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ethereal1

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79. How about...

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:37 PM

Jul 2012

Advocating abolishing the 1st Amendment?

If I don't like what you say, why should I support your right to say it?

You clearly don't support the 2nd Amendment and suggest we abolish one of the first amendments our founding fathers though necessary to ensure the survival of this great republic.

Unfortunately, horrific events such as this will happen again. If guns are outlawed, these determined savages will turn to more deadly means of delivery (ie... look at the nice little Improvised Explosives experiment he had in his apartment).

We need to correctly identify the root cause of these events, and it is always the man/woman. The tool they use for the delivery will change and evolve over time, but it is illogical, and short-sighted to blame the gun for this man's actions.

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I am not advocating banning gun ownership. However - [View all] Avalux Jul 2012 OP

No one is, really: what most most of us want is reasonable control over these apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #1

You going to run for head of the Department of Needs? rl6214 Jul 2012 #58

He and a bunch of other people. This gun culture stuff is a cancer. Hoyt Jul 2012 #63

But not you, all you can do about it is whine on the internet rl6214 Jul 2012 #74

You have never been attacked by 2on2u Jul 2012 #2

Haaahaaa! Zing! Thread win. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #5

Sickness. Personally, if one wants something like, they have a problem and should be prohibited from Hoyt Jul 2012 #3

Why do cats lick their ass holes? upaloopa Jul 2012 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #6

It amazes me how people throw around "automatic" when discussing guns. clueless. Logical Jul 2012 #7

Like that nit-picky bullshit matters to the - what is it now, 70+? - people who are dead & injured. baldguy Jul 2012 #28

Yes it matters when people are saying shit that is not true. Like the GOP does all the time. Logical Jul 2012 #29

So, the occasional horrific civilian massacre is just the price we have to pay? baldguy Jul 2012 #36

Good luck banning everything but muzzle-loaders and revolvers. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #73

There's no such thing as "responsible gun ownership" baldguy Jul 2012 #78

OK I'll play....he had a semi-automatic with a 100 round clip that unloads in a couple of minutes. Avalux Jul 2012 #8

They keep calling it an assault weapon on my tv. DURHAM D Jul 2012 #12

Do you realize how big a 100 round clip HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #14

Forgive me posting what I was shown on ABC News. Avalux Jul 2012 #15

First of all, Im not a gun enthusiast. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #23

It still has a fairly high ROF nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #35

A semi-automatic rate of fire is based on how fast you can pull the trigger. NutmegYankee Jul 2012 #39

Would you agree at least 100 rpm? The full auto, not this one, nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #57

At first maybe. NutmegYankee Jul 2012 #65

He might get 100 rpm, if he was shooting randomly. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #66

As fast as can be aimed and the trigger pulled. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #54

The MAGAZINE they showed on ABC Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #27

What were ABC showing? HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #37

ABC went to a gunstore Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #42

Now you HAVE heard of such a thing.... Cronkite Jul 2012 #17

And you know the shooter had one? HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #20

Thanks for your post above.....ABC news stated the gun had a 100 round clip. Avalux Jul 2012 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #43

You wrote "Ive never heard of such a thing". How did you interpret my post as my "knowing"? Cronkite Jul 2012 #59

People were saying 100 round clip HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #34

Looks more useful for showing off than shooting. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #41

OK. Thanks. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #52

The M1 Garand is a Battle Rifle, full power 30-06 ammo. oneshooter Jul 2012 #67

Clip or mag, really doesn't change discussion about so-called "assault" weapons and popular lethal Hoyt Jul 2012 #68

By definition, any weapon is lethal. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #71

Or a clip. What matters is it's too easy for this to happen in this country. Hoyt Jul 2012 #72

Ive been in Latin American countries with gun ownership banned... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #76

Let's stop it now before the next 100 million are made. Or, you guys Hoyt Jul 2012 #80

Snail drum magazines have been around for some time ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #55

I hadnt heard of one until now. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #70

Uh... multiple news agencies are reporting that the police say that he had one of these on the scene lapfog_1 Jul 2012 #77

The police are also saying they don't know if the weapon is Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #82

I wonder if they will acknowledge this? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #9

Oh please. semi-automatic...go ahead and defend the weapon he used. Avalux Jul 2012 #13

Defend the weapon? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #18

I'm being emotional, which usually isn't my thing. Avalux Jul 2012 #19

Do you know what semi-automatic means in this context? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #21

Yes. It is self-loading, but the trigger must be pulled between each bullet. Avalux Jul 2012 #22

The news stated he was in the teaparty 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #25

I havent seen a statement about his clip size... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author GarroHorus Jul 2012 #46

Here you go: 100 round magazine found at the scene Avalux Jul 2012 #47

The AR 15 platform is one of the most popular rifles on the market today Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #30

So what time of game does one hunt with an AR 15? And what's a mini 14? n/t Avalux Jul 2012 #38

They are pretty useless for hunting. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #44

It's the most popular centerfire rifle in the USA. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #48

Can you tell me why? Avalux Jul 2012 #53

Versatile. Accurate. Reliable. Quick follow-up shots. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #61

Semi auto might be useful in a field or range. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #62

Wont penetrate a gator at 30 yds. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #56

Not if it's chambered in .223, certainly. An Armalite in .338 Federal Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #60

Depending on the cartridge the AR-15 in question is chambered for, Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #45

I don't hunt with them sarisataka Jul 2012 #49

.223/ 5.56 NATO is an excellent round for coyotes and other vermin Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #83

Just shows how lethal semi-autos are, yet the gun culture wants them everywhere. You can fire a Hoyt Jul 2012 #32

Would you have felt better if the CO shooter had a semi-automatic? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #10

No. DURHAM D Jul 2012 #16

Well... Marinedem Jul 2012 #11

JFK was shot with a bolt-action carbine. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #33

Class III is fun? ileus Jul 2012 #31

NO reason. elleng Jul 2012 #51

Maybe you should relocate to Jamaica where guns are totally banned Higgs boson Jul 2012 #64

and has one of the elleng Jul 2012 #75

You seem to be advocating both sides of the issue at once. Higgs boson Jul 2012 #85

Advocating both sides of the issue? elleng Jul 2012 #87

How about... ethereal1 Jul 2012 #79

Not logical. elleng Jul 2012 #84

HE DID NOT HAVE AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON. cliffordu Jul 2012 #86