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Irish_Dem

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36. Dawg, this is the world I see, clear as day.

Thu Nov 23, 2017, 07:16 PM

Nov 2017

Yes, exactly, people work for extras beyond the guaranteed income.
Or take classes, or volunteer.

Also for personal fulfillment or societal good.
Arts, humanities, volunteer work.
For the advancement of self, others and society.

It is not a fancy, glitzy, over the top society.
But everything is quite nice, pretty and comfortable.

I agree, we have the ability to achieve this as a society.

Maybe it is not a pipe dream, maybe we are glimpsing the future.

Or maybe it is our home planet, and we got lost in the wrong galaxy.

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IMO, the DNC has to introduce a UBI plan or program if they [View all] CK_John Nov 2017 OP

Well why do I need a UBI program doc03 Nov 2017 #1

Univeral Basic Income to provide a means of income. CK_John Nov 2017 #3

wtf is it? left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #32

We introduce an idea like UBI in 2018 wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #2

What is "UBI"? nt tblue37 Nov 2017 #4

Universal basic income wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #6

"Universal Basic Income" MichMan Nov 2017 #7

Everyone should get the same amount, and it should make for a comfortable living. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #13

Shoot elephants !! pangaia Nov 2017 #26

If everyone is making a comfortable living, HeartachesNhangovers Nov 2017 #39

It should provide a basic income. Codeine Nov 2017 #40

My point is our current plans do not seem to be very effect, but CEO's are submitting plans. CK_John Nov 2017 #5

I don't see how our basic plans are not effective wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #8

If you are over 40 and do not have a degree you know you CK_John Nov 2017 #9

My guess is you don't have a clue how wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #20

With AI and robotics in our future, UBI is going to have to happen. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #10

Or learn how to adapt MichMan Nov 2017 #11

So we will have a society whose sole function is to service robots? Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #12

Ridiculous assumption to believe every single job will be automated MichMan Nov 2017 #16

We don't know that yet. AI is making great leaps....ridiculous to not consider it as a possibility. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #17

A few will, but look at WVir they know coal is never coming back but they can't face CK_John Nov 2017 #14

UBI suffers from the same flaw as the $15/hour minimum wage... brooklynite Nov 2017 #15

We have to intruduce something so lets get started, my CK_John Nov 2017 #18

Who pays? Soc sec relies on workers paying in so older people will wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #21

Cant let logic get in the way of a popular idea MichMan Nov 2017 #23

Tell you what... GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #19

Why would anyone work if they get paid for nothing and those who do doc03 Nov 2017 #22

I think with AI and robotics, our concept of work with change dramatically. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #28

"Why would anyone work if they get paid for nothing..." To answer your bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #29

You're 50 years ahead of your time. dawg Nov 2017 #24

Thats like saying we needed gas stations in 1865 GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #25

Okay - we'll let you opt out :) bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #30

LOL. I wont hold my breath👍 GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #33

I agree. dawg Nov 2017 #34

yep I agree steve2470 Nov 2017 #38

It is a good thing to imagine what an advanced society will look like. Our survival depends upon it. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #27

That's true. dawg Nov 2017 #35

Dawg, this is the world I see, clear as day. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #36

Canada is running a UBI pilot program Saviolo Nov 2017 #31

Kick sarcasmo Nov 2017 #37