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88. The Justice Democrats PAC is calling for the removal of Senator Franken

Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:11 AM

Nov 2017

and his replacement with Keith Ellison, in addition to supporting "progressive" Republican candidates for office.

https://now.justicedemocrats.com/petition/resign-franken

Justice Democrats© is a non-qualified, unauthorized, unaffiliated PAC founded in January 2017 by Cenk Uygur of The Young [sic] Turks, Kyle Kulinski of Secular Talk, and former leadership from the 2016 BS presidential campaign. The Middle-Aged Turk said in an interview about his new enterprise that if the Democratic Party resists the "need to change", "The Justice Democrats will make fighting them our No. 1 priority."

https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00630665/?tab=about-committee

https://mic.com/articles/166390/cenk-ugyur-bernie-sanders-staffers-team-up-to-take-over-the-democratic-party#.Rie7CRYYZ

Nina Turner of Our Revolution© said in an interview in October that Our Revolution© would have no problem endorsing "progressive" Republicans, so I assume she is on board with Justice Democrats support of Republican candidates Ronan and Brown.

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a13107999/nina-turner-womens-convention/

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Is Our Revolution trying to unseat Al Franken? [View all] yardwork Nov 2017 OP

These people are not our friends. Do not trust them. moda253 Nov 2017 #1

I don't trust them at all. That's why I'm asking. yardwork Nov 2017 #3

From whom was the email? jberryhill Nov 2017 #5

An old friend. yardwork Nov 2017 #9

Check this out: yardwork Nov 2017 #69

That is a different group seems like JonLP24 Nov 2017 #87

It's a very closely affiliated group with the same stated goals. yardwork Nov 2017 #96

Its NOT at the same group. This is painting with much too broad a brush. hedda_foil Nov 2017 #165

Joe Biden survived plagiarism; David Vitter survived being diapered by prostitutes; Demit Nov 2017 #123

We'll have to wait and see JonLP24 Nov 2017 #133

Sexual battery?? Demit Nov 2017 #139

Unwanted touching of private areas JonLP24 Nov 2017 #141

Sexual battery is a legal term. Demit Nov 2017 #160

Under Minnesota law, ass-grabbing isn't sexual battery. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #162

Lol, zactly. Demit Nov 2017 #167

Yes I understand the term JonLP24 Nov 2017 #168

Franken did not grab Tweeden. She exaggerated. The photo shows that. Demit Nov 2017 #173

I was talking more about Lindsay Menz JonLP24 Nov 2017 #175

Don't be silenced, Jon True Dough Nov 2017 #178

I appreciate your reasonable reply JonLP24 Nov 2017 #187

Who was talking about the unconscious one on the airplane? You, wasn't it? Demit Nov 2017 #179

I said her accusations were in addition to the booty grabbing JonLP24 Nov 2017 #184

A Republican women who voted for Trump even thought he "grabs them by the pussy" definitely womanofthehills Nov 2017 #224

bottom line ! CountAllVotes Nov 2017 #226

I TOTALLY AGREE! FarPoint Nov 2017 #58

They COULD be our friends if we stopped seeing them as our enemies. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #151

Youre right, our friends, if we do everything they want BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #183

When your "friend" wants it their way 100% of the time moda253 Nov 2017 #196

LOL! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #199

I do not trust this group Gothmog Nov 2017 #212

I unsubscribed to their lists a few weeks ago Tumbulu Nov 2017 #2

Well perhaps you might post the email and let us have a look jberryhill Nov 2017 #4

It's a private email. yardwork Nov 2017 #10

Odd. I am on their email distribution list and I didn't get that email. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #6

No he does not need to step aside. cwydro Nov 2017 #7

How many more women have to come forward before you "believe"? Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #8

If someone credible made an accusation, I might believe. cwydro Nov 2017 #12

That's pretty much the gop party line on Trump's accusers. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #16

Track record. tazkcmo Nov 2017 #27

Thank you. cwydro Nov 2017 #30

No need to be curious. They reveal who they are. Its clear. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #185

