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karynnj

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68. I am not misinterpreting, I am disagreeing with your opinion

Sun Nov 26, 2017, 11:38 PM

Nov 2017

Clinton's campaign brought a lot of what you think unfair coverage on themselves. She created the email problem and made it worse by repeatedly telling not getting the whole story out. From the stolen emails, one of the people workingwith Podesta, Neera Tandem (?), was more negative on both what she did and how the campaign handled it than most media people.

As to Trump, the WP and NYT covered everything from his taxes that they could get, his racist actions with apartment sales, that his dad was arrested at a KKK rally, that he was a troubled teen sent to military school to try to fix him, his casinos going into bankruptcy, his not paying for work he contracted that was done etc.

As you said of the South, Trump voters KNEW what they were voting for.

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Joe Biden and Michele Obama are the most popular politicians in America (KOS diary with links) [View all] stevenleser Nov 2017 OP

What qualifies Michelle Obama, who has never actually run for elective office, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #1

None of the three are my first choice. The polls are in agreement however stevenleser Nov 2017 #2

Michelle Obama is actually not a politician. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #3

Neither was the Orange Toxin treestar Nov 2017 #4

An excellent observation. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #5

Sounds like youre annoyed. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #7

Not really. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #9

No shit. Thanks for saying it Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #79

Remember that Harvard-Harris poll that everyone was talking about a little while ago? George II Nov 2017 #38

I saw it. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #43

But that poll did the same thing you're complaining about, rating "politicians".... George II Nov 2017 #44

Simply pointing out the obvious. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #45

Not so much 'obvious', as merely 'inferred'. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #88

Yeah but, I mean yeah sure I know and yeah but, but dont you see? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #80

"Sanders inspired enthusiasm in much the same way as Barack Obama did.."? Really? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #25

While Sanders needs to get more support from people of color karynnj Nov 2017 #30

Excellent observations. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #42

From what we know, Sanders participated in one demonstration during a 2-year long effort.... George II Nov 2017 #46

Not true - he took a year off school and worked on the effort karynnj Nov 2017 #58

Why are you stuck on 40 years ago? Not everything R B Garr Nov 2017 #75

I am NOT stuck on something hat happened 40 years ago, like you I am speaking of what karynnj Nov 2017 #78

Quit trying to rewrite history. Whatever incident you are referring to is still R B Garr Nov 2017 #86

No that is YOU are rewriting karynnj Nov 2017 #89

What you write does not represent reality and are actually just tangents R B Garr Nov 2017 #90

I have never visited JPR and you do not control what reality is karynnj Nov 2017 #91

This denial is no longer tolerable. How absurd and R B Garr Nov 2017 #92

You are the one who is completely absurd karynnj Nov 2017 #94

This backpedaling is truly absurd. Trying to distort what he R B Garr Nov 2017 #97

This is quite an amusing stretch of the imagination. Bernie was the R B Garr Nov 2017 #47

He did get some passes because he was never the frontrunner karynnj Nov 2017 #57

Weren't those pictures from 40 years ago? This sounds like more of the myth that R B Garr Nov 2017 #59

It was not a myth. It was part of his life karynnj Nov 2017 #64

Did you deliberately misinterpret?? I said the myth R B Garr Nov 2017 #66

I am not misinterpreting, I am disagreeing with your opinion karynnj Nov 2017 #68

Clinton was treated horribly by the press while Bernie R B Garr Nov 2017 #69

Are you speaking of his comments on Clinton being close to Wall Street? karynnj Nov 2017 #73

He was asked to name any benefits Wall Street R B Garr Nov 2017 #74

Bernie was repeatedly called on by the media to release his taxes for the entire period karynnj Nov 2017 #76

You don't get to rewrite history. His whole attack was that Wall Street was R B Garr Nov 2017 #84

Nothing you said changes how we select a nominee. You have to win in the South as well. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #70

