Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
Showing Original Post only (View all)A tale of two photos: Is Franken accuser's photo shopped? [View all]
As someone who messes around with Photoshop quite a bit, I agree with the author of this post.
These are just a few snippets, but her detailed analysis is pretty persuasive.
The most convincing to me was the odd shape & darkness of the shadow on Al's face, and when she pulled up the brightness on the photo, you could see the angular rather than smooth edge of the woman's hair and light where it should be in the shadow.
This doesn't mean her accusation isn't true, but it does go to credibility.
But then theres this photo, offered by Frankens second accuser, Lindsay Menz, who went to CNN with the story, as evidence that Franken groped her rear at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010. According to CNN, Franken said he did not recall the photo-shoot, which is plausible considering that he would have had his photo taken with dozens if not hundreds of people at the event. Menz originally posted it on Facebook.

***
My opinion is that this was originally a picture of Franken alone against this same background, to which Menz was added in such a way to make them appear very close together. It would have been easy to do compared to the Tweeden one. Why? The background is simple (makes a huge difference), the dark figures contrast well against it (except in two places, about which more later, but also makes a huge difference), and the light is diffuse, so the shopper doesnt have to worry about placing shadows precisely.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/22/1717807/-A-tale-of-two-photos
FULL TEXT]

***
My opinion is that this was originally a picture of Franken alone against this same background, to which Menz was added in such a way to make them appear very close together. It would have been easy to do compared to the Tweeden one. Why? The background is simple (makes a huge difference), the dark figures contrast well against it (except in two places, about which more later, but also makes a huge difference), and the light is diffuse, so the shopper doesnt have to worry about placing shadows precisely.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/22/1717807/-A-tale-of-two-photos
FULL TEXT]
84 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
She is a right wing liar...no way Franken groped this right wing person with her husband
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#39
It doesn't matter because what's depicted in the photo isn't at issue.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Nov 2017
#3
Also, I don't remember where I saw it, but there's another photo of Franken at the fair that day
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#6
True. If you blow this image up in Photoshop to 1200% it is also obviously very compressed.
L. Coyote
Nov 2017
#43
In the close-up picture the white triangles look like cloth that has a ripple in it.
A Brand New World
Nov 2017
#20
To me, the right side of Frankens body seems to be missing (his right) Compared to the left side
anneboleyn
Nov 2017
#69
There is a reflection in the window behind them of what appears to be an arm (presumably hers?)
LisaL
Nov 2017
#17
No arm. There is a light and shadow line in the reflection which is missing on the door itself.
L. Coyote
Nov 2017
#45
The photgrapher's eye level is just higher than his, three siding lines in reflection.
L. Coyote
Nov 2017
#49
Given that you don't know the distances or the angles, or where the photographer was,
LisaL
Nov 2017
#51
We do know the distances and angles and where the photographer was, as revealed by the photo.
L. Coyote
Nov 2017
#59
How would he remember all the photos...and they will just keep making claims because there
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#40
...but we're not talking about the average FREE REPUBLIC user creating their own meme...
brooklynite
Nov 2017
#61
Even if the photo is 'real'. I still don't see anything there...are woman who's husband is taking
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#83
I admire Al's response to this, but that doesn't mean his accusers are all on the up and up
yurbud
Nov 2017
#78
I would not believe lying rightie women in what is obviously a ploy to destroy Franken.
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#41
Women can be believed, and their complaints should be taken seriously.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Nov 2017
#68
I don't see any issues with the photo period...and I doubt very much that Franken
Demsrule86
Nov 2017
#42
Standing right next to a window reflected in the background, their heads missing in the reflection.
L. Coyote
Nov 2017
#47
There are a whole bunch of things that are reflected in the window, how do you not see
LisaL
Nov 2017
#55
The reflection in the reflected window is positioned behind the photographer.
L. Coyote
Nov 2017
#57
"One would think that she would have shown some reaction if she were being groped."
oberliner
Nov 2017
#73