I think you are exactly right. cwydro Nov 2017 #189

Because the Mods don't do their Fucking job here! moda253 Nov 2017 #197

Well, there are no mods here anymore. cwydro Nov 2017 #198

How many claims of Clinton murders were conservatives Hortensis Nov 2017 #17

Exactly. cwydro Nov 2017 #33

how can you "come forward" if you are anonymous? ollie10 Nov 2017 #32

Unless the seat can be guaranteed to be replaced by a Democrat until 2020, under no circumstances do still_one Nov 2017 #36

I agree with all those points. yardwork Nov 2017 #42

Why would the Democratic governor appoint a republican? Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #77

As I understand it, the governor can appoint someone in the interim until a special election can be still_one Nov 2017 #97

well there are of course no guarantees in an election. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #102

No, that seat is up for re-election in 2020, and I do NOT want a special election before that, which still_one Nov 2017 #115

We barely won last time. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #148

I am really tired of those calling for his resignation without consideration for the risk that poses still_one Nov 2017 #171

There is no reason for Franken to resign...and it would be politically stupid to do so... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #253

Absolutely!!! still_one Nov 2017 #254

Ten days have passed since Tweeden's melodramatic revelation. Demit Nov 2017 #137

Only two have come forward - one who has acted similarly to Franken while on the USO tour.... George II Nov 2017 #146

If they are like the ones we have already...unlimited. I will never fall for a right wing bullshit Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #150

I think mostly it's a set up. We will have to wait and see. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #170

The email was not from Our Revolution. yardwork Nov 2017 #11

dept. of totally misleading ops. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #14

The suspicion at least is valid. Let's not forget the anger Hortensis Nov 2017 #21

Exactly why I'm asking here. yardwork Nov 2017 #24

Well, some who call themselves capital-P Progressives are innocently Hortensis Nov 2017 #25

Well said. NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #128

Multiplied by paid Republico-Koch and Russian agents. Hortensis Nov 2017 #136

I would argue it is more to normalize Moore karynnj Nov 2017 #186

Welll, the anti-Democrat left is is disgusted with and rejects Moore, Hortensis Nov 2017 #191

I was speaking of the first accuser for that karynnj Nov 2017 #193

Yes. I was very angry Biden's role in electing Clarence Thomas, Hortensis Nov 2017 #195

I do realize what you said about Clinton karynnj Nov 2017 #208

Exactly. After over 7 years of constant manufactured "scandals" Hortensis Nov 2017 #211

True, but Gore was hurt when GWB ran on bringing honor and decency karynnj Nov 2017 #217

Back to the subject. We have 48 Democrats in the Senate. Hortensis Nov 2017 #218

As Franken himself asked for, there shold be an investigation karynnj Nov 2017 #234

+ 1000 Wwcd Nov 2017 #214

Nonsense. My OP was quite clear. yardwork Nov 2017 #23

Your OP was seemingly saying that the email came from that organization. moriah Nov 2017 #29

Well, I responded immediately to those who asked. yardwork Nov 2017 #34

And that's appreciated, and it seems most get that now. moriah Nov 2017 #38

Actually, you're deflecting from the question, Hortensis Nov 2017 #41

No, because the OP casts suspicion on an entire group jberryhill Nov 2017 #61

Jberry, "Our Revolution" is a formal organization Hortensis Nov 2017 #74

Did you just hear a giant whooshing noise? jberryhill Nov 2017 #79

Deflecting back to the OP is reasonable. Hortensis Nov 2017 #86

Mostly ignoring what conservatives of done? JonLP24 Nov 2017 #107

No, he did and does not. Right now what the Republicans Hortensis Nov 2017 #119

Where would Obama be if Hillary Clinton didn't run against Obama? JonLP24 Nov 2017 #125

He'd be ex- President Obama right now. The notion that Hortensis Nov 2017 #181

Do you really need us to post the many, many YouTube videos Kentonio Nov 2017 #256

:) For all but one year of his time in congress, Bernie was Hortensis Nov 2017 #263

