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Fumesucker

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33. So you're saying there's no such thing as no knock raids?

Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #23)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:03 PM

Jul 2012

http://reason.com/blog/2008/07/31/mayors-dogs-killed-in-drug-rai

A police SWAT team raided the home of the mayor in the Prince George's County town of Berwyn Heights on Tuesday, shooting and killing his two dogs, after he brought in a 32-pound package of marijuana that had been delivered to his doorstep, police said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwyn_Heights,_Maryland_mayor's_residence_drug_raidf

While the Calvos were cleared of wrongdoing, the police were accused by the Calvos and civil rights groups of lacking a proper search warrant, excessive force, and failure to conduct a proper background investigation of the home being raided. Despite the criticisms, no action has been taken against the officers or their respective police departments. In August 2010, Sheriff Jackson stated, “we'd do it again. Tonight.”

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-08-16/justice/georgia.botched.raid_1_arthur-tesler-kathryn-johnston-drug-raid?_s=PM:CRIME

The city of Atlanta will pay $4.9 million to the family of Kathryn Johnston, a 92-year-old woman killed in a botched November 2006 drug raid, Mayor Kasim Reed's office announced Monday.

Johnston was shot to death by narcotics officers conducting a "no-knock" warrant. Investigators later determined the raid was based on falsified paperwork stating that illegal drugs were present in the home.

The incident prompted a major overhaul of the Atlanta police drug unit, and three former police officers were sentenced to prison terms for a cover-up that ensued.

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Ban guns? I have ONE word to answer that notion... HALABJA [View all] cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 OP

K/R (nt) NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #1

Look if we need to turn on our government we can get guns over the border flamingdem Jul 2012 #2

That's a defense for the notion of giving up your guns to the government? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #10

I'm in total agreement ,,the 2nd amendment orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #3

What troops did Washington command? nt michreject Jul 2012 #100

The Continental army ,made up of the militia orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #102

And regular Army michreject Jul 2012 #104

Really? Because how the fuck can your personal gun protect against a military gas attack? GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #4

I'm a little confused, too. Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2012 #5

Well, it's the traditional gun nut attitude towards the military. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #9

1 year, 5 months, 18 days at sea. That's what my DD-214 says. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #62

Can't read for context, can you? GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #68

"You have no idea how to construct a rational or logical argument to support your position." cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #77

You don't. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #82

If you were in front of me, I'd spit on you for it. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #88

Good thing for your health that you're not, then. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #91

spitting in the face of people?really? backwoodsbob Jul 2012 #98

What a bizarre post. That poster was saying the EXACT opposite. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #79

Fact check: We have had Kent State, the Hooverville massacre and the Whiskey rebellion TeamPooka Jul 2012 #101

So now you're advocating MILITARY GAS ATTACKS in order to confiscate guns? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #8

I am honestly starting to think there is something seriously wrong with you. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #11

MY personal gun and those of my neighbors keep the government from running roughshod over not only cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #20

We live in a Democracy, not a dictatorship. safeinOhio Jul 2012 #30

Oh, bullshit. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #38

There you are, making a case for the government taking over IN YOUR FIRST PARAGRAPH. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #46

Jayzus, are you drunk or something? Stop the drunk posting, its bad for you riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #54

Um, no. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #61

This is some Freeper stuff you're spouting right here. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #76

We don't live in the UK, the Netherlands, or "most industrialized nations". cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #84

I'll stand by what I said, thank you. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #93

that's like, unhinged elehhhhna Jul 2012 #29

you rock. great post. elehhhhna Jul 2012 #21

Have a seat over there with the genius. Tejas Jul 2012 #24

If we beat the military some way, you might not like who takes over with their guns. Hoyt Jul 2012 #90

Tell the afgan people they cannot take on the government. LOL, clueless! n-t Logical Jul 2012 #94

There's a difference between giving up your rights Warpy Jul 2012 #6

Well, don't tell him that. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #19

In the simplistic world-view of gun-worshipers and other RWers, it's everything or nothing. baldguy Jul 2012 #25

There's also a difference between a "gun grab" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #97

The government already tells you what you can do with your own body in the privacy of your home.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #7

The government DOES NOT tell me what I can do with my body in the privacy cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #13

I guess you've missed the entire drug war? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #16

