Old DU may recall I was part of an SNL circle & I'm about to say something (socially impolite

[Ms. Toad]

17. The ranks of sexual harassers and abusers are filled

with men whose peers, and even female coworkers, are absolutely certain that they would never intentionally harass or abuse anyone.

Just as a smile on one's face at the time the contact is occurring, scantily clad photos of the victim elsewhere, a victim with a robust sex life, etc. say nothing about whether the contact occurred or was consensual, the accused's interactions with anyone but the victim are not relevant as to whether he engaged in such nonconsensual contact.

As to that question, both the women's accounts - and Franken's acknowledgement and apology - carry more weight than peers who can't imagine that he did, as he acknowledges he did, cross the line.

That said, I am NOT calling for him to resign. I am impressed with how he has handled the accusations. I just wish people would follow his lead and stop trying to prove by character assassination (of the victims) or by elevating to a pedestal (the accused) that both parties are lying when they allege - and acknowledge - that Franken crossed the line.