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236. I do get where you are coming from

Fri Nov 24, 2017, 04:46 PM

Nov 2017

And even though some people are being a bit rude to me whenever I post anything on this subject, I understand the perspective. I get why people are seeing a bigger picture here. And I completely agree that the right-wing is using this story for nefarious purposes.

I am a person who supports everything Franken supports. He has been one of the best of the best in terms of Democrats in the senate. I have never disagreed with him really about anything policy-wise ever. I also think he is a funny and likable sort of guy.

All that being said, I do think that it is worth at least entertaining the possibility that he did touch women's rear ends without their consent. And if he did do that, it should be OK to say that we find such behavior to be objectionable.

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Al Franken still hasn't denied grabbing women [View all] oberliner Nov 2017 OP

the women who groped me havent either...or apologized. Maybe I should post anonymous complaints msongs Nov 2017 #1

Groping anyone is wrong... and not to be made light of. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #31

False accusations and character assination... FarPoint Nov 2017 #231

I agree with that too... the two positions are not mutually exclusive. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #245

Thanks for this post oberliner Nov 2017 #254

Hard to believe this is even debatable... regardless of anyone's opinion of InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #259

Only if it is legit JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #371

Obviously. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #382

Go right ahead. WinkyDink Nov 2017 #331

Good.... FarPoint Nov 2017 #2

He's handling it better than men who have more credible witnesses, or you for that matter. bettyellen Nov 2017 #3

What about the points the Washington Post article raises? oberliner Nov 2017 #8

My friend has a horse that died yesterday...very sad ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #10

He directly apologized for the joke photo- that he did not call her out as a liar when she obviously bettyellen Nov 2017 #13

A liberal writer in the Washington Post is carrying water for Breitbart and Stone? oberliner Nov 2017 #16

she told at least three lies- the grope being depicted in the pic, the "kiss" being written in for bettyellen Nov 2017 #28

The willingness to engage in a staged kiss with a stranger, as part of a USO show Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #321

She was a paid professional while rehearsing and kissing him- and lied about it. bettyellen Nov 2017 #327

That is not responsive to what I said. Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #329

She was paid for by the USO to kiss at least two men. She lied about the circumstances of that... bettyellen Nov 2017 #337

If you lie about one thing JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #372

The "liberal writer" of the WP probably feels she has has an obligation oasis Nov 2017 #41

Alleged behavior. n/t Beartracks Nov 2017 #340

What is your evidence for labeling her as liberal? Mediamatters spooky3 Nov 2017 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author tammywammy Nov 2017 #124

she is a liar ... stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #138

WRONG. Let me tell just what Franken has said and what he IS saying, and it is obvious: LBM20 Nov 2017 #344

This post made it worth it to wade through all of the mindless and biased Atticus Nov 2017 #348

It's more than being politically smart. Its not being vile. Something most molesters have in common suffragette Nov 2017 #47

The Wash Post has raised legitimate points worthy of debate. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #34

Instead of debating what I said you keep repeating that. Seeing the same from "Revolution" folks who bettyellen Nov 2017 #51

huh? wasn't debating you... my response wasn't even directed to you at all and certainly InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #74

Sorry- so funny how that response was word for word the same as another DUer here.... bettyellen Nov 2017 #229

Scripted? Now you have a conspiracy theory?! Please, do tell! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #248

There's a conspiracy of "fake concern" around this from purported lefties- same who ripped HRC to bettyellen Nov 2017 #264

It's absolutely fine you have that view, I don't disagree with you about bad actors on twitter... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #276

It's not merely "my view" it's the reality of our political situation. Fake liberal trolls abound. bettyellen Nov 2017 #328

There you go again... why would you suggest I'm playing games? InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #341

It is my view also. Thank you for your tenacity and common sense. nt Atticus Nov 2017 #349

Wow, thanks for pointing that out about the Revolution R B Garr Nov 2017 #356

We gotta hit them with everything we've got JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #373

This is all political bait, bites and " I'll fix- you". . . FarPoint Nov 2017 #37

you just seem very desperate . stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #154

My take is that he is not denying the allegations. Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #317