Whereas I (predictably) see it differently Kentonio Nov 2017 #264

That is indeed a different viewpoint. I won't ask you Hortensis Nov 2017 #265

That's ok, you can listen to whatever you like Kentonio Nov 2017 #266

Yeah, unlike figuring out how DU got attached to... moriah Nov 2017 #63

Calling total BS on this: KPN Nov 2017 #144

Call away. Bernie wasn't the least bit hypocritical about Hortensis Nov 2017 #194

Of course its a struggle for power. That happens within any organization. KPN Nov 2017 #204

Regarding that last, what I see as a huge flaw in the Hortensis Nov 2017 #210

Well, I guess a lot of folks disagree with you about KPN Nov 2017 #236

How can an OP asking a question be "misleading"? Can you elaborate? George II Nov 2017 #45

I believe people felt it was misleading... moriah Nov 2017 #68

I dunno ask all the people piling on to "Our Revolution" for something it seems they didn't do. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #81

You're the one who originally called it misleading, now you say "I dunno"? George II Nov 2017 #101

Ate you having a problem finding all the posts attacking Our Revolution for something the didn't do? Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #104

Two separate issues: the "attacks" on Our Revolution and you calling the OP misleading. George II Nov 2017 #118

No we will not replace Franken and give the GOP what they want. It will never end...this is Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #159

We need to not be partisan hypocrites on this issue. LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #182

Did you go to the site you linked to and read their message. Control-Z Nov 2017 #233

Yes, I did. yardwork Nov 2017 #238

Has the name of a "viable replacement" been floated? yardwork Nov 2017 #13

There are a lot. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #15

He is invaluable on the Judiciary Committee riverwalker Nov 2017 #19

Well I guess he shouldn't have been such a creep. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #89

Same here JonLP24 Nov 2017 #109

Are you counting Melanie Morgan as the 5th woman? She's another exaggerator. Demit Nov 2017 #149

He took hundreds of pictures...so I don't see a denail would work. Too bad some fall for dirty Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #153

Like this one: yardwork Nov 2017 #70

There is no need for him to step down at this point- but he should consider not running again Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #26

No, you don't cave to bullies...the GOP doesn't get to choose our candidates period. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #161

Of corse they dont get to choose Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #172

We have a better chance with Franken if we support him...and could lose many seats as the GOP ramp Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #239

Ahhhh No!!! FarPoint Nov 2017 #73

Nonsense.... pangaia Nov 2017 #111

Republicans will try their best to unseat as many Ds as possible midterms-they'll use/abuse anything Sunlei Nov 2017 #18

For sure. LisaL Nov 2017 #20

Franken's not going anywhere. His detractors can take a flying leap. nt oasis Nov 2017 #22

This. cwydro Nov 2017 #35

Agreed! pandr32 Nov 2017 #138

Is he considered too progressive? left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #28

You have it wrong but I'd be curious of the motivation of someone who told you that. SharonClark Nov 2017 #219

I thought I read it here on DU? left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #230

Dont believe everything you read at DU emulatorloo Nov 2017 #247

Copy and paste the email GaryCnf Nov 2017 #31

All this defensiveness and attempts to bully are making me more suspicious. yardwork Nov 2017 #37

Perhaps my distance from even knowing who you're talking about.. moriah Nov 2017 #43

What? Maybe you should google Our Revolution before you accuse people of trolling. yardwork Nov 2017 #48

As I said, I meant it in the "make people think" sense. moriah Nov 2017 #54

Ok. I'm not trolling or trying to make a point. yardwork Nov 2017 #59

I support Franken 100% GaryCnf Nov 2017 #44

Republican don't defeat us we defeat ourselves delisen Nov 2017 #82

Hear! Hear! Redux solara Nov 2017 #90

Hear! Hear! solara Nov 2017 #83

Exactly why I'm asking what the hell is going on. yardwork Nov 2017 #85

This is how you ask what the hell is going on? solara Nov 2017 #92

I think you and I are in agreement. yardwork Nov 2017 #95

Not if calling for Franken to step down is your response solara Nov 2017 #100

You are completely missing the point of my OP. I agree with you! yardwork Nov 2017 #132

