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yurbud

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Fri Nov 24, 2017, 08:24 PM Nov 2017

A tale of two photos: Is Franken accuser's photo shopped? [View all]

As someone who messes around with Photoshop quite a bit, I agree with the author of this post.

These are just a few snippets, but her detailed analysis is pretty persuasive.

The most convincing to me was the odd shape & darkness of the shadow on Al's face, and when she pulled up the brightness on the photo, you could see the angular rather than smooth edge of the woman's hair and light where it should be in the shadow.

This doesn't mean her accusation isn't true, but it does go to credibility.

But then there’s this photo, offered by Franken’s second accuser, Lindsay Menz, who went to CNN with the story, as evidence that Franken groped her rear at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010. According to CNN, Franken said he did not recall the photo-shoot, which is plausible considering that he would have had his photo taken with dozens if not hundreds of people at the event. Menz originally posted it on Facebook.



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My opinion is that this was originally a picture of Franken alone against this same background, to which Menz was added in such a way to make them appear very close together. It would have been easy to do compared to the Tweeden one. Why? The background is simple (makes a huge difference), the dark figures contrast well against it (except in two places, about which more later, but also makes a huge difference), and the light is diffuse, so the shopper doesn’t have to worry about placing shadows precisely.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/22/1717807/-A-tale-of-two-photos
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Look out below. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #1
Hahaha! n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #4
So is the contemporary Facebook post photoshopped too? VMA131Marine Nov 2017 #2
Do you have a link to the contemporaneos Facebool post photo? lapucelle Nov 2017 #7
Sister not on Facebook until 2011 ? riverwalker Nov 2017 #11
Nice catch! blimablam Nov 2017 #28
No one has seen the Facebook post which is weird riverwalker Nov 2017 #9
She is a right wing liar...no way Franken groped this right wing person with her husband Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #39
It doesn't matter because what's depicted in the photo isn't at issue. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #3
I agree Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #5
Of course it matters njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #60
Also, I don't remember where I saw it, but there's another photo of Franken at the fair that day pnwmom Nov 2017 #6
Yet because he got girl cooties on that one. elehhhhna Nov 2017 #8
If I'm going to Photoshop an Al picture... elehhhhna Nov 2017 #10
You can't draw any definitive conclusions from a 72dpi image. Demit Nov 2017 #12
True. If you blow this image up in Photoshop to 1200% it is also obviously very compressed. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #43
What looks odd Meowmee Nov 2017 #13
I agree. They seem to be floating is space. jalan48 Nov 2017 #14
Yep Meowmee Nov 2017 #15
In the close-up picture the white triangles look like cloth that has a ripple in it. A Brand New World Nov 2017 #20
Yes it could be a piece of cloth Meowmee Nov 2017 #32
Agreed. Very obvious when blown up to 1200%. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #44
I havent blown it up Meowmee Nov 2017 #81
They wouldn't be that bright njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #62
Yep Meowmee Nov 2017 #80
To me, the right side of Frankens body seems to be missing (his right) Compared to the left side anneboleyn Nov 2017 #69
Agree Meowmee Nov 2017 #79
That appears to be the same shirt he wore at the 2015 Rondo Days parade Generic Brad Nov 2017 #16
There is a reflection in the window behind them of what appears to be an arm (presumably hers?) LisaL Nov 2017 #17
Looking at it some more, looks like an arm around his waist? LisaL Nov 2017 #23
No arm. There is a light and shadow line in the reflection which is missing on the door itself. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #45
I am talking about the window behind them, not the door. LisaL Nov 2017 #46
The photgrapher's eye level is just higher than his, three siding lines in reflection. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #49
Given that you don't know the distances or the angles, or where the photographer was, LisaL Nov 2017 #51
We do know the distances and angles and where the photographer was, as revealed by the photo. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #59
If there were a pic of him alone on a deserted island ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #18
Or so they could write about sex clams NotASurfer Nov 2017 #21
What are these "sex clams" I'm hearing about? Control-Z Nov 2017 #22
I don't know what a sex clam is ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #24
Alabama newspaper headline NotASurfer Nov 2017 #25
Hey,does anyone notice something strange with the first Picture? Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #19
This probably wouldn't have been taken at the DFL booth The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #64
Ah,do remember Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #26
Is english your second language? nt fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #29
Intetesting MFM008 Nov 2017 #30
Quick: send this exonerating evidence to Al Franken! brooklynite Nov 2017 #31
Not quite DeminPennswoods Nov 2017 #33
No, he has not accepted responsibility. GatoGordo Nov 2017 #35
How would he remember all the photos...and they will just keep making claims because there Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #40
Occams Razor... brooklynite Nov 2017 #48
shitty photoshop for propaganda purposes has a long tradition yurbud Nov 2017 #53
remember the Kerry Fonda photo? yurbud Nov 2017 #56
...but we're not talking about the average FREE REPUBLIC user creating their own meme... brooklynite Nov 2017 #61
here's a good collection: yurbud Nov 2017 #58
Even if the photo is 'real'. I still don't see anything there...are woman who's husband is taking Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #83
I admire Al's response to this, but that doesn't mean his accusers are all on the up and up yurbud Nov 2017 #78
Women cannot be believed? GatoGordo Nov 2017 #34
It must be a real burden gracing us with your presence on this forum. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #38
I would not believe lying rightie women in what is obviously a ploy to destroy Franken. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #41
Women can be believed at least as much as men but charges need to be verified yurbud Nov 2017 #52
Women can be believed, and their complaints should be taken seriously. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #68
Okay, I'll play. How come his glasses are not displaced to the right? Hugin Nov 2017 #36
Oh FFS, I've had it with these "photo is fake" conspiracy-theories. DetlefK Nov 2017 #37
I don't see any issues with the photo period...and I doubt very much that Franken Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #42
Standing right next to a window reflected in the background, their heads missing in the reflection. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #47
But I see what appears to be an arm and a back reflected in there. LisaL Nov 2017 #50
An arm? B2G Nov 2017 #54
There are a whole bunch of things that are reflected in the window, how do you not see LisaL Nov 2017 #55
On first glance, it looked like B2G Nov 2017 #63
The reflection in the reflected window is positioned behind the photographer. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #57
Al's eyes appear to be looking to the left of her focus... Sancho Nov 2017 #65
No they would not "take several"... brooklynite Nov 2017 #67
I thought Franken stopped by their booth/shop... Sancho Nov 2017 #71
As a photographer, I work with Lightroom all day long modifying pictures Calista241 Nov 2017 #70
Her husband took the photo. LisaL Nov 2017 #72
"One would think that she would have shown some reaction if she were being groped." oberliner Nov 2017 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author LisaL Nov 2017 #75
good point. yurbud Nov 2017 #77
What would convince you that it's not photo shopped? oberliner Nov 2017 #74
The original full-sized file would be a good start. Where is it? L. Coyote Nov 2017 #82
Gee, I still cant figure out why some women forthemiddle Nov 2017 #76
Conspiracy theory or justifiable suspicion? See this thread: yurbud Nov 2017 #84
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