Well said! mcar Nov 2017 #366

My guess Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2017 #387

Thank you. cwydro Nov 2017 #73

Well... FarPoint Nov 2017 #128

I'm not! JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #374

Please, enough of this awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #4

The Washington Post published this today oberliner Nov 2017 #5

Oh for crying out loud... FarPoint Nov 2017 #40

Same agenda as the writer of the article I posted oberliner Nov 2017 #94

For... FarPoint Nov 2017 #135

You have been spent more than a day or two on this Obe, and so has DU, while net neutrality pretty still_one Nov 2017 #72

I support your passion for the issue of net neutrality oberliner Nov 2017 #92

What is your total obession with Franken? Thread after thread... womanofthehills Nov 2017 #144

Only about a half dozen oberliner Nov 2017 #171

So you're in it for the attention. jl_theprofessor Nov 2017 #209

I asked the same question a couple of days ago. I think you've hit the nail on the head w this. nt Doremus Nov 2017 #225

In a sense, yes oberliner Nov 2017 #265

I'd makes the same allegation as well were I more of dancer. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #388

ITA JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #375

"Time to move on"? I'm not so sure that's a fact. WinkyDink Nov 2017 #334

Its in there, read it again. Nt BootinUp Nov 2017 #6

Having waded through all the faux outrage and concern duly recited above, I am compelled to ask: Atticus Nov 2017 #351

Still at it I see. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #7

Everyone here knows exactly what kind of person Trump is oberliner Nov 2017 #9

You seem to attack Franken daily. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #12

The article I posted raises some reasonable points oberliner Nov 2017 #15

Not fooled. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #17

OK oberliner Nov 2017 #18

Walmart? ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #24

How is it you know that? n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #62

Well.... give him a call ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #21

This is a discussion forum oberliner Nov 2017 #23

So do I, so please call him ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #26

Stop with the passive aggressive bullshit "raising points". RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #76

I don't want Franken gone oberliner Nov 2017 #96

I don't think anyone should WANT Franken gone...hell, I was hopin' he'd throw his hat in the ring InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #343

Fully Agreed DarthDem Nov 2017 #147

Agreed pandr32 Nov 2017 #30

One person has oberliner Nov 2017 #106

Exactly.... FarPoint Nov 2017 #44

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar oberliner Nov 2017 #100

And a troll is just a troll unc70 Nov 2017 #111

Amen oberliner Nov 2017 #126

And no hides ever? unc70 Nov 2017 #182

And are not star members Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #237

If anyone wants to pay for my star membership oberliner Nov 2017 #267

Two Things ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #277

Unless it's perhaps a deep cover op from ??? n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #345

+1000 stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #143

And.....here is the point....there is no equivalence between what Trump has done and Franken..... ollie10 Nov 2017 #46

Actually if true, it is real groping. mythology Nov 2017 #88

It might help if you could give us the entire quote....from Franken....including ALL the context.... ollie10 Nov 2017 #105

Here you go. Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #323

So obviously he did not admit to groping..... ollie10 Nov 2017 #338

Agreed oberliner Nov 2017 #98

Trump's ALLEGED actions JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #376

Still not falling for the nonsense. He's a warm and genuine person, not a groper. Kimchijeon Nov 2017 #11

Warm and genuine people can be gropers. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #204

It's only accusations JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #379

Do you say the same thing about Roy Moore accusers? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #383

Yep JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #386

He expressly acknowledged, "I crossed the line for some women" Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #324

How can he deny it Madam Mossfern Nov 2017 #14

He said in the statement that he "crossed a line" oberliner Nov 2017 #20

"For some women" you think everyone has the same line? Some want no contact at all, others dry hump bettyellen Nov 2017 #33

The women specifically accused him of grabbing their butts oberliner Nov 2017 #103

The Republican woman said it - don't forget womanofthehills Nov 2017 #141

"Sloppy hugger" You can't be serious Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #207

He's clearly only admitted to taking that staged picture. In the meantime he has welcomed an bettyellen Nov 2017 #211

The journalist is a liberal oberliner Nov 2017 #223

She was trashing people for calling out Trumps lies. Enough said. Not on our side. Not credible. bettyellen Nov 2017 #238

Yep JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #377

I think he's saying that he crossed whatever line the anonymous accusers perceive as a boundary. lapucelle Nov 2017 #42

But the accusations were very specific oberliner Nov 2017 #104

who are "they"? shanny Nov 2017 #146

Two More Women Accuse Sen. Al Franken Of Inappropriate Touching oberliner Nov 2017 #151