Because all you posted was the petition to replace Franken solara Nov 2017 #177

Did you read my OP? Have you read the whole thread? yardwork Nov 2017 #209

Ok, what about this? yardwork Nov 2017 #71

Looks like GaryCnf Nov 2017 #120

Does anyone GaryCnf Nov 2017 #39

Some Justice "Democrats" are actually Republican candidates lapucelle Nov 2017 #176

Oh, Please. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #40

Exactly GaryCnf Nov 2017 #46

No way am I going to post a private email on the internet, redacted or not. yardwork Nov 2017 #47

It sounds like the person is a Republican JonLP24 Nov 2017 #49

He considers himself to be ultra-left. yardwork Nov 2017 #50

None of these things I would consider left at all JonLP24 Nov 2017 #51

I agree. He's become a real jerk. yardwork Nov 2017 #62

Do you need an intervention so you don"t take seriously what your jerk of a friend says to you? SharonClark Nov 2017 #222

One can consider themselves anything...but if they prefer Republicans, they are Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #154

Hes an asshole. RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #169

He sounds completely made up melman Nov 2017 #188

That person is, by definition, not a progressive. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #52

All this makes me wonder what you are up to, having read this thread. OnDoutside Nov 2017 #53

Fantasy GaryCnf Nov 2017 #55

And every word is true. That's how messed up our country is now. yardwork Nov 2017 #57

People who GaryCnf Nov 2017 #67

Your friend decided to write you about Al Franken? jberryhill Nov 2017 #60

He writes often, and given the general context of his writings... yardwork Nov 2017 #65

WTF that's ridiculous njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #76

Isn't it!? I wish I were making it up. yardwork Nov 2017 #78

Your friend is all mixed up njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #229

Ha melman Nov 2017 #190

Lololol pangaia Nov 2017 #201

Your friend does not sound like a Dem or a progressive. He's messing with you. SharonClark Nov 2017 #220

'our revolution' is so telling... the OUR part is all about... samnsara Nov 2017 #56

I got 500 emails saying something to the contrary. David__77 Nov 2017 #64

I got emails from 100 people, but they were better people than the ones who sent yours jberryhill Nov 2017 #66

And I just got this in response to this thread: yardwork Nov 2017 #72

Thank you for sharing. David__77 Nov 2017 #75

"Justice Democrats" aren't doing us any favors. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #91

Justice Democrats are not Democrats...or even progressive. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #155

So it sounds like your friend made an assertion without any evidence... brooklynite Nov 2017 #80

What? Are you responding to the wrong thread? yardwork Nov 2017 #84

Your quote: "I received an email that made me wonder if the Our Revolution people are trying... brooklynite Nov 2017 #103

Where is that an assertion? yardwork Nov 2017 #134

Im just asking questions! aidbo Nov 2017 #223

The Justice Democrats PAC is calling for the removal of Senator Franken lapucelle Nov 2017 #88

I think the two groups are closely affiliated. I have my answer. yardwork Nov 2017 #93

+1 MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #106

I'll send them an email letting them know what I think about replacing Franken. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #94

I hate that they dragged Keith Ellison's name into their scheme. lapucelle Nov 2017 #99

Here's the email I just sent to Justice Democrats: The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #117

Wow...sing it sister (or brother)! lapucelle Nov 2017 #122

Great letter! mcar Nov 2017 #130

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Nov 2017 #143

Excellent! radical noodle Nov 2017 #206

Ellison is a good Democrat, but that isn't the issue, they are grouping Franken in with Moore, Trump still_one Nov 2017 #142

This is a Young Turk group and Ellison has zero to do with them. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #163

So having failed to tar Our Revolution the first go 'round Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #98

Our Revolution tarred itself when it expressed an willingness to embrace Republican candidates. lapucelle Nov 2017 #105

like I said: the point here is "bash the left, ass-grabbery be damned". Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #108

Those who support, endorse, and run Republican and/or Green candidates lapucelle Nov 2017 #110

No; it's a matter of understanding that The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #127

If the left doesn't support Democrats but helps elect Republicans...they can not be considered left. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #166

Our revolution said they would support GOP types...and will support the so Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #164

thanks for posting this, lapucelle. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #126