A nominee who won all the non south states would win karynnj Nov 2017 #72

The path to a pearly white victory. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #85

We're talking about "inspiration". That didn't happen in the process by which we currently choose.. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #93

I know that - and I was countering what was stated generically - that you could not karynnj Nov 2017 #95

Obama didn't win "everywhere", but he at least kept it competitive. He won Southern primaries. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #96

I did not say in exactly the same way, or at the same level. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #40

Au Contraire. She got 3+ mil more votes than her primary opponent, and nearly all the SD's. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #71

I'd guess it's because she's a Democrat, and has fulfilled many political achievements LanternWaste Nov 2017 #87

oh no bernie,,,,,,,, stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #6

Giving a speech at a political convention makes one a "politician"? oasis Nov 2017 #8

It is necessary to show that Sanders is not the most popular politician in the US. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #11

I'm pretty sure Michele Obama would object to being used oasis Nov 2017 #21

Or to being framed as a Democratic politician for that matter. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #41

How do you feel about that Harvard-Harris poll that has been posted on DU several times? George II Nov 2017 #35

OH wait, I better delete that, forgot where i was Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #81

If so, then Tiffany Trump is a politician now. nt tblue37 Nov 2017 #15

I would happily vote for Michelle Obama for president nt msongs Nov 2017 #10

Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2017 #12

Michelle Obama isn't even a politician, so how can she be "one of the most popular?" shanny Nov 2017 #13

Michelle is not a politician. nt tblue37 Nov 2017 #14

This Daily Kos diary is from August oberliner Nov 2017 #16

Love em. applegrove Nov 2017 #17

Michelle Obama is not a politician. Calling her that PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #18

Kick nt stevenleser Nov 2017 #19

This popularity thing is easy for me, you have a D after your name? You are popular with me! Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #82

K & keyboardless R ucrdem Nov 2017 #20

Michelle Obama is not a politician Lil Missy Nov 2017 #22

And Bernie is not a Democrat. murielm99 Nov 2017 #23

That be true! justhanginon Nov 2017 #24

True. He's only a democrat. shanny Nov 2017 #28

Yeppers Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #83

I will translate this poll... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #26

Michelle Obama is NOT a politician Raine Nov 2017 #27

Michelle Obama is not a politician. If she is considered one, think of the others....... WinkyDink Nov 2017 #29

Your title of the thread is a lie Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #31

K&R Gothmog Nov 2017 #32

This is an example of fake news. HerbChestnut Nov 2017 #33

If it were fake it would have been posted a few dozen times already ucrdem Nov 2017 #36

LOL, I see what you did there! R B Garr Nov 2017 #49

Looks like Joe and Michelle are also winning in the rec department. ucrdem Nov 2017 #56

Yes, it's refreshing to see! R B Garr Nov 2017 #61

Say it ain't so steven! George II Nov 2017 #34

I know right? stevenleser Nov 2017 #54

No surprises there. No Independent is going to poll above an actual Democrat for 2020. MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #37

Neither of whom actually any office right now. alarimer Nov 2017 #39

Thanks for this, steve. It continues to be true that Sanders was never attacked R B Garr Nov 2017 #48

This entire post is a lie oberliner Nov 2017 #50

But it's what people want to hear, so...n/t HerbChestnut Nov 2017 #67

Michelle is not and never has been a politician nor I imagine will ever be beachbum bob Nov 2017 #51

Love this observation! Maxine Waters is the true progressive -- R B Garr Nov 2017 #52

The entire diary has great observations, but the objections posted here stevenleser Nov 2017 #55

They are indeed comedy gold. It's good to see the correction about R B Garr Nov 2017 #60

Michele is a politician? cwydro Nov 2017 #53

Everyone keeps saying Bernie is the most popular politician in America TreeStarsForever Nov 2017 #62

I don't think the article you cite refers to Biden or Michelle Obama as politicians. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #63

Love it. ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #65

Where's Hillary? shanny Nov 2017 #77