You grabbed my butt in 2010 Nevernose Nov 2017 #163

They both spoke to reporters though oberliner Nov 2017 #166

Thats how anonymous works Nevernose Nov 2017 #185

Why are you threatening to make false accusations about me? oberliner Nov 2017 #195

*Ahem* Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #197

Thanks - I will respond to your post immediately oberliner Nov 2017 #199

Take your time. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #206

N/S JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #378

That's now what they said. Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #326

I am aware. What I want to know is who they are. shanny Nov 2017 #164

They asked that their named be withheld oberliner Nov 2017 #167

That's their perogative. It is mine to withhold judgment until I can consider the source. shanny Nov 2017 #196

Is that a quote? lapucelle Nov 2017 #192

Is what a quote? oberliner Nov 2017 #193

Never mind. I found the accusers' quotes. lapucelle Nov 2017 #202

Valid point... no question. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #35

I don't give a crap. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #19

Richard Painter is a right-wing Republican oberliner Nov 2017 #22

How many times have you posted that in this thread? Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #25

exactly now bluestarone Nov 2017 #36

I've only pointed out that Painter is a Republican once oberliner Nov 2017 #109

Wrong. Richard Painter is an old-fashioned moderate Republican The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #27

Well said... FarPoint Nov 2017 #77

George W Bush is not an old-fashioned moderate Republican oberliner Nov 2017 #112

He was their ethics counsel for two years The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #123

Provide proof of the author's political affiliation tenderfoot Nov 2017 #38

Go to her Facebook page oberliner Nov 2017 #113

post the link tenderfoot Nov 2017 #115

Facebook.com oberliner Nov 2017 #118

post the link to her facebook page tenderfoot Nov 2017 #129

Some "left wing" Dems are eyeing Franken's seat. The Revolution is desperate enough to promote this. bettyellen Nov 2017 #39

Richard Painter is speaking truth..... ollie10 Nov 2017 #50

Richard Painter is an ethicist and legal scholar lapucelle Nov 2017 #213

you nailed it nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #281

My thought exactly. Thank you! nt dflprincess Nov 2017 #353

How else can he defend himself from something he doesn't remember? wryter2000 Nov 2017 #29

He can say that he never intentionally grabbed a woman's butt oberliner Nov 2017 #116

When did he stop beating his wife? Sheesh blimablam Nov 2017 #32

Its not an article. Its The Fix column, which is opinion. spooky3 Nov 2017 #43

Opinion pieces are articles oberliner Nov 2017 #60

No, they are not. spooky3 Nov 2017 #108

The author of this WaPo opinion, Amber Phillips, has been described in this thread The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #45

And No Reply From The Op ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #49

She is a left-wing Democrat oberliner Nov 2017 #52

Post links tenderfoot Nov 2017 #69

+1000 stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #149

WTF is wrong with being a left-wing Democrat?!?! Proud to be one!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #80

Nothing, but Amber Phillips isn't one. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #84

Ohh okay, if you say so... no idea. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #91

Mediamatters appears to agree with Velveteen Ocelot. spooky3 Nov 2017 #117

Great... I guess. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #122

Yes, she is oberliner Nov 2017 #121

Then maybe she should stop writing everybody-does-it op-eds The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #127

Post links tenderfoot Nov 2017 #152

Is that why you voted for Bernie? tenderfoot Nov 2017 #97

Why so rude?!?!I am VERY proud to have voted for Bernie in the primary... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #119

Your concern has been duly noted tenderfoot Nov 2017 #125

lol, good one!! yes, frothing at the mouth... just because I'm torn over this issue... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #148

You're not torn - you think Franken is guilty tenderfoot Nov 2017 #165

Thank you for stating the obvious. Wwcd Nov 2017 #180

The only thing obvious is you. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #218

Rofl Wwcd Nov 2017 #280

Thanks for making my point. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #283

Stop reliving the dream of the primaries. Bern had his chance. Wwcd Nov 2017 #306

LOL Mr. "Mindreader"... got any lottery numbers too?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #186

This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Nov 2017 #191

Calm down. Breathe in, pause, breathe out. Wwcd Nov 2017 #311

Yes, you'll get no disagreement from me... just wish I was permitted to have one too... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #322

Do left wing Dems criticize Bernie Sanders for saying spooky3 Nov 2017 #120

I'll keep you company while you wait for the OP. No. No, they don't. n/t Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #133

