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sharedvalues

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32. Also
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:45 PM
Nov 2017

If you wanted a more philosophical response, here’s my take on your direct question:

“Truth” or “fact” in public debate is a real concept. And it comes from consensus. There is a truth about climate change, because a large majority of scientists and informed citizens agree.

Truth is not available on every topic — some topics are not resolved. An example is whether free college is a good idea economically. That issue can have multiple sides.

Our current democratic crisis has been created in part by the GOP trying to damage truth. They do this by trying to muddy the waters, to create fake “controversy” on issues where facts exist. Climate change is a good example. And the GOP creates doubt by manipulating our media.

The most important thing the media can do is report facts, where they are available. The tax cut bill is a disaster for the middle class. The healthcare bill is really a big tax cut for billionaires. Those are facts. When Toomey or Price lies on TV about those topics, those guys are harming America to help billionaires. They know if they told the truth their terrible policies would be rejected. So they lie. And they do it because the media repeats their lies. If the media reported facts on topics with clear truths like this, our healthcare would be protected and this tax cut bill would be off the table.

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Actually, no . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Nov 2017 #1
You're probably right, but maxrandb Nov 2017 #3
I take your point . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Nov 2017 #5
Yes. OP is right. Media should report facts, not opinion sharedvalues Nov 2017 #11
I'm afraid we'll have to disagree, then . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Nov 2017 #13
Post gets it right. Lakoff puts it best sharedvalues Nov 2017 #17
All networks and MSM in grneral should Perseus Nov 2017 #38
If something is either true or not they should report on that JonLP24 Nov 2017 #20
Yes, key point! sharedvalues Nov 2017 #33
You are so right. Thank you. sharedvalues Nov 2017 #12
What they need to avoid is the continued publicity they give Bannon Perseus Nov 2017 #37
These are official presidential records The Blue Flower Nov 2017 #2
Insanity and racism deserves no coverage unless condemned simultaneously President or pauper. Fred Sanders Nov 2017 #29
They are doing their "fucking job"... DonViejo Nov 2017 #4
Yes, post is right on. Do not need to report lies. sharedvalues Nov 2017 #10
You couldn't be more wrong . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Nov 2017 #14
Post is right. And this is a key point about America sharedvalues Nov 2017 #18
Faux News salutes you! Fred Sanders Nov 2017 #30
You and I and everyone at DU may be able to discern fact from fiction Ligyron Nov 2017 #40
Who do you recommend sit in judgement of this President's lies?... DonViejo Nov 2017 #19
Fact check them all JonLP24 Nov 2017 #21
Yes. Journalistic consensus shows truth. sharedvalues Nov 2017 #31
Also sharedvalues Nov 2017 #32
I'll let you know the next time a Democratic President maxrandb Nov 2017 #35
Fine! Keep documentation of his tweets! tenderfoot Nov 2017 #22
I've read and, in many cases posted, articles about all of the news articles you DonViejo Nov 2017 #24
Yes. He tweets are being documented... tenderfoot Nov 2017 #25
There's a benefit to the media reporting on his tweets... DonViejo Nov 2017 #28
Reporting lies hurts all of us. sharedvalues Nov 2017 #34
You're preaching to the choir... DonViejo Nov 2017 #39
There was a shortlived Twitter account that reformatted Trump's tweets as official WH statements: Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #6
report them, fine. but mopinko Nov 2017 #7
Watch what they do! Dont report what they say! sharedvalues Nov 2017 #36
His idiocy must be reported. dalton99a Nov 2017 #8
Yes!! Yes! Lies should be ignored sharedvalues Nov 2017 #9
Pure unadulterated BS. DonViejo Nov 2017 #15
Columbia Journalism Review says media should report facts sharedvalues Nov 2017 #43
No, what is a "relic" from the past is the arcane notion . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Nov 2017 #16
If they are going to report on "facts" they should be reporting all the facts JonLP24 Nov 2017 #23
If they didn't report them we wouldn't doc03 Nov 2017 #26
Or, at least, call it for what it is: bullshit. Beartracks Nov 2017 #27
Call a LIE a LIE, every time! Martin Eden Nov 2017 #42
Or better yet, report that the President is tweeting BULLSHIT. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #41
evidence our so-called "president" is off the rails WILL BE REPORTED Skittles Nov 2017 #44
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