Screw them!!! still_one Nov 2017 #135

That is just sick and stupid as hell. R B Garr Nov 2017 #216

Our Revolution was founded by Sanders and Turner. Justice Democrats was founded by.... George II Nov 2017 #242

I don't know if there's any relationship between Our Revolution and "Justice Democrats", or.... George II Nov 2017 #112

Cenk? That explains it all. He's a scumbag. grossproffit Nov 2017 #113

I wonder who designed their creepy logo. lapucelle Nov 2017 #180

That looks very reminiscent of russian constructivist typography to me. Demit Nov 2017 #192

I have a feeling that the two groups lapucelle Nov 2017 #114

Which is why it only has 7000 signatures GaryCnf Nov 2017 #124

Two of the four (Cenk being the lynch pin) founders were high level Sanders staffers. George II Nov 2017 #129

Lol GaryCnf Nov 2017 #140

This isn't a Clinton/Sanders discussion, why bring up Clinton at all? The sub-thread is about.... George II Nov 2017 #156

Won't be sucked into actively refighting the primary GaryCnf Nov 2017 #200

You already did, thank you. George II Nov 2017 #205

Justice Dems is a TYT's associated project Starry Messenger Nov 2017 #116

Isn't TYT similar to RToday? Wwcd Nov 2017 #215

a guy who denies the armenian genocide wants to tell others about justice JI7 Nov 2017 #232

WOW, they are trying to replace him with Keith Ellison?!! R B Garr Nov 2017 #121

"Justice Democrats?" DFW Nov 2017 #131

Evidemment.... lapucelle Nov 2017 #152

WTF? KPN Nov 2017 #145

According to their leader Nina Turner lapucelle Nov 2017 #158

Kind of off the topic of the OP, but I'll play along. Can you provide a citation re: Nina Turner? KPN Nov 2017 #202

Her October interview to Cosmo Magazine. lapucelle Nov 2017 #203

My point made ... "for the sake of argument". KPN Nov 2017 #207

Our Revolution is in the market for Republicans to endorse and lapucelle Nov 2017 #221

Kudos Lapucelle. Well stated & spot on. Wwcd Nov 2017 #227

Our Revolution is in the market for Republicans to endorse? KPN Nov 2017 #235

According to Nina Turner, Our Revolution is open to endorsing Republicans. lapucelle Nov 2017 #240

OK. Got it. One county OR group in New Jersey endorsed the Green Party ticket KPN Nov 2017 #243

I'm glad people are finally understanding lapucelle Nov 2017 #244

Good one! KPN Nov 2017 #248

Here's some information about Ohio Republican/Justice Democrat Sam Ronan lapucelle Nov 2017 #241

Ronan only last week switched to R. KPN Nov 2017 #245

What a cynical opportunist Republican Ronan must be. lapucelle Nov 2017 #246

I don't know about that. KPN Nov 2017 #249

Context... lapucelle Nov 2017 #250

++++++++++ JHan Nov 2017 #252

Consider if they get rid of Franken...they also attacked Kamela Harris...they are clearing the Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #147

Generally not a fan of zero tolerance on many issues elfin Nov 2017 #157

I get Our Revolution e-mails and haven't seen anything like it mvd Nov 2017 #174

Agreed. It would be counterproductive to raisiing funds for any "progressive" Republicans lapucelle Nov 2017 #225

Of course they are. Franken isn't the only one they're after, its been their mission all along Wwcd Nov 2017 #213

This is all nonsense melman Nov 2017 #228

Yup. That's what it looks like. Control-Z Nov 2017 #231

They actually spell it out. They make no bones about it. But people will still deny it. kcr Nov 2017 #237

Why would we deny it? Kentonio Nov 2017 #255

I don't know. You tell me. kcr Nov 2017 #257

I'm certainly not trying to get Republicans elected. Kentonio Nov 2017 #258

I support getting progressives elected kcr Nov 2017 #259

How do you know? Did you ask her? Kentonio Nov 2017 #260

I realize that this is an issue of different strategy. kcr Nov 2017 #261

But you're already going into that assuming ill intent Kentonio Nov 2017 #262

I haven't received any such emails and I'm an Our Revolution member. LongTomH Nov 2017 #251