:-) spooky3 Nov 2017 #140

I'm out of popcorn! Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #142

Wrong! ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #279

Exactly. I was just going to post about her criticism of Bernie Sanders. Demit Nov 2017 #54

So, the OP is misrepresenting this writer as liberal, as well as the piece being journalism by WaPo? bettyellen Nov 2017 #56

This well fed troll ate more today than on thanksgiving! Lucky Luciano Nov 2017 #363

How long are you going to keep flogging this horse? Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #48

The Washington Post published this today oberliner Nov 2017 #57

I published what I wrote above today. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #58

Lol . Nt BootinUp Nov 2017 #81

Aw, jeez. I know! n/t Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #83

Low-hanging fruit Orrex Nov 2017 #68

Franken was low-hanging fruit for the Republicans behind this spate of allegations. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #75

All they need is a distraction Orrex Nov 2017 #86

There's that too. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #89

And while Al Franken is lying beneath the Big Liberal Bus of Righteousness The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #102

True, true and true. Orrex Nov 2017 #114

Well said. yardwork Nov 2017 #354

Except the OP defended other cases of sexism JI7 Nov 2017 #234

I don't trust anyone with exactly 64,000 posts, pal. Orrex Nov 2017 #261

There is no winning move Loki Liesmith Nov 2017 #53

How about admitting that he grabbed their butts (if that's what he did) and apologizing for same? oberliner Nov 2017 #71

Why don't you go into politics yourself and do it your way? yardwork Nov 2017 #233

Game theory Loki Liesmith Nov 2017 #367

Good points oberliner Nov 2017 #368

correct.nt BootinUp Nov 2017 #369

Not another post ! pangaia Nov 2017 #55

Anyone think this is an eloborate TURING TEST? n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #65

Turing and Turing in the widening gyre... Orrex Nov 2017 #70

I was trying to restrain myself in this thread, but DAY-UM! Gots to give PROPS, Orrex! WinkyDink Nov 2017 #335

If so, at this point it's in serious danger of leading to a FAIL. n/t Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #99

I know you want to believe that 100% of accusers are accurate...... ollie10 Nov 2017 #59

The article in the OP is about Franken's statement oberliner Nov 2017 #63

You seem to be parsing words ollie10 Nov 2017 #95

Franken is being respectful of what these women believe they experienced. mn9driver Nov 2017 #61

Thank you. I believe you get it, as do a number of others here. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #66

Are you saying he doesn't know if he deliberately grabbed someone's butt or not? oberliner Nov 2017 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author mn9driver Nov 2017 #82

Im saying he almost certainly does not remember these women. mn9driver Nov 2017 #79

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #130

Trolling is make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting oberliner Nov 2017 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #139

Exactly DarthDem Nov 2017 #179

Yes It is ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #282

It's certainly a fair question... just another reason I have mixed feelings about this. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #156

IF he did grope them, being respectful NOW is playing people for fools. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #87

Then read my long reply above. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #93

You make some valid points... why I'm so torn over the whole Franken situation. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #153

Thank you very much for taking the time to read it. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #157

Extremely complex... and why there are valid points to be made on BOTH sides. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #160

I think that's a false equivalence. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #172

That's fine. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #188

Another voice of reason! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #90

Great post. Nt BootinUp Nov 2017 #145

Al Franken still hasn't denied grabbing women Hayduke Bomgarte Nov 2017 #64

and Francisco Franco is still dead DBoon Nov 2017 #85

mmmmpf Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #101

A better statement would have ended it oberliner Nov 2017 #132

I am so tired of your BS. Vinnie From Indy Nov 2017 #107

The article in the Washington Post raises legitimate points oberliner Nov 2017 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #137

This Orrex Nov 2017 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #155

If you want to talk more about this topic, please feel free to send me a PM oberliner Nov 2017 #161

No. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #169

I've been responding to posts as quickly as I can oberliner Nov 2017 #159

Then maybe stop replying so curtly to so many at once. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #170

Thank you for that advice oberliner Nov 2017 #226

How do we know it's a real person? The responses are the kind a machine bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #246

nice hitjob but it was a fail like the last one . stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #134

That damned Washington Post has got it in for Democrats! oberliner Nov 2017 #158

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #162

I am not trolling and I have attempted to address everyone who has engaged me seriously oberliner Nov 2017 #178

