Franken: Accusers 3 and 4.

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221. There are a number of problems here.

1. Franken apparently engaged in "boundary violations." He reportedly engaged in intimate behavior without mutual consent. The intimate behavior was offensive, and done in public. The victims' clothing was reportedly intact. Franken reportedly did not attempt to move his hand under the victims' clothing. Franken's reported behavior is confined to touching the women's buttocks over their clothing.

2. The details of some of the events are sketchy and do not comport with Franken's known schedule of appearances at the time of the alleged incident(s).

3. I've read some reports that some of the victims have relationships with right wing notables, and some of those notables use communications servers associated with Russians and Russian bots.

4. And then there's Roger Stone. WHENEVER Roger Stone is involved in ANYTHING of a political nature, you can rest assured that the truth is being heavily skewed in favor of the current Republican power base.


Some on this thread are calling for Franken's resignation. I won't do that. The offenses that Franken REPORTEDLY committed do not rise to the level of legal misdemeanors, and certainly not felonies. Franken and others who took liberties with women (and/or men) are now in the middle of what appears to be societal and very public denunciations of such behavior. This is a societal flashpoint for sure, but it's also important to maintain a perspective that this kind of change does not call for overreactions and societal hysteria resulting in across-the-board punishing of any alleged offender, regardless of due process, sufficient corroborating evidence, the relative severity of the alleged offense, or political pressure. There are the allegations of Franken's behavior, and then there are detailed incidents of child sexual abuse by Roy-Boy Moore. They are on opposite ends of the spectrum and should be treated as such.