The drug war won't and hasn't caused the gubmint to come to my door looking for contraband. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #23

So you're saying there's no such thing as no knock raids? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #33

How many houses on a street are you going to subject to NO KNOCK RAIDS? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #40

Gubmint people die now.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #41

For no good reason. Send them to confiscate the guns of American citizens? They'll die by the cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #51

If the law is changed to make your guns illegal then you will be breaking the law.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #57

I bet Cheney is masturbating furiously to your post. Tejas Jul 2012 #60

How do you know I'm not in that position myself? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #63

Doesn't matter. Tejas Jul 2012 #66

...and that little disagreement about abortion... elehhhhna Jul 2012 #32

What an inconvenient fact... nt riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #56

.gov can 'say' or 'decree' all they want, but Tejas Jul 2012 #36

Everyone is a snitch given the proper inducement.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #44

You forgot to mention your price, DHS is hiring. Tejas Jul 2012 #59

Your misunderstanding of my point is hilarious.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #64

You keep equating "trying/wishing/hoping" with DOING, so here's an exercise: Tejas Jul 2012 #67

Silly me, I just realized I'm engaging in a contest of wit with an unarmed person.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #81

LOL! He wouldn't have to worry about wit control, would he? GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #86

Really? GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #49

Are you saying that's the 'only' way, because I didn't. Tejas Jul 2012 #58

Yes, you did. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #70

Oh, correct, and it was a question that I asked you (that you dodged). Tejas Jul 2012 #71

Here's your answer. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #74

It was in the form of a question, no editing so good luck with your complex. Tejas Jul 2012 #85

Your original assertion about snitches was NOT in the form of a question. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #89

Sure it does. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #18

Am I legally permitted to chop up some lines and snort rails at home? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #26

I think GYD's premise is that .gov can see through walls or some crazy shit. Tejas Jul 2012 #28

Perry voter? GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #45

Magic 8-ball much? Tejas Jul 2012 #50

If you would - GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #65

It's happened to plenty of people. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #43

Your obsession, er, concern has been noted...run along :) Tejas Jul 2012 #52

Yawn. GaYellowDawg Jul 2012 #78

I have a ton of cocaine in my house, Tejas Jul 2012 #27

Next thing you know will happen is safeinOhio Jul 2012 #39

Don't go through Louisiana too much anymore but it was classic, Tejas Jul 2012 #47

This country will be so better off when all the old white over 50 Pizz Jul 2012 #12

We've been saying that for fifty years. Iggo Jul 2012 #15

All I wanted was a Pepsi. (n/t) Iggo Jul 2012 #14

I think I'll have a coke. Tejas Jul 2012 #17

Just one Pepsi... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #42

There's a middle ground Politicub Jul 2012 #22

It sounds like you want to go to war with your government. Loudly Jul 2012 #31

Actually it sounds like you'd advocate OUR government deciding what my rights are OUTSIDE cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #53

Our government as your fellow Americans. Loudly Jul 2012 #55

I have a few words in response: RATIONAL ARGUMENT!!! And Halabja isn't it... Malikshah Jul 2012 #34

its a public health issue Corgigal Jul 2012 #35

You don't even belong in this discussion. This isn't about taking your rights away. upaloopa Jul 2012 #37

someone just exposed themself... dionysus Jul 2012 #48

You almost have a point.... opiate69 Jul 2012 #69

Facts... Bucky Jul 2012 #75

D'oh!!!!! opiate69 Jul 2012 #80

It is impossible to give up one's rights. Zanzoobar Jul 2012 #72

OP Fail Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #73

The myopia is, frankly, astounding... opiate69 Jul 2012 #83

Iraqis, huh? Do they have a bullet button? Tejas Jul 2012 #92

Been Watching Too Much "Cops" or ODing on Redbull...AGAIN? triplepoint Jul 2012 #87

Oh for fuck's sake Scootaloo Jul 2012 #95

I depend on the Armed Forces of the United States to protect me from foreign dictators. hedgehog Jul 2012 #96

I've got two guns, they're over 200 miles away from where I'm sitting. DCKit Jul 2012 #99

Utter paranoia _ed_ Jul 2012 #103

So true Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #105

As an Indian you should know better than to step on a mound of angry red ants. L0oniX Jul 2012 #106

Hmmm RegieRocker Dec 2012 #107