You haven't addressed a single point in my long response above. Not one. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #184

This is a really good analysis oberliner Nov 2017 #201

Thank you. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #212

I do get where you are coming from oberliner Nov 2017 #236

'... Franken doesn't want to get into the position of publicly expressing disbelief of the women.. ' crosinski Nov 2017 #230

you seem very desperate . stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #175

You seem to be oddly interested in negative stories about Senator Franken. MineralMan Nov 2017 #168

I think the article in the OP raises good points oberliner Nov 2017 #173

I see. Oh, well... MineralMan Nov 2017 #174

come on, stop this shit, let the Republicans and the corporate media do their thing... steve2470 Nov 2017 #176

Literally just posted an article from the Washington Post oberliner Nov 2017 #181

uh huh nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #189

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #177

Moscow? oberliner Nov 2017 #183

He's trying not to say these women are liars that's why he says he doesn't remember blueinredohio Nov 2017 #187

I think you've just summarized in one sentence what a lot of us have been saying. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #190

Then why does he say he "crossed a line" ? oberliner Nov 2017 #198

*Ahem* Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #200

I'm really not sure what Al Franken is trying to say, to be honest, but I know one thing for sure... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #342

These claims against Al Franken are the most lame and arthritisR_US Nov 2017 #194

Just because that's how you react, which is entirely fine, that doesn't mean, obviously, that InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #224

Hold strong, InAbLuEsTaTe True Dough Nov 2017 #287

Thanks....what's odd is my zero-tolerance for ass-grabbin' has NOTHING InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #296

Ass grabbing is not acceptable in 2017 True Dough Nov 2017 #298

So if he doesn't deny it he is guilty but if Trump or Moore denies it doc03 Nov 2017 #203

Trump and Moore are without a doubt 100 percent guilty of the much more serious charges against them oberliner Nov 2017 #205

How could they be guilty they say the women are lying and doc03 Nov 2017 #210

There is copious supporting evidence oberliner Nov 2017 #221

You don't seem to understand, that is what I am pointing out but there is zero evidence doc03 Nov 2017 #359

Trashing this thread, and everyone you post henceforth. Pathwalker Nov 2017 #208

That's unfortunate oberliner Nov 2017 #216

I'm tired of you insulting good Democrats. I have yet to read Pathwalker Nov 2017 #220

I spent the entire election cycle defending Hillary Clinton against the Bernie folks oberliner Nov 2017 #222

well done...... sigh nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #319

So he should do like the Republicons and deny it, case closed he is doc03 Nov 2017 #214

If he never grabbed anyone's butt then he should say so oberliner Nov 2017 #219

What is with this you are sure going out of your way to make Franken guilty. doc03 Nov 2017 #215

Franken apologized and said that he crossed a line oberliner Nov 2017 #217

But you aparently agree with Kellianne Conway that Trump and Moore are doc03 Nov 2017 #361

There is clearly an agenda here. Attacking Richard Painter who is one of the biggest critics of the JI7 Nov 2017 #227

Richard Painter is a Republican oberliner Nov 2017 #241

No it's not. Attacking those who push right wing agenda is what this site is about. Mike flynn is JI7 Nov 2017 #242

Richard Painter pushes a right-wing agenda oberliner Nov 2017 #244

The reason you are attacking Painter is because he is attacking Trump JI7 Nov 2017 #247

I'm not attacking Painter oberliner Nov 2017 #268

Robert Mueller is a Republican also. You did it to try to discredit Painter on his attacks on trump JI7 Nov 2017 #270

I did not try to discredit Painter's attacks on Trump oberliner Nov 2017 #273

Bush isn't in office anymore. The goal right now is to bring down trump such Franken and Painter JI7 Nov 2017 #278

His apology doesn't seem confusing to me. Beartracks Nov 2017 #228

That's a fair response oberliner Nov 2017 #240

Yes, that's the deal njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #303

Where is that trash button? Butterflylady Nov 2017 #232

Okay it's wrong to grab anyone. But in no way is there any equivalency to his actions and that of YOHABLO Nov 2017 #235

100 percent agree oberliner Nov 2017 #239

Why don't you work to get out the vote for Doug Jones, then? yardwork Nov 2017 #243

