Nov 2017 #45

I don't see where anyone here is making that claim.. whathehell Nov 2017 #47

It is literally in the OP Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #49

Okay. whathehell Nov 2017 #71

It's not just porn. GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #50

Those ads clearly served their purpose, then Orrex Nov 2017 #54

Absolutely, and GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #63

Here's a link for you! Orrex Nov 2017 #66

Sad commentary, GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #68

I've watched plenty of porn in my younger days and I never thought it was ok to whip it out unasked. phleshdef Nov 2017 #55

Men have perved (and worse) women since the start of time Cosmocat Nov 2017 #56

I think there is tremendous opportunity here... Locrian Nov 2017 #57

Lots of men watch porn and never expose themselves to women. Just as lots of folks watch emulatorloo Nov 2017 #59

There is a huge range of porn - semi-romantic to really gross and illegal acts FarCenter Nov 2017 #60

Damn couldnt you have started a Vegan/vegetarian vs meat eater thread? ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #61

I dont have mixed feelings on it at all - and I worked in the industry for over 10 years FreeState Nov 2017 #64

I saw an interesting post related in a way yesterday Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #67

What about boys who watch and get warped views of how to interact with women?? bobbieinok Nov 2017 #76

One of the reasons MAKE LOVE NOT PORN was set up... brooklynite Nov 2017 #79

I entirely disapprove of it. alarimer Nov 2017 #81

Porn is a waste of time for me personally steve2470 Nov 2017 #82