No one on DU needs to be told to vote for Doug Jones oberliner Nov 2017 #250

really ? You donated money to Mr. Jones ? steve2470 Nov 2017 #257

Everyone is different oberliner Nov 2017 #271

245 replies, 2 recs....... just sayin'.. panader0 Nov 2017 #249

I've noticed that too oberliner Nov 2017 #253

I bet it would be extremely popular on republican sites. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #256

I'm sure the Republicans are cackling with glee over this OP steve2470 Nov 2017 #260

Yes, it's clever. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #263

Republicans don't care about our discussions on DU oberliner Nov 2017 #269

Come on, you CANNOT be that naive steve2470 Nov 2017 #272

No. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #290

Have you ever encountered anyone in real life who has heard of Democratic Underground? oberliner Nov 2017 #291

BS.... you are good at this, kudos nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #295

The Cave does. Ever heard of it? Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #288

you've been here X years and you still say that ? steve2470 Nov 2017 #292

Member since: Thu Jul 20, 2006, 12:36 PM steve2470 Nov 2017 #294

Here's a thought: most Democrats don't know about DU either... brooklynite Nov 2017 #346

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Nov 2017 #347

here's a thought, I don't care for your tone steve2470 Nov 2017 #360

The truth is sometimes unpleasant brooklynite Nov 2017 #362

Neither has the Pope, leaving the door open .... what bullshit. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #251

your OP heaven05 Nov 2017 #252

yep you nailed it good sir steve2470 Nov 2017 #255

Gambit declined - not taking the bait. Fozzledick Nov 2017 #258

Thank you for sharing your perspective oberliner Nov 2017 #262

you are welcome heaven05 Nov 2017 #266

You seem particularly affected by this topic. Tatiana Nov 2017 #274

nailed it nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #275

+1. Thanks for speaking my mind. nocalflea Nov 2017 #284

I do not have a negative opinion of Senator Franken oberliner Nov 2017 #286

BS steve2470 Nov 2017 #289

What's your alternate theory? oberliner Nov 2017 #299

oh, good attempt at baiting me steve2470 Nov 2017 #302

You can send it to me in a PM if you'd rather do that oberliner Nov 2017 #312

no thanks steve2470 Nov 2017 #314

Your posts on this topic do not support that assertion. Tatiana Nov 2017 #305

The reaction from DU to this story is mystifying to me oberliner Nov 2017 #316

It's not a hard news story, it's an opinion article steve2470 Nov 2017 #318

Skinner and Earl, you two studying this ? steve2470 Nov 2017 #285

I think we should all give Andy Kauffman a round of applause. bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #293

You must have a fixation on Franken SonofDonald Nov 2017 #297

There are not nine postings of this same exact post from me going at one time oberliner Nov 2017 #301

Here a a few OPs about Franken: Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #304

Pretty sure that is not nine oberliner Nov 2017 #307

Countless posts though. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #315

Even counting the post that was removed, it's still not 9 oberliner Nov 2017 #330

Point to me where I said it was 9? Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #332

I didn't make up anything SonofDonald Nov 2017 #339

Just trying for post#300. BootinUp Nov 2017 #300

If more people actually engaged with the content of the article oberliner Nov 2017 #308

Maybe if it was half decent journalism. Nt BootinUp Nov 2017 #313

Here is me MFM008 Nov 2017 #309

yep nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #310

In the court of public opinion, based on the evidence presented to us, the jury Mr. Ected Nov 2017 #320

Bearing in mind, they let the entire adult population of MN render the final verdict brooklynite Nov 2017 #325

Of which I am one. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #333

After this thread we are all Dadists now! n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #336

It probably has to do with legal advice. ananda Nov 2017 #350

You just keep pushing this, don't you? Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #352

This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #355

And I haven't denied being Mr Universe! ollie10 Nov 2017 #357

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #358

I've defended the OP from such accusations in the past. I think I'll stop doing that. Squinch Nov 2017 #365

The Fix? DFW Nov 2017 #364

The two JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #370

It started with Roy Moore's problem to take our national attention away from gun control to groping. dubyadiprecession Nov 2017 #380

381 posts and 4 recs BoneyardDem Nov 2017 #381

He hasn't denied kidnapping Judge Crater, either. marble falls Nov 2017 #384

This is called stirring shit Lil Missy Nov 2